Hey guys. Ever heard of a game called Call of Duty? I think they have a similar issue. Maybe we should nerf them too.

Just an idea.

Maybe we should nerf the sticky grenades in Halo?

How about we nerf assault rifle?

Just because it's not a gun doesn't mean, it isn't legitimate. It's a tactic like anything else. It has weaknesses, it has strengths.

Let's all calm down and stop acting like a bunch of Codfish.

*BTW, as a Firefly, I agree. They are broken, but I have to invest very heavily in my skills to make an effective build that I wont die with every time I throw one*

RE are over the top at the moment? - and you describe the fix as a mechanic that would allow your team to cover a friendly dropship with RE (Say 8 to 10 guys co-ordinating) and one shot anything on the field, besides the enemy MCC.

So instead of people losing their 50,000 isk infantry fits and QQing they can lose their 250,000 isk vehicle fits.

Well I like it.

So... plant charges on enemy vehicle, then hack it?

I feel so sorry for CCP Devs, all this complication for you guys.

They don't stick to vehicles now, but I STILL get them to stay on top when I jump on the tank and toss it.

Leave REs alone! They are as they should be. It's called tactics. If your such a badass with ARs then don't try to jump a guy who's within throwing range of REs. The only reason you could agree with the OP is that you get owned by them and aren't smart enough or are unwilling to adjust YOUR gameplay. It's not like they can be thrown 20+ feet. I see people throwing them down and I stay calm and back up while firing...problem sloved. Or toss a nade at their feet it will cause them to suicide...problem solved.

They are BALLANCED for both the attacker and defender.

Please don't get mad when someones tactical advantage gets the better of you, just get smarter. This is how true warriors are built. People who LEARN from their mistakes, make adjustments, and become better, smarter warriors because of it.

Please don't fall into the same mindset as most of the FPS console crowds. "Nerf it it owns me". Please don't water this gmae down to BF and or CoD.

Please keep it fast paced, keep my mind working, keep me on edge. Don't let this turn into another FPS sleeper.

I can play CoD drunk and have a 2.00 KDR. It's weak sauce.

This game as is keeps me on my toes, makes me wanna play another match, then another, and another. It is a challenge. I love to see what tactics I will have to fight against in the next match.

What I learn from each maps changes what I put my SPs into. My character evolves WITH the game, with the players involved and the tactics they employ. This will give the game LOGEVITY.

In other FPSs, before long a "standard" loadout becomes known and everyone runs around with the same guns/perks. BORING!

Rise above this mentality people! Rise and fight what you hate with tactics, not calls for nerfs. Make them think twice about using their tactics. Make THEM fear YOU! Not the other way around.

So I think what we can gather from this thread is that REs are fine how they are. People just need to L2P.

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All I read was a bunch of jibber jabber about not wanting to L2P and just run up on people not employing any tactics. This is not CoD please don't try to make it CoD. Just go play that instead.

Some of us like a deverse game that takes tactics and skill and is not all nerfed to hell so people can run around with reckless abandon.

Oh and there were some sensible posts trying to combat that mindless dribble.

Again, so REs are fine. Some just need to L2P.

Did someone hack a developer account? I can't believe this sort of overreaction would come from a company that has been consistently supportive of emergent, sandbox-style gameplay. What happened to handing gamers an array of tools and letting them discover their uses? From the above statement, RE's are not only going to be nerfed, they're going to be functionally erased from the game. No one will bother. What's the point of wasting an infantry slot and draining more CPU/PG for such useless gear? "Lower throw distance"? Really? CCP, do you even play your game? Or do you just spend your time taking any whining as the gospel? They ALREADY can't be thrown. They're dropped a couple feet away. By jumping and using momentum, they can be tossed a bit further. But again, this is emergent gameplay. Discovering ways of getting around the limitations of the game's tools. The sort of experimentation and discovery that SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED. Guess what, the better players adapt and evolve. I've seen it myself. It's frustrating AND stimulating. It requires a rethinking on both sides. The braindead gripers who don't have the capacity to learn from their deaths will eventually head back to COD--something they will do anyways if you make this game a straight-jacket in which the only way to kill someone is to shoot them. The sort of player what will make the most of a sandbox game is also the sort of player who will stick with it for the long haul. Trigger happy COD kids have trouble with commitments.

This, quick-to-nerf mentality of CCP, has been the most troubling aspect of my time in the beta. In contrast to the many public statements about their ambitious plans for Dust, they continually put a stranglehold on those players finding ways of testing the limits. In practice, their vision seems to be one of narrowness and constriction. They kowtow to a handful on an issue that has adherents on both sides. They also often fail to offer much rationale for their verdicts. You're quickly burning your bridges CCP. Planetside keeps looking better and better.