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Geth Massredux
Defensores Doctrina
348
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:38:00 -
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So it has a sidearm... Now we are talking, combat logi anybody? anybody? Not any other logi, because only the Amarr Logi- proto has a sidearm....
Let me know how is ok,, ok thanks...
- Geth |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1680
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:40:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:So it has a sidearm... Now we are talking, combat logi anybody? anybody? Not any other logi, because only the Amarr Logi- proto has a sidearm....
Let me know how is ok,, ok thanks...
- Geth
I don't have it. My opinion is that the side arm is NOT worth lost slots. |
Geth Massredux
Defensores Doctrina
348
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:42:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Geth Massredux wrote:So it has a sidearm... Now we are talking, combat logi anybody? anybody? Not any other logi, because only the Amarr Logi- proto has a sidearm....
Let me know how is ok,, ok thanks...
- Geth I don't have it. My opinion is that the side arm is NOT worth lost slots. Well yea, I understand that, it sucks with the 3 and 3 high and low, but what if you are shooting, you have to reload, thats the end of your logi, that goes for all other logi's, thats why im trying to see is it worth it at all, after I get my respec |
ShwerShwerShwer
The Marching Mercs General Tso's Alliance
146
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:43:00 -
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I've got the advanced right now and love it. Can't wait for proto with the sidearm |
copy left
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
189
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:47:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:So it has a sidearm... Now we are talking, combat logi anybody? anybody? Not any other logi, because only the Amarr Logi- proto has a sidearm....
Let me know how is ok,, ok thanks...
- Geth
Its not worth it. I use it and if you want to use a side arm, just use a Amarr medium suit.
Amarr logi is just too slow to warrant any use. |
Terarrim
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
24
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Posted - 2013.05.18 22:20:00 -
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As an Amarr fanatic I have gone Amarr Logi Bro Proto (female suit).
First off looks wise the Amarr logi is one of the best looking suits in the whole game imo and the female suit the best of the best it has minimal gold on the uniform just enough to highlight, deep black and cool red eyes!
The serious bit :P
Ok bear in mind these opinions are based on me having nearly 12 mill sp with the following skills.
Engineering 4 Electronics 4 Shields 5 Armour 3 Repper 3 Scrambler rifle prof 2 Grenade 3 Nano 4
(the main skill highlights).
Advantages of the Suit:
It is a very balanced suit Shield / Armour tanking meaning that your not paricularly vunrable to any weapon type.
The suit has a very fast recharge delay time (6/5 secs) and with the armour repping capabilies that the logi suit gives you this is
has probably one lowest downtimes to full health of any suit in the game.
The base health stats of the suit are also very good meaning that this reinforces any extra shields or armour making it a durable suit.
The side arm allows you extreem flexibilty in combat. For example specing into lazer is not a problem as you can spec into SMG for CQC.
Further to the last point the side arm also allows a true anti AV fit as it allows you to spec into swarms for example without sacrificing personal defence when the need arises. Combined with the 3 slots a specalist AV logi with remote explosives, passives even the flaylock pistol you could probably have the most flexibale medium AV suit in the game.
If specalising in lazer or scramblers then it will cost allot less sp to take advantage of the Amarr assault ablities later on if you so chose.
This suit shines in defensive combat with high hit point buffer and fast hp regeneration. It makes excellent support for heavies for repping and nano hives and added dps.
Disadvantages:
Biggest disadvantage and its a pretty serious one is the low PG on this suit. I have no idea why but it has 3 lower base PG than the Amarr Assault equivilant. This means your never going to be able to fully utilise this suit to its maximum potential. Your going to need one of those specalist low slots for a complex CPu to PG convertor (you get loads of CPU).
Not only does this have an affect on having to make sacrfices to your equipment and or weaponry (you will have to have several advanced or lower weapon and / or equipment in combination with proto weapon / gear.
This also means you cant take advantage of the suits biggest advantage which is the self armour repping. You will probably be forced to comprimise with an advanced plate a complex repper and complex PG in the low slots nothing else really makes any sense.
Due to only 3 high slots and base hps on shields of 120 you will probably be running all shields rather than complex damage mods in order to make up for the lack of low slots for armour.
Bar the heavys this is one of the slowest suits in the game therefore, unless you want to move as fast as a heavy your going to have to run an advanced plate as this gives you a good hp boost to your armour without totally sacrficing speed and mobility and to conserve the precious PG for the complex repper and equipment / weapons.
Due to the speed disadvantage these logi's are not suited to fast run and gun offensive play where you need ot be mobile. They are better at supporting pushes due to the inablity to keep up with the faster assault suits and logi's.
In short:
If you want a fast run and gun with lots of equipment slots look elswhere.
If you want the ultimate AV specalist then chose this class
If you want an excellent defensive support all rounder than can take some punishment its also a very good choice.
While you can become a good killer with this logi due to its good defences your better off fighting with a group and adding a diffrent type of dps to your group e.g. lazer or MD, scrambler etc. Your never going to be the best offensive guy because you cant really afford to stack complex mods due to slow speed etc.
(Any chance you can put in player review subimitted in the topic for those who are intrested OP? thanks.) |
Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
377
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Posted - 2013.05.18 22:57:00 -
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Terarrim, you get a like. +1. Thanks for taking the time to share that. |
I-Shayz-I
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
240
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Posted - 2013.05.18 23:10:00 -
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I was going to go Amarr Proto but realized that the armor repair bonus only is worthwhile if you run all armor repairs in the low slots.
So I went Minmatar logistics instead. Not only do I get an additional low slot to fit a complex armor repair module that negates the bonus that the amarr suit has, but I can fit one more equipment and another high slot module. Top it off with being the fastest logistics, and the fastest hacker, the choice was obvious.
The obvious downside to using the proto logistics is that you're not combat oriented, but I can still do really well with 393 shield, 427 armor, 11.25 armor repair, 6.31 sprint speed, and a basic Scrambler Rifle. The rest of my pg/cpu is used for basic triage equipment, a proto repair tool, and a drop uplink. |
Terarrim
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
26
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Posted - 2013.05.18 23:57:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I was going to go Amarr Proto but realized that the armor repair bonus only is worthwhile if you run all armor repairs in the low slots.
So I went Minmatar logistics instead. Not only do I get an additional low slot to fit a complex armor repair module that negates the bonus that the amarr suit has, but I can fit one more equipment and another high slot module. Top it off with being the fastest logistics, and the fastest hacker, the choice was obvious.
The obvious downside to using the proto logistics is that you're not combat oriented, but I can still do really well with 393 shield, 427 armor, 11.25 armor repair, 6.31 sprint speed, and a basic Scrambler Rifle. The rest of my pg/cpu is used for basic triage equipment, a proto repair tool, and a drop uplink.
I did some calculations and based on advanced armour I will have 372 shields and 321 armour with sprint speed of 6.37 with the specs into putting up the stamina and sprint speed up by 5 percent. I could take the armour up to 350 if I wanted to be slower than max speed. armour repair would be around the 14 mark. I estemate I could have a proto weapon and advanced sidearm, proto repair with advanced or basic injector and advance hive and proto grens. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
263
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Posted - 2013.05.19 01:02:00 -
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The Amarr logi has the same number of Module slots as an assault, but less hp, and less PG. It's kinda crap. Pick another logi unless they balance it and give at least another slot and fix the fittings being worse than the assault. |
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Geth Massredux
Defensores Doctrina
350
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:39:00 -
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Terarrim wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:I was going to go Amarr Proto but realized that the armor repair bonus only is worthwhile if you run all armor repairs in the low slots.
So I went Minmatar logistics instead. Not only do I get an additional low slot to fit a complex armor repair module that negates the bonus that the amarr suit has, but I can fit one more equipment and another high slot module. Top it off with being the fastest logistics, and the fastest hacker, the choice was obvious.
The obvious downside to using the proto logistics is that you're not combat oriented, but I can still do really well with 393 shield, 427 armor, 11.25 armor repair, 6.31 sprint speed, and a basic Scrambler Rifle. The rest of my pg/cpu is used for basic triage equipment, a proto repair tool, and a drop uplink. I did some calculations and based on advanced armour I will have 372 shields and 321 armour with sprint speed of 6.37 with the specs into putting up the stamina and sprint speed up by 5 percent. I could take the armour up to 350 if I wanted to be slower than max speed. armour repair would be around the 14 mark. I estemate I could have a proto weapon and advanced sidearm, proto repair with advanced or basic injector and advance hive and proto grens. Thanks Terarrim for the info.... Got any tips on a more assault runner going combat logi....
My whole goal is respec- go into combat amarr logi... Proto SCR, proto nanohives and rep tool. With core dropsuit filled kinda... Im good now, running amarr assault, 400+ shield, with 400+ armor. But going assault to supportive combat logi...
I like to support the team, but one equipment slot doesnt work... So thats why I want proto logi, sidearm, and in and out support, combat etc |
Terarrim
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
33
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:26:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:Terarrim wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:I was going to go Amarr Proto but realized that the armor repair bonus only is worthwhile if you run all armor repairs in the low slots.
So I went Minmatar logistics instead. Not only do I get an additional low slot to fit a complex armor repair module that negates the bonus that the amarr suit has, but I can fit one more equipment and another high slot module. Top it off with being the fastest logistics, and the fastest hacker, the choice was obvious.
The obvious downside to using the proto logistics is that you're not combat oriented, but I can still do really well with 393 shield, 427 armor, 11.25 armor repair, 6.31 sprint speed, and a basic Scrambler Rifle. The rest of my pg/cpu is used for basic triage equipment, a proto repair tool, and a drop uplink. I did some calculations and based on advanced armour I will have 372 shields and 321 armour with sprint speed of 6.37 with the specs into putting up the stamina and sprint speed up by 5 percent. I could take the armour up to 350 if I wanted to be slower than max speed. armour repair would be around the 14 mark. I estemate I could have a proto weapon and advanced sidearm, proto repair with advanced or basic injector and advance hive and proto grens. Thanks Terarrim for the info.... Got any tips on a more assault runner going combat logi.... My whole goal is respec- go into combat amarr logi... Proto SCR, proto nanohives and rep tool. With core dropsuit filled kinda... Im good now, running amarr assault, 400+ shield, with 400+ armor. But going assault to supportive combat logi... I like to support the team, but one equipment slot doesnt work... So thats why I want proto logi, sidearm, and in and out support, combat etc
Your going to have less shields and less armour due to the lack of PG and less of a starting shield buff. You will be able to have a proto weapon, proto grens 1 proto repper then the sidearm nano hives and injectors will probably have to be advanced or less just not enough PG on the suit even wilh a complex PG mod in a low slot. |
Raze galder
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
39
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:30:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:So it has a sidearm... Now we are talking, combat logi anybody? anybody? Not any other logi, because only the Amarr Logi- proto has a sidearm....
Let me know how is ok,, ok thanks...
- Geth That's what i always thought. They were more battle oriented logis were the others where more support. |
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