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Veigar Mordekaiser
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Posted - 2012.08.17 07:34:00 -
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I posted this over in "General Discussions" on a thread I have gotten involved in, and I think would be relevant here. I hope not to start a flame war with this.
Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:It really is completely unimportant to balance the control schemes, as having every control scheme -available to every player- is in itself balanced.
Take for instance a fight between two equally skilled men; you give the first man a set of brass knuckles, and he says "Sweet, I'll knock his teeth in with these!" You approach the second man, and offer him the same set of brass knuckles, he responds "I don't need those to kick his ass!"
The obvious outcome, is that the first man pummels the second man, due to the advantage of having brass knuckles. However, it would be illogical to say that the fight was unfair - both men were offered the same weapon; one took advantage of it, and the other did not.
The same logic applies to KBM vs DS3, maybe not quite so dramatically, but I'm sure you can take from this the point I have made.
Edit: I am proud of this little essay.. Off to the feedback section!
Edit 2: I am not saying that a DS3 user is always going to be dominated by a KBM user, I have some friends who are VERY skilled with gamepads, and will dominate me regardless of what control scheme I choose to use. KBM provides an advantage, that is absolutely true; but a DS3 user that out skills a KBM user will still win. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.17 19:21:00 -
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Baron Rittmeister wrote:The kb/m players got what they should have never received, but it'll never be enough until they can control it like any other pc game and that's when it will kill the experience for the real ps3 players. The reason that you're not happy with the kb/m controls is because ccp can't truly balance the two. There's no possible way to balance a mouse with a controller.
I lol'd at "real PS3 players". Thats like saying people who eat sandwiches once a week aren't real sandwich eaters, because they don't eat them five times a week.
It is important that KBM players are able to control it like any other PC game, because players were promised -exactly- that, before MPT even started. David Reid himself said "We want KBM players to feel like they're playing any other PC shooter" (paraphrased). So, the fact that the delivered us this trashy KBM setup that does not work at all, is very disappointing.
Again, there is no reason to "balance" the two, because they are available to -ALL- players. Some how I'm going to take a wild guess, and say you probably didn't read my post, or you skimmed it, or you're just plain ignorant. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.18 06:07:00 -
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Smots Ju-Kyu wrote:If it was available to all players it would have come in the box when you bought your PS3 like the dualshock, not something you would have to spend extra money on and buy separately. Even though some mouse and keyboards are relatively cheap not everyone can just run out and buy one. As you EVE players love to tell everyone ADAPT OR DIE! You got your KBM in game, but it's not what you were expecting. Quit crying, learn how to use it effectively, or just ADAPT and learn to play with the dualshock
Alright, so you are undoubtedly stupid. That has been established. Lets break down what you said, and defeat your argument.
First off: Smots Ju-Kyu wrote:If it was available to all players it would have come in the box when you bought your PS3 like the dualshock, not something you would have to spend extra money on and buy separately. Even though some mouse and keyboards are relatively cheap not everyone can just run out and buy one.
I have on thing to say to this - Playstation Move.
Secondly: Smots Ju-Kyu wrote: As you EVE players love to tell everyone ADAPT OR DIE! You got your KBM in game, but it's not what you were expecting. Quit crying, learn how to use it effectively, or just ADAPT and learn to play with the dualshock
I do not play EVE. I have never once preached "Adapt or Die" or "HTFU". If you don't want KBM to allowed naturally by the game, and you want myself and others to "adapt or die" with the DS3, then you better start "adapting" to being ruled by Eagle Eye and XIM3 users. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.18 07:10:00 -
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Cherry Mercenary wrote:People exaggerating the advantages of kb+m and underestimating analog stick users. What else is new?
How about you read the things I say, before you comment on them.
Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Edit 2: I am not saying that a DS3 user is always going to be dominated by a KBM user, I have some friends who are VERY skilled with gamepads, and will dominate me regardless of what control scheme I choose to use. KBM provides an advantage, that is absolutely true; but a DS3 user that out skills a KBM user will still win. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.18 11:35:00 -
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Because your post seems relevant, and every time I hear arguments like that they tend to be against me. |
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