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Leovarian L Lavitz
Murder Taxi Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:02:00 -
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Duvolle Tactical assault rifle dps: 941 80GJ ION Cannon dps: 973 Forge gun dps: 342 HMG dps: 466 Sniper rifle dps: 158.3
Fitting: Duvolle TAR: 90 CPU, 13 PG 80 GJ ION Cannon: 48 CPU, 1210 PG
I'd like to remove my turrets and have duvolle TARs put in their places, pls |
ZDub 303
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
27
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:04:00 -
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its popular cause its the only weapon right now with a halfway realistic range. |
Dazereth the 2nd
Stoned Kloned Killers
11
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:07:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:its popular cause its the only weapon right now with a halfway realistic range. ^This |
Protoman Is God
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
158
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:07:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:its popular cause its the only weapon right now with a halfway realistic range.
DING DING DING |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Murder Taxi Inc.
292
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:09:00 -
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Protoman Is God wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:its popular cause its the only weapon right now with a halfway realistic range. DING DING DING
Buff everything!
T.T |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
487
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:09:00 -
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wait..is that duvolle dmg legit? 2 shot a lav... |
Takron Nistrom
eHarmony Inc. Phobia.
88
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:11:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Duvolle Tactical assault rifle dps: 941 80GJ ION Cannon dps: 973 Forge gun dps: 342 HMG dps: 466 Sniper rifle dps: 158.3
Fitting: Duvolle TAR: 90 CPU, 13 PG 80 GJ ION Cannon: 48 CPU, 1210 PG
I'd like to remove my turrets and have duvolle TARs put in their places, pls
To only argue DPS being the reason why something is good is very dumb. you would see Duvolle TAR's taking out tanks instead of Forge Guns...
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Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
127
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:12:00 -
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Quote:wait..is that duvolle dmg legit? 2 shot a lav... dps is damage per second, not damage per shot.
The fact is, nobody can make the tact shoot as fast as its ROF is, not even close. And it cant even get close without the kick making every shot miss. Realistically youd maybe get 2 or 3 shots off in a second that were near accurate. Its still a great gun, but its popularity is because of range, not dps. |
Casius Hakoke
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
113
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:14:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Duvolle Tactical assault rifle dps: 941 80GJ ION Cannon dps: 973 Forge gun dps: 342 HMG dps: 466 Sniper rifle dps: 158.3
Fitting: Duvolle TAR: 90 CPU, 13 PG 80 GJ ION Cannon: 48 CPU, 1210 PG
I'd like to remove my turrets and have duvolle TARs put in their places, pls
Want to buy Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle for my the main gun of my tank. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Murder Taxi Inc.
292
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:14:00 -
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Takron Nistrom wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Duvolle Tactical assault rifle dps: 941 80GJ ION Cannon dps: 973 Forge gun dps: 342 HMG dps: 466 Sniper rifle dps: 158.3
Fitting: Duvolle TAR: 90 CPU, 13 PG 80 GJ ION Cannon: 48 CPU, 1210 PG
I'd like to remove my turrets and have duvolle TARs put in their places, pls To only argue DPS being the reason why something is good is very dumb. you would see Duvolle TAR's taking out tanks instead of Forge Guns...
It's where we are heading, imo |
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3975
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:14:00 -
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That it works? |
Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
484
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:22:00 -
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I cant believe (no actually i can) that CCP would buff this weapon, it was OP before and its OP again. Welcome to TAC AR514 where modded controlers > rest |
Omnipotent Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
191
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:22:00 -
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Only gun that has some range.
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Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
107
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:25:00 -
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Sir Meode wrote:I cant believe (no actually i can) that CCP would buff this weapon, it was OP before and its OP again. Welcome to TAC AR514 where modded controlers > rest
the recoil makes using a modded control with the tac horrable, you cant hit the broad side of a barn |
Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
179
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:27:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Duvolle Tactical assault rifle dps: 941 80GJ ION Cannon dps: 973 Forge gun dps: 342 HMG dps: 466 Sniper rifle dps: 158.3
Fitting: Duvolle TAR: 90 CPU, 13 PG 80 GJ ION Cannon: 48 CPU, 1210 PG
I'd like to remove my turrets and have duvolle TARs put in their places, pls
Which Forge Gun? Which HMG? Which Sniper Rifle? |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Murder Taxi Inc.
292
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:33:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Duvolle Tactical assault rifle dps: 941 80GJ ION Cannon dps: 973 Forge gun dps: 342 HMG dps: 466 Sniper rifle dps: 158.3
Fitting: Duvolle TAR: 90 CPU, 13 PG 80 GJ ION Cannon: 48 CPU, 1210 PG
I'd like to remove my turrets and have duvolle TARs put in their places, pls Which Forge Gun? Which HMG? Which Sniper Rifle? Each of those is the correct name of the weapon
The boundless hmg deals 513 dps The Six Kin Burst HMG deals 820 dps The Ishokone assault forge gun deals 604 dps the wiyrkomi breach forge gun deals 252 dps the kaalakiota tactical sniper deals 295 dps
the Duvolle Tar is still far and above those weapons
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1479
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:34:00 -
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lol...saying the main reason is because range. How about if it had 50 dmg? Wonder how many people would still use it?
It does 70+ dmg... that's all people need tbh. The fact that it has range is a bonus |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
107
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:36:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:lol...saying the main reason is because range. How about if it had 50 dmg? Wonder how many people would still use it? It does 70+ dmg... that's all people need tbh. The fact that it has range is a bonus i use it for the range, they could nerf it to 55-60 and ide still use it |
ZDub 303
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
29
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:36:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Each of those is the correct name of the weapon
The boundless hmg deals 513 dps The Six Kin Burst HMG deals 820 dps The Ishokone assault forge gun deals 604 dps the wiyrkomi breach forge gun deals 252 dps the kaalakiota tactical sniper deals 295 dps
the Duvolle Tar is still far and above those weapons
You can't fire the duvolle TAR fast enough to reach that kind of dps, even hip firing in CQC.
Its not the DPS that matters at all. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
107
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:37:00 -
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ide like to point out the difference between theoretical DPS and applyed dps.
you cant actually do that dps in the game, its not possable |
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Leovarian L Lavitz
Murder Taxi Inc.
294
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:40:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Each of those is the correct name of the weapon
The boundless hmg deals 513 dps The Six Kin Burst HMG deals 820 dps The Ishokone assault forge gun deals 604 dps the wiyrkomi breach forge gun deals 252 dps the kaalakiota tactical sniper deals 295 dps
the Duvolle Tar is still far and above those weapons
You can't fire the duvolle TAR fast enough to reach that kind of dps, even hip firing in CQC. Its not the DPS that matters at all. Once they fix the range on the reg AR the usage of the TAR will go down considerably. With damage mods stacked on a minmatar assault, its dps becomes 1742 (spec 5 + 5 dmg mods) It deals more in a second than an entire forge gun alphas |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1479
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:41:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:lol...saying the main reason is because range. How about if it had 50 dmg? Wonder how many people would still use it? It does 70+ dmg... that's all people need tbh. The fact that it has range is a bonus i use it for the range, they could nerf it to 55-60 and ide still use it
then half a million threads pop up about the nerf...
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EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
271
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:44:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:its popular cause its the only weapon right now with a halfway realistic range.
When no other gun works at 5 feet away and anything farther than that just effing disappears. Its the only gun halfway close to decent range to kill someone 6 feet away |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Murder Taxi Inc.
294
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:47:00 -
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EnIgMa99 wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:its popular cause its the only weapon right now with a halfway realistic range. When no other gun works at 5 feet away and anything farther than that just effing disappears. Its the only gun halfway close to decent range to kill someone 6 feet away Mass drivers have the range, why don't you run those? Could be because:
Mass Driver DPS (Body Shot) 220 Mass driver DPS (splash) 110 Duvolle TAR dps (body shot) 941 |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
156
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:47:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Each of those is the correct name of the weapon
The boundless hmg deals 513 dps The Six Kin Burst HMG deals 820 dps The Ishokone assault forge gun deals 604 dps the wiyrkomi breach forge gun deals 252 dps the kaalakiota tactical sniper deals 295 dps
the Duvolle Tar is still far and above those weapons
You can't fire the duvolle TAR fast enough to reach that kind of dps, even hip firing in CQC. Its not the DPS that matters at all. Once they fix the range on the reg AR the usage of the TAR will go down considerably. With damage mods stacked on a minmatar assault, its dps becomes 1742 (spec 5 + 5 dmg mods) It deals more in a second than an entire forge gun alphas You do know after the 3rd dmg mod they only give about 3% increase. So pretty much stacking 4 would just take up module space.
Also I'd love to see someone utilize that DPS and be able to hit anything your aiming for. |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
186
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:49:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Duvolle Tactical assault rifle dps: 941 80GJ ION Cannon dps: 973 Forge gun dps: 342 HMG dps: 466 Sniper rifle dps: 158.3
Fitting: Duvolle TAR: 90 CPU, 13 PG 80 GJ ION Cannon: 48 CPU, 1210 PG
I'd like to remove my turrets and have duvolle TARs put in their places, pls
I LOL at this!
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Kazio De Vihura
Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
16
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:54:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Duvolle Tactical assault rifle dps: 941 80GJ ION Cannon dps: 973 Forge gun dps: 342 HMG dps: 466 Sniper rifle dps: 158.3
Fitting: Duvolle TAR: 90 CPU, 13 PG 80 GJ ION Cannon: 48 CPU, 1210 PG
I'd like to remove my turrets and have duvolle TARs put in their places, pls You forgot to mention very long range 120m and you can use it with macro mouse. CCP are really start to look incompetent. |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
472
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:54:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Each of those is the correct name of the weapon
The boundless hmg deals 513 dps The Six Kin Burst HMG deals 820 dps The Ishokone assault forge gun deals 604 dps the wiyrkomi breach forge gun deals 252 dps the kaalakiota tactical sniper deals 295 dps
the Duvolle Tar is still far and above those weapons
You can't fire the duvolle TAR fast enough to reach that kind of dps, even hip firing in CQC. Its not the DPS that matters at all. Once they fix the range on the reg AR the usage of the TAR will go down considerably. With damage mods stacked on a minmatar assault, its dps becomes 1742 (spec 5 + 5 dmg mods) It deals more in a second than an entire forge gun alphas You do know after the 3rd dmg mod they only give about 3% increase. So pretty much stacking 4 would just take up module space. Also I'd love to see someone utilize that DPS and be able to hit anything your aiming for.
Like OP says replace turrets with Duvolle TAC. Whatever was holding that massive blaster turret to the tank I am sure can strap down a handheld rifle and make sure it doesn't budge. |
Kazio De Vihura
Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
16
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:55:00 -
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Bones McGavins wrote:Quote:wait..is that duvolle dmg legit? 2 shot a lav... dps is damage per second, not damage per shot. The fact is, nobody can make the tact shoot as fast as its ROF is, not even close. And it cant even get close without the kick making every shot miss. Realistically youd maybe get 2 or 3 shots off in a second that were near accurate. Its still a great gun, but its popularity is because of range, not dps. Lol macro mouse, and yes people use it ... |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2073
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:56:00 -
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Tone the damage down and it'd still be an awesome weapon. Decrease damage, increase optimal, reduce falloff. People use it for the range, the damage is just a bonus meaning you can kill a heavy in less than a second.
And LOTS of people can pull 13 clicks of a mouse per second. DS3 is harder, but it's quite possible. Aiming while doing it with a DS3 is MUCH harder. I think that the TAR will always be better balanced using a mouse. DS3 scrubs like me SHOULD be better with a Standard Duvolle.
And obviously increase the optimal range of ALL weapons by 20-25% |
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