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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2015.07.18 12:56:00 -
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Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about anything, that's kinda the point of this thread. Keep in mind I'm not caring about what is the optimal way to fit, just what would be racially appropriate.
This is currently how I see it (know that I have 0 experience with EVE)
Amarr Overall goal: slow and durable, meant to survive the fight and end it quickly so you can have more time to slowly recover
-Highs: All damage mods, possibly a single shield extender. -Lows: Plates and more plates, with an armor rep if you don't have a Min slave
Caldari Overall goal: Tanky just like the Amarr, but keeps to the extreme ranges so that shield regulation can work properly
-Highs: Shield extenders for days -Lows: Regulators and a profile damp
Gallente Overall goal: Hit and run CQC builds with high damage and fast armor regen. Get in, get out, get back in.
-Highs: Damage mods and a precision enhancer or energizer -Lows: Priority armor reps with a few ferroscale plates
Minmatar Overall goal: Fast and versatile with an emphasis on dual tank, shield recharge, and mobility.
-Highs: A balance of shield extenders and energizers -Lows: Reactive plates and a kin cat
Opinions?
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
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Ghosts Chance
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.18 13:04:00 -
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minmatar
strap anything you can fit onto it and hope for the best
vigerous use of duct tape to holld everything inn place, the suit can do anything you want it to with enough tape.
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Stormblade Green
KnightKiller's inc.
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Posted - 2015.07.18 13:06:00 -
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Min....go with replacing a energized with a damage mod..... other than that I see very little issue... hate where you say dual tank.meh.
One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2015.07.18 13:32:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:minmatar
strap anything you can fit onto it and hope for the best
vigerous use of duct tape to holld everything inn place, the suit can do anything you want it to with enough tape.
*straps repair tool to the side of HMG*
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
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Ghosts Chance
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.18 13:38:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:minmatar
strap anything you can fit onto it and hope for the best
vigerous use of duct tape to holld everything inn place, the suit can do anything you want it to with enough tape. *straps repair tool to the side of HMG* atta boy
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Golden Day
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.18 13:52:00 -
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EW shield extender on a amarr isn't racial that's just being a heathen
Im just a glorified blueberry
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The KTM DuKe
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.07.18 14:18:00 -
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A gal will never get in and out cuz he runs out of stamina while getting in...then obviously stack reps
From this http://m.imgur.com/K8bTapW to this http://imgur.com/IQiqQ4A
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2015.07.19 11:42:00 -
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Bumping due to all the AMAs
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.07.19 11:44:00 -
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I usually fit my Minmatar suits with maximum gank in mind.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.07.19 11:48:00 -
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Gallente- use damage mods, cqc, ferroscale for high tank but no penalty. Kincats to go faster, reps and scanners.
This is my racial galassault-
Assault gk.0 Ar of choice Ion pistol Pro flux grenade Pro scanner 3 pro ferroscale 2 pro reps
You can swap out a ferro for a Kincats if you want a tanked and speedy assault.
CEO of 48th Special Operations Force
Twitter-@48SOF
Scout and Assault GK.0/Rattati and Scotsman GK.0
OFF/EXP GEAR
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Golden Day
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.19 11:48:00 -
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Nocturnal how does that even work....
You are a Amarr loyalist but you also use minmatar gear...
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.19 11:51:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote: Gallente
-Highs: Damage mods and a precision enhancer or energizer
No.
Damage mods/precision enhancers are fairly common. Myos are useful to hop over things.
Energizers are not useful for Gallente fits.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Gallente Guide
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.07.19 11:57:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Nocturnal how does that even work....
You are a Amarr loyalist but you also use minmatar gear... RP-wise my character is half True Amarr & half Brutor. That's why if you see me I'll be rocking a Brutor skin on every one of my Minmatar suits.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Golden Day
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.19 12:00:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Golden Day wrote:Nocturnal how does that even work....
You are a Amarr loyalist but you also use minmatar gear... RP-wise my character is half True Amarr & half Brutor. That's why if you see me I'll be rocking a Brutor skin on every one of my Minmatar suits. Wait wouldn't that make you a Ammatar??
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.07.19 12:04:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Golden Day wrote:Nocturnal how does that even work....
You are a Amarr loyalist but you also use minmatar gear... RP-wise my character is half True Amarr & half Brutor. That's why if you see me I'll be rocking a Brutor skin on every one of my Minmatar suits. Wait wouldn't that make you a Ammatar?? The Nefentar are Ammatar, fully converted Minmatar given a domain to rule over themselves in full service to God, a proxy kingdom if you think about it. I'm just a filthy half blood :D
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Golden Day
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.19 12:09:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Golden Day wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Golden Day wrote:Nocturnal how does that even work....
You are a Amarr loyalist but you also use minmatar gear... RP-wise my character is half True Amarr & half Brutor. That's why if you see me I'll be rocking a Brutor skin on every one of my Minmatar suits. Wait wouldn't that make you a Ammatar?? The Nefentar are Ammatar, fully converted Minmatar given a domain to rule over themselves in full service to God, a proxy kingdom if you think about it. I'm just a filthy half blood :D So......your mix has no name?
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.07.19 12:11:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Golden Day wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Golden Day wrote:Nocturnal how does that even work....
You are a Amarr loyalist but you also use minmatar gear... RP-wise my character is half True Amarr & half Brutor. That's why if you see me I'll be rocking a Brutor skin on every one of my Minmatar suits. Wait wouldn't that make you a Ammatar?? The Nefentar are Ammatar, fully converted Minmatar given a domain to rule over themselves in full service to God, a proxy kingdom if you think about it. I'm just a filthy half blood :D So......your mix has no name? Nope! People usually just choose the race they mostly identify with.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.19 13:27:00 -
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loled @ Caldari= tanky. That was a good joke.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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The KTM DuKe
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.07.19 13:30:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Gallente- use damage mods, cqc, ferroscale for high tank but no penalty. Kincats to go faster, reps and scanners.
This is my racial galassault-
Assault gk.0 Ar of choice Ion pistol Pro flux grenade Pro scanner 3 pro ferroscale 2 pro reps
You can swap out a ferro for a Kincats if you want a tanked and speedy assault. Pro flux nade is kinda useless...
Italy, a country that can QQ and speak, dont ask them to act though.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.07.19 13:38:00 -
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Amarr would have a hardener, but CCP won't make that mod for infantry.
MY CPM2 PLATFORM
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Regnier Feros
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.19 15:08:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Gallente- use damage mods, cqc, ferroscale for high tank but no penalty. Kincats to go faster, reps and scanners.
This is my racial galassault-
Assault gk.0 Ar of choice Ion pistol Pro flux grenade Pro scanner 3 pro ferroscale 2 pro reps
You can swap out a ferro for a Kincats if you want a tanked and speedy assault. use 3 reactives for more regen
ZariaOwnsWhips
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.07.19 15:30:00 -
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The KTM DuKe wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Gallente- use damage mods, cqc, ferroscale for high tank but no penalty. Kincats to go faster, reps and scanners.
This is my racial galassault-
Assault gk.0 Ar of choice Ion pistol Pro flux grenade Pro scanner 3 pro ferroscale 2 pro reps
You can swap out a ferro for a Kincats if you want a tanked and speedy assault. Pro flux nade is kinda useless...
It is for infantry but it's awesome for av.
CEO of 48th Special Operations Force
Twitter-@48SOF
Scout and Assault GK.0/Rattati and Scotsman GK.0
OFF/EXP GEAR
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.07.19 15:42:00 -
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Racially fited Amarr only works for sentinel.
Loyal to The State
Official Caldari Commando User
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Regnier Feros
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.19 15:48:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Racially fited Amarr only works for sentinel.
Tried 3 basic plates on my Am sent the other day, I had decent circle strafe but side to side strafe was poor.
ZariaOwnsWhips
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Songs of Seraphim
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.19 16:38:00 -
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For Caldari:
A couple of Shield Extenders alongside Shield Rechargers and Energizers for the high slots; and Shield Regulators in the lows.
Achura Bloodline
Loyalist of the State
Reclaim Caldari Prime!
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
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Posted - 2015.07.19 18:31:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about anything, that's kinda the point of this thread. Keep in mind I'm not caring about what is the optimal way to fit, just what would be racially appropriate.
Minmatar Overall goal: Fast and versatile with an emphasis on dual tank, shield recharge, and mobility.
-Highs: Two shield energizers and the rest extenders -Lows: Reactive plates and a kin cat
Opinions?
In EVE, at least when I was playing years ago, the most patriotic minmatar fit was damage mods/tracking enhancers in the lows, and propulsion mods/warp disruption/flimsy shield tank in the midslots (midslots in eve are like our highslots, high slots in eve are weapons/equipment), with the goal of evading enough incoming damage with speed to survive long enough for your autocannons to shred your victim
In other words, circle strafing while spraying ACR/SMG fire in the general direction of the enemy is one of the most minmatar things you can do in dust, right up there with shield tanking and long range attacks for the caldari, stacking more armor plates than a forklift operator at a Caldari Steel warehouse while a minmatar slave repairs you for the Amarr, or dying before getting within shotgun range for the Gallente
Since our damage mods are in the highslots instead of the lowslots like eve because reasons, I like to substitute a ferroscale armor tank with a rep for my minmatar fits and use a mix of damage mods/myos for mobility in the highs
As soon as we get the prophesied ROF mods and damage mod slot switch though, I'm going full dakka
2-3x ROF mods, 2-3x damage mods, flimsy tank or speed mods in whatever few slots are left |
I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2015.07.19 19:18:00 -
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Overall it seems like other than Caldari, every race just wants to stack damage mods.
Thanks to everyome who provided feedback, I have made changes to the OP to reflect it
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.07.19 19:22:00 -
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Stack Brick > All Else.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.07.19 19:58:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Racially fited Amarr only works for sentinel.
Shows how much you know.
As I see it there are really two kinds of viable fits for the Amarr dropsuits both of which adhere to the principle that armour is superior to shields by significant margins.
The first is the standard 'heavy resistance tank' which is typically achieved in EVE through the combined use of armour plates and resistance plating modules. In dust this can basically be relegated down to making use of armour plates over repairers in a 1.5/1 ratio.
The other way and this is more or less how I fit my ships in EVE is basically a light weight, reasonably fast, mid ranger kiting ship designed to keep a fair range from the enemy and whittle them away with superior fire power. For this I like to use Ferroscales to keep mobile. A more radical fit could see a Kinetic Catalyzer added in for that extra boost of speed however this kind of fit is not suited for short ranges gunplay or defending points.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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