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Obligatory Goon
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.08.26 00:17:00 -
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First and foremost, this is not a thread for arguing and fighting, this is a thread for EVE news and political discussion to help people unfamiliar with the lay of the land start to find their feet, so if you wish to pick a fight, call someone out or generally disagree, at least to it in a sensible way so that my thread does not get locked. Thank you.
I'd like to share something with you all here, it's a new EVE news site, for those of you serious about Dust but don't know the politics of the game it maybe worth starting to brush up on your information now to keep the advantage you're going to get from being in beta. After all, you wouldn't want to pick the wrong side in a large scale war right off the bat would you?...
Even if you follow EVE politics, it maybe worth you checking the site out and keeping a little more up to date with whats going on in new eden. So...Hold The Front Page
If you wake up in the morning and want to find out what happened in Eve while you slept, where do you go? If you are a Goon, you probably go to jabber and ask someone, or check The War Room for an update post. But the former leads to you being trolled by those merry japesters in your squad into believing that we killed DaBigRedBoatGÇÖs titan in a punishment beating when he told one GÇ£guys, guysGǪGÇ¥ story too many, while the updates only happen every week or so at best.
There are a couple of eve news websites, but one, the archaic Tribune, is published fortnightly in some steam-powered 19th century factory while the other is RiveriniGÇÖs cesspit of barely-literate squawkings and openly propagandistic flatulence poorly masquerading as language. Fact-checking is laughable, and relying on what you read there will get you laughed at when you repeat his paranoid rantings or obvious sock-puppeting.
If you doubt the combination of arrogance, hostility and inaccuracy that dominates what is fed to gullible readers of RiveriniGÇÖs site, then look at this link: http://i.imgur.com/nKVBI.png Riverini "gets to name coalitions". Instead of "CFC" he uses "Deklein Coalition" GÇô TCFGÇÖs bloc which has been dead for almost two years GÇô and because he is hostile to Test and Pandemic Legion (now members of a different bloc entirely) he lumps them into this fictional entity simply because it suits him to do so. A site which was a bit of a joke under Czechlion has become a dungheap masquerading as news, with impenetrable, sub-literate grammar and bleating, desperate propaganda, like Der Sturmer written by drunken gibbons.
Other news sources exist in the form of forums, ranging from the enjoyably coruscating Kugutsumen to the barely tolerable official forums, but Eve lacks a broad-based source of news and insight. We think that it is time to fix that.
TheMittani dot com
I know what you are thinking: this time he has gone too far. Has our own Ozymandias erected an entire site dedicated to the worship and adoration of the Dear Leader? Will he arrange vast, coordinated dancing displays in front of the PeoplesGÇÖ Palace complete with World of Tanks parades and rifter flypasts?
In fact, I chose the name TheMittani.com while Mittens wanted the new site to be called some dreary and worthy sobriquet: "Eve News Network" or something wearily quotidian like that. IGÇÖve literally forgotten. The fact is that "The Mittani" is a brand these days, and I wanted to make use of it: itGÇÖs provocative, itGÇÖs well-known, itGÇÖs distinctive and most important of all it was available as a dot com domain at a reasonable priceGǪ
If weGÇÖve learned one thing from the life and works of Noam Chomsky it is that there is still good money to be made by churning out articles with the old Random Postmodern Essay Generator, slapping your name on them and sticking in a bit about how all Americans are bastards at the top. But if we have learned anything else from his work, it is that it is impossible to entirely divorce a news source from the biases of its proprietors. We realise this, and I have already been prevented from running a scathing expose on Mittens' use of chin-wigs during photo shoots for the CSM campaign. But this isnGÇÖt about controlling the news cycle or disseminating propaganda. Nor is it just about sticking it to Riverini, although that is a fun by-product.
Our goal is to turn TheMittani.com into somewhere that everyone wants to come to read up-to-date news and insightful articles on Eve Online (and a few of the games that Eve Online players tend to enjoy, like World of Tanks, MWO, League of Legends and the like). We wonGÇÖt do that by churning out attack pieces on everyone we happen to be at war with. So we already have people on-board from other alliances like The Initiative (Malcanis) and Pandemic Legion (Grath), as well as the mysterious epic poet James315 (from who knows where?), and we hope to draw upon sources across all of Eve as people learn that weGÇÖre interested in providing news and insight, not just propaganda.
On that note, Goonswarm is built upon a community of people who enjoy posting about things, and in Waffe in particular that meant being able to not get banned from SomethingAwful for being terrible at posting. So if you have an idea for an article or even a series of articles on Eve, Dust 514 or related games then please hit me up on jabber or in forums PM and we can discuss it. It may be that you just want a large audience: we hope that TheMittani.com will be able to provide that. But regular contributors will be showered with plexes, ISK, spaceships and the like.
One other thing you can do to help would be to retweet news about the site, especially if you would be so kind as to mention http://www.themittani.com in your tweets!
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Obligatory Goon
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.08.26 09:58:00 -
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You know, a lot of goons are agreeable and likable, some goons happen to be the most intelligent people i've ever met. Mittens being one of them. So come on guy's, any random question you have a goon feel free to ask.. such as does mittens like a pipe or a cigarette? How does he like his eggs?...
Jack Freedumb wrote:okay look, I'm not up on EVEpolitik, I can only go by what i've seen on the net.
Most people are in that boat, i'm hoping i can give people a better view of goonwaffeswarmplatoonhoarde by answering some questions while promoting the news site.
Quote:Mittani of Goonswarm who's chief modus operandi is to spread mis-information about others, in order to spread dissension among other corps/alliances. That's not strictly true, Mittens Modus Operandi is not misinformation anymore, it was once upon a time when he set up GIA (Goon Intelligence Agency) and started to use it but GIA is in fact run by someone else now, Mittens passed that on when he stepped up to the plate to take over running the Corp after the whole Kartoon thing and the bills not getting paid in Delve. His main goal now is to keep the great unwashed masses of goons happy, content and most importantly of all to keep us entertained so we don't implode. After all, all we're here for is to have fun the same as anyone else. Anyone who's been to Something Awful will know that's its a comedy site and that's what we're all about at the end of the day.
Quote:Goonswarm who are notorious for creating alts to join and subvert other alliance/corps, the same people who have used this spy network to create data bases on players, gleaned from their spies ability to give access to corporation/alliance websites, and then illegally copy Private Information to the Goons database?
Now, this is a very, very common Pubbie myth. Goon's do obviously have Alts the same as anyone else but quite a lot of the Alts tend to be in Goon Alt Corps for various reasons, or the odd Neutral scout/Market trader but the whole thing that tends to get posted on the EVE-O forums (And i've noticed it start to spread to here too) That anything that's posted about goonwaffe, be it positive or negative is posted by a Goon alt is simply not true. A very, very, very large number of us stay well away from the EVE-O forums due to it being a cesspit of idiots and retards who are unable to string a sentence together let alone hold a sensible discussion.
We don't subvert whole alliances on a Corp scale, we have individual goons who scam for profit, and use it as a profession in EVE and GIA will tend to have several operatives in major alliances for intel reasons but typically we don't take down whole alliances from the inside, what happened with BoB was a one off and the whole story is actually a very interesting read. If you want more information on the specifics feel free to ask.
Theres no such things as a goon Database or us copying information on players, that would just be silly and us taking the game far, far too seriously. We have a lot of specialists in corp who use to do counter intel for a living and we do have a major advantage on a lot of other corps based just on the fact that we have some people in corp who have done this stuff professionally. It's really that simple.
Quote:Mittani being that douche that called out someones name at a player forum, in order to encourage their real life suicide, yes? Yes he did, he was drunk and suggested that someone go kill themselves, it wasn't meant literally though and anyone from our culture knows it was meant in an ironic, funny way but at least when mittens was sober he was man enough to admit to it, apologize to the player in question and give him enough Isk so that he never has to mine or pay for Eve ever again. Unfortunately some people do some stupid stuff when they are drunk, i'm sure we are all guilty of it at some point in our lives, i know i am!
Quote:The Goonswarm who kicked up a month long fuss about Mittani's subsiquent (only a ) month long ban for online bullying, by destroying every player cargo ship that tried to enter EVE's biggest trade hub... for a month Not really, we just happend to use Mittens ban more as an excuse to cause trouble as it's what we do best. Mittens hardly logs into EVE anyway and tends to run the corp from Skype, Jabber, Mumble and the forums etc etc so it really wasn't a big deal. Just quite litterally an excuse for us to Burn Jita even though we'd been planning it for quite some time prior to mittens getting banned. It didn't last a month either, it was only a weekend.
At the end of the day thats the great thing about EVE, you can do anything, anywhere with enough resources and planning, even the most safe places in the game can be taken over and everything can be destroyed. A lot of people had fun at that event though and it was well advertised so that people could take part in it.
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Obligatory Goon
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.08.26 10:01:00 -
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Quote:Sorry if i have gotten all this wrong, but well... Mittani himself admits to all this. Of cause he does, speculation and people talking about us only makes our reputation worse and the worse our reputation the more fun we get in game when people try to take down the big bad goonies.
Quote:imho = please tell me i got all this wrong ... i mean goons sounds kinda cool if you're into that sort of thing ... Ugh Well i've corrected what i can and i'm sure it's created more questions than it's answered.
Goons are very fun to play with, i've been a goon for over 4 years now and i've only played eve for a little while. I do play other games with Goons though and i can honestly say i wouldn't ever go back to playing an online game with anyone other than goons. It's just not the same and nowhere near as fun.
Quote:So when you advertise a website that is supposed to be a news site.... all i can think is themittani.com=FOX NEWS It's very interesting you make that comparison, if you read the OP you'll see that's exactly what we're trying to avoid due to other sites doing that very thing. If you look at the above posts and check out the website you'll see we have people from all walks of EVE posting news for us, including hisec carebeards, -A- FC's even after battles with Goonwaffe.. It's really an attempt at being the best news site for New Eden.
Ask yourself this though, would have checked the site out right away and not made your post if it was named something different? Are you only reacting that way because of the sites name and it's affiliation with Goons? We could have done it and made it very hard for people to make the link but we didnt.
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