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Slave of MORTE 432	Posted - 2015.05.05 09:32:00 - [1] - Quote When ratatti...i know you guys have to be considering it I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
Dead Cavino RestlessSpirits 52	Posted - 2015.05.05 09:41:00 - [2] - Quote +1 I don't like two-legged things.
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1111	Posted - 2015.05.05 10:33:00 - [3] - Quote If you would just just look around you would find a sticky by Rattati himself.
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 1140	Posted - 2015.05.05 11:11:00 - [4] - Quote Slave of MORTE wrote: When ratatti...i know you guys have to be considering it So you want more protostompers?
thor424 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 118	Posted - 2015.05.05 12:11:00 - [5] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Slave of MORTE wrote: When ratatti...i know you guys have to be considering it So you want more protostompers? Yes Thor's Emporium
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1336	Posted - 2015.05.05 12:25:00 - [6] - Quote It's already paying 400k+ per battle. But i wouldn't mind pay rise :). Caldari Loyalist thecreaturehub fan
PaulyPanCakes89 Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 14	Posted - 2015.05.05 12:28:00 - [7] - Quote + juan If you ain't first your last
Slave of MORTE 435	Posted - 2015.05.05 13:59:00 - [8] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: If you would just just look around you would find a sticky by Rattati himself. I see nothing about a when I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
Slave of MORTE 435	Posted - 2015.05.05 14:06:00 - [9] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Slave of MORTE wrote: When ratatti...i know you guys have to be considering it So you want more protostompers? Let me explain something to you and every new player every poor player The state most proto stompers are in assuming they are better than me ..and I'm an average player .. I have 2 billion isk I have 994 proto tanks I have 300 fully stocked and loaded suits of 8 proto roles .. i can spam 3 proto logi suits 1 proto sentinel 2 proto assaults a proto scout and a proto commando and proto ranks indefinitely without restocking raising payouts means ** to me isk means nothing to me ..all dust is to me us a place to have fun using any bloody gear I damn well *** please because I've played this game for 3 ***** god damn years Raising payouts does 1 thing ..help all you new players and broke players afford better gear to make my fight harder It encourages you to push for the win ..and opens up potential to afford running higher end gear if you win .. So to all you may sayers that say raising isk will make proto stomping worse. ..yes it will make it harder to stomp which is what I want I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2264	Posted - 2015.05.05 14:19:00 - [10] - Quote Slave of MORTE wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Slave of MORTE wrote: When ratatti...i know you guys have to be considering it So you want more protostompers? Let me explain something to you and every new player every poor player The state most proto stompers are in assuming they are better than me ..and I'm an average player .. I have 2 billion isk I have 994 proto tanks I have 300 fully stocked and loaded suits of 8 proto roles .. i can spam 3 proto logi suits 1 proto sentinel 2 proto assaults a proto scout and a proto commando and proto ranks indefinitely without restocking raising payouts means ** to me isk means nothing to me ..all dust is to me us a place to have fun using any bloody gear I damn well *** please because I've played this game for 3 ***** god damn years Raising payouts does 1 thing ..help all you new players and broke players afford better gear to make my fight harder It encourages you to push for the win ..and opens up potential to afford running higher end gear if you win .. So to all you may sayers that say raising isk will make proto stomping worse. ..yes it will make it harder to stomp which is what I want This. All day. This. Better netcoding and plugged memory leaks. Last pieces of the broken puzlzle.

PADDEHATPIGEN BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 202	Posted - 2015.05.05 14:30:00 - [11] - Quote Slave of MORTE wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Slave of MORTE wrote: When ratatti...i know you guys have to be considering it So you want more protostompers? Let me explain something to you and every new player every poor player The state most proto stompers are in assuming they are better than me ..and I'm an average player .. I have 2 billion isk I have 994 proto tanks I have 300 fully stocked and loaded suits of 8 proto roles .. i can spam 3 proto logi suits 1 proto sentinel 2 proto assaults a proto scout and a proto commando and proto ranks indefinitely without restocking raising payouts means ** to me isk means nothing to me ..all dust is to me us a place to have fun using any bloody gear I damn well *** please because I've played this game for 3 ***** god damn years Raising payouts does 1 thing ..help all you new players and broke players afford better gear to make my fight harder It encourages you to push for the win ..and opens up potential to afford running higher end gear if you win .. So to all you may sayers that say raising isk will make proto stomping worse. ..yes it will make it harder to stomp which is what I want THIS THIS AND THIS =ƒÿÿ On top of all that some of them also played Eve Online for many many years as well, THEY WILL NEVER RUN OUT OF ISK. But when all the newbees get to proto themselves they might be able to afford to play in it if payout got raised. Remember with the NEW MATCHMAKING you all want to have, you will ONLY fight other protos the day you become proto yourself. BE CAREFULL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.
Slave of MORTE 438	Posted - 2015.05.05 16:13:00 - [12] - Quote PADDEHATPIGEN wrote: Slave of MORTE wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Slave of MORTE wrote: When ratatti...i know you guys have to be considering it So you want more protostompers? Let me explain something to you and every new player every poor player The state most proto stompers are in assuming they are better than me ..and I'm an average player .. I have 2 billion isk I have 994 proto tanks I have 300 fully stocked and loaded suits of 8 proto roles .. i can spam 3 proto logi suits 1 proto sentinel 2 proto assaults a proto scout and a proto commando and proto ranks indefinitely without restocking raising payouts means ** to me isk means nothing to me ..all dust is to me us a place to have fun using any bloody gear I damn well *** please because I've played this game for 3 ***** god damn years Raising payouts does 1 thing ..help all you new players and broke players afford better gear to make my fight harder It encourages you to push for the win ..and opens up potential to afford running higher end gear if you win .. So to all you may sayers that say raising isk will make proto stomping worse. ..yes it will make it harder to stomp which is what I want THIS THIS AND THIS =ƒÿÿ On top of all that some of them also played Eve Online for many many years as well, THEY WILL NEVER RUN OUT OF ISK. But when all the newbees get to proto themselves they might be able to afford to play in it if payout got raised. Remember with the NEW MATCHMAKING you all want to have, you will ONLY fight other protos the day you become proto yourself. BE CAREFULL WHAT YOU WISH FOR. Exactly ..players like me atm are forming elites squads using all the knowledge sp and money at our disposal to ensure continued stomping. ..full squads of decent players still rage quit matches on sight of some if the squads I run in ... Matchmaking is solid the average player level I've encountered has gone up ..now to give everyone a reason to try for a win and through winning gain money to take on the ancients lol like like some more aggressive people to kill Also sorry for massive typos ..i just moved and dumped the bf so I'm drunk n on my phone ..Ps i have enough isk to get sloshed and spam proto tanks for 3 days because my ex pissed me off Can you afford to spam proto av or decent tanks to kill me if I decided to do that lol ..like upping isk payouts is good for you new players pats you guys on the head just stfu nodd..say yes mortedeamor and accept more isk I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
DiablosMajora 154	Posted - 2015.05.05 16:17:00 - [13] - Quote This whole thread... lol >m-muh isk! Just do the smart thing drink the tiericide Prepare your angus
Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3072	Posted - 2015.05.05 16:32:00 - [14] - Quote The system was designed around the following concept: STD: cheap, wear these to make ISK ADV: Break even, solid performance PRO: Unaffordable to run 24/7. The fact that PRO gear has become affordable to run constantly means we need to solve THAT problem. Solution: raise the price of PRO gear significantly (e.g. 1 mill ISK fits for full PRO). Add more ISK sinks. If everyone runs PRO all the time, then it's no longer special, it's just like everyone running STD in the academy. It turns the game into COD. What makes DUST interesting is that you have risk/reward with different suits/fits. Best PvE idea ever!
Slave of MORTE 439	Posted - 2015.05.05 16:37:00 - [15] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: The system was designed around the following concept: STD: cheap, wear these to make ISK ADV: Break even, solid performance PRO: Unaffordable to run 24/7. The fact that PRO gear has become affordable to run constantly means we need to solve THAT problem. Solution: raise the price of PRO gear significantly (e.g. 1 mill ISK fits for full PRO). Add more ISK sinks. If everyone runs PRO all the time, then it's no longer special, it's just like everyone running STD in the academy. It turns the game into COD. What makes DUST interesting is that you have risk/reward with different suits/fits. It's not about everyone running proto it's about raising payouts so newer players feel comfortable running what they consider Thier good gear ..to give a more challenging fight also a reason to push for the win I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
Slave of MORTE 439	Posted - 2015.05.05 16:38:00 - [16] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: The system was designed around the following concept: STD: cheap, wear these to make ISK ADV: Break even, solid performance PRO: Unaffordable to run 24/7. The fact that PRO gear has become affordable to run constantly means we need to solve THAT problem. Solution: raise the price of PRO gear significantly (e.g. 1 mill ISK fits for full PRO). Add more ISK sinks. If everyone runs PRO all the time, then it's no longer special, it's just like everyone running STD in the academy. It turns the game into COD. What makes DUST interesting is that you have risk/reward with different suits/fits. Troll I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6415	Posted - 2015.05.05 16:43:00 - [17] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: The system was designed around the following concept: STD: cheap, wear these to make ISK ADV: Break even, solid performance PRO: Unaffordable to run 24/7. The fact that PRO gear has become affordable to run constantly means we need to solve THAT problem. Solution: raise the price of PRO gear significantly (e.g. 1 mill ISK fits for full PRO). Add more ISK sinks. If everyone runs PRO all the time, then it's no longer special, it's just like everyone running STD in the academy. It turns the game into COD. What makes DUST interesting is that you have risk/reward with different suits/fits. I like that thinking. I believe the current system for ISK only takes into account your standing at the end of the match, and what meta level you were using. WP only affects SP. Noticed that yesterday, when I had about 1500 WP at the end of the match, I only made 180K ISK, but got 10K SP. Despite the high number of WP, I was still like, 5th on my team for WP, probably 9th or 10th across both teams, and using standard gear for the most part. Some details can be ignored
Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3074	Posted - 2015.05.05 16:45:00 - [18] - Quote Slave of MORTE wrote: Vell0cet wrote: The system was designed around the following concept: STD: cheap, wear these to make ISK ADV: Break even, solid performance PRO: Unaffordable to run 24/7. The fact that PRO gear has become affordable to run constantly means we need to solve THAT problem. Solution: raise the price of PRO gear significantly (e.g. 1 mill ISK fits for full PRO). Add more ISK sinks. If everyone runs PRO all the time, then it's no longer special, it's just like everyone running STD in the academy. It turns the game into COD. What makes DUST interesting is that you have risk/reward with different suits/fits. It's not about everyone running proto it's about raising payouts so newer players feel comfortable running what they consider Thier good gear ..to give a more challenging fight also a reason to push for the win If everyone ran ADV most of the time then it would easier for players to "push for the win." It would also be more meaningful if you did pull out the PRO gear (and risk a very big loss) to help turn the tide. Best PvE idea ever!
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6415	Posted - 2015.05.05 16:47:00 - [19] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: Slave of MORTE wrote: Vell0cet wrote: The system was designed around the following concept: STD: cheap, wear these to make ISK ADV: Break even, solid performance PRO: Unaffordable to run 24/7. The fact that PRO gear has become affordable to run constantly means we need to solve THAT problem. Solution: raise the price of PRO gear significantly (e.g. 1 mill ISK fits for full PRO). Add more ISK sinks. If everyone runs PRO all the time, then it's no longer special, it's just like everyone running STD in the academy. It turns the game into COD. What makes DUST interesting is that you have risk/reward with different suits/fits. It's not about everyone running proto it's about raising payouts so newer players feel comfortable running what they consider Thier good gear ..to give a more challenging fight also a reason to push for the win If everyone ran ADV most of the time then it would easier for players to "push for the win." It would also be more meaningful if you did pull out the PRO gear (and risk a very big loss) to help turn the tide. My system is usually: standard out of the block, advanced if we're winning, proto if it's damn close. Some details can be ignored
1913 DfLo ScReWeD uP InC Smart Deploy 351	Posted - 2015.05.05 16:48:00 - [20] - Quote Agreed *I'm ScReWeD uP* New To Dust? Sign Up

CeeJ Mantis Mantodea MC 181	Posted - 2015.05.05 17:19:00 - [21] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: The system was designed around the following concept: STD: cheap, wear these to make ISK ADV: Break even, solid performance PRO: Unaffordable to run 24/7. The fact that PRO gear has become affordable to run constantly means we need to solve THAT problem. Solution: raise the price of PRO gear significantly (e.g. 1 mill ISK fits for full PRO). Add more ISK sinks. If everyone runs PRO all the time, then it's no longer special, it's just like everyone running STD in the academy. It turns the game into COD. What makes DUST interesting is that you have risk/reward with different suits/fits. Raising proto costs won't do anything. You need a draconian approach of removing all isk above x amount, and all non officer/experimental/aur stockpiled gear above y amount. Not saying it should happen, (though if people are fundementally infinitely wealthy, then this is problematic and needs to be addressed), just that anything less would do nothing. Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
Slave of MORTE 440	Posted - 2015.05.05 17:26:00 - [22] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Vell0cet wrote: The system was designed around the following concept: STD: cheap, wear these to make ISK ADV: Break even, solid performance PRO: Unaffordable to run 24/7. The fact that PRO gear has become affordable to run constantly means we need to solve THAT problem. Solution: raise the price of PRO gear significantly (e.g. 1 mill ISK fits for full PRO). Add more ISK sinks. If everyone runs PRO all the time, then it's no longer special, it's just like everyone running STD in the academy. It turns the game into COD. What makes DUST interesting is that you have risk/reward with different suits/fits. I like that thinking. I believe the current system for ISK only takes into account your standing at the end of the match, and what meta level you were using. WP only affects SP. Noticed that yesterday, when I had about 1500 WP at the end of the match, I only made 180K ISK, but got 10K SP. Despite the high number of WP, I was still like, 5th on my team for WP, probably 9th or 10th across both teams, and using standard gear for the most part. Your rank on leader boards is based upon wp ..wp effects sp ..directly and indirectly effects isk by raising your rank .. I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3074	Posted - 2015.05.05 18:20:00 - [23] - Quote CeeJ Mantis wrote: Vell0cet wrote: The system was designed around the following concept: STD: cheap, wear these to make ISK ADV: Break even, solid performance PRO: Unaffordable to run 24/7. The fact that PRO gear has become affordable to run constantly means we need to solve THAT problem. Solution: raise the price of PRO gear significantly (e.g. 1 mill ISK fits for full PRO). Add more ISK sinks. If everyone runs PRO all the time, then it's no longer special, it's just like everyone running STD in the academy. It turns the game into COD. What makes DUST interesting is that you have risk/reward with different suits/fits. Raising proto costs won't do anything. You need a draconian approach of removing all isk above x amount, and all non officer/experimental/aur stockpiled gear above y amount. Not saying it should happen, (though if people are fundementally infinitely wealthy, then this is problematic and needs to be addressed), just that anything less would do nothing. I would refund all PRO gear in assets to ISK at 100% of the current prices. Then I'd change the prices of PRO gear. No need to wipe the wallets of players. Even billionaires would feel the sting of higher PRO prices. Some could always run PRO, but that would be a very small percent of the player base, and they're almost certainly not going to be running a full squad of PRO users. Even still, a full squad of ADV users could still bring some serious pain to them with good teamwork. I'd also significantly reduce the flood of officer/experimental gear into the game (e.g. via salvage and the war barge). In EVE, even very rich alliances/coalitions consider ISK efficiency and affordability when they design their fleet doctrines. Right now PRO is way too affordable to be "special occasion gear." That's what needs to be fixed. You can't steal the wealth players have accrued, but you can make things expensive enough that their wallets will start to decrease substantially if they constantly run PRO stuff. Best PvE idea ever!
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2962	Posted - 2015.05.05 20:35:00 - [24] - Quote Slave of MORTE wrote: PADDEHATPIGEN wrote: Slave of MORTE wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Slave of MORTE wrote: When ratatti...i know you guys have to be considering it So you want more protostompers? Let me explain something to you and every new player every poor player The state most proto stompers are in assuming they are better than me ..and I'm an average player .. I have 2 billion isk I have 994 proto tanks I have 300 fully stocked and loaded suits of 8 proto roles .. i can spam 3 proto logi suits 1 proto sentinel 2 proto assaults a proto scout and a proto commando and proto ranks indefinitely without restocking raising payouts means ** to me isk means nothing to me ..all dust is to me us a place to have fun using any bloody gear I damn well *** please because I've played this game for 3 *** god damn years Raising payouts does 1 thing ..help all you new players and broke players afford better gear to make my fight harder It encourages you to push for the win ..and opens up potential to afford running higher end gear if you win .. So to all you may sayers that say raising isk will make proto stomping worse. ..yes it will make it harder to stomp which is what I want THIS THIS AND THIS =ƒÿÿ On top of all that some of them also played Eve Online for many many years as well, THEY WILL NEVER RUN OUT OF ISK. But when all the newbees get to proto themselves they might be able to afford to play in it if payout got raised. Remember with the NEW MATCHMAKING you all want to have, you will ONLY fight other protos the day you become proto yourself. BE CAREFULL WHAT YOU WISH FOR. Exactly ..players like me atm are forming elites squads using all the knowledge sp and money at our disposal to ensure continued stomping. ..full squads of decent players still rage quit matches on sight of some if the squads I run in ... Matchmaking is solid the average player level I've encountered has gone up ..now to give everyone a reason to try for a win and through winning gain money to take on the ancients lol like like some more aggressive people to kill Also sorry for massive typos ..i just moved and dumped the bf so I'm drunk n on my phone ..Ps i have enough isk to get sloshed and spam proto tanks for 3 days because my ex pissed me off Can you afford to spam proto av or decent tanks to kill me if I decided to do that lol ..like upping isk payouts is good for you new players pats you guys on the head just stfu nodd..say yes mortedeamor and accept more isk Sorry to hear your relationship woes. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1403	Posted - 2015.05.05 20:50:00 - [25] - Quote I think it is certainly time for one, not everyone got to farm the hell out of pc and become proto gods imortal raising it will bring more proto out, but not from those who are already doing so..as they won't even really notice anything other than more challenge.
Dead Cavino RestlessSpirits 57	Posted - 2015.05.06 08:02:00 - [26] - Quote I made an alt a while back on my same account, which means no passive sp. he currently has 3m sp IIRC. dont play him often. but i got an advanced gal assault suit, advanced assault rifles, advanced ion pistol(which is so unbelievable buggy, but i digress), and advanced armor skils. with an advanced scanner i think. Everything advanced on this suit cost 40-50k isk i believe. This is this characters BEST gear, and is extremely hard to run do to low isk payouts. i can only make 100-200k normally on good match. ie: Victory Dont even wanna talk about loss payouts I die frequently and usually end up losing isk on most matches. Summary: Isk payouts for lower sp characters makes me feel like I'm Mr Hands. I don't like two-legged things.
The Lion ElJonson 1st Legion The Dark Angels Learning Alliance 177	Posted - 2015.05.06 11:28:00 - [27] - Quote They raised Payouts ages ago, Daily missions, hacked key cards/strong boxes and salvage. The chat channel 'player trade' is open for adding contacts and placing item advertisements in game.
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 5141	Posted - 2015.05.06 13:06:00 - [28] - Quote Did I just read 1m a suit? You want my suit to cost as much as a proto tank? Oh while you're at it get rid of PC..for 1m a suit PC wouldn't be worth it.. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Slave of MORTE 446	Posted - 2015.05.06 21:32:00 - [29] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Did I just read 1m a suit? You want my suit to cost as much as a proto tank? Oh while you're at it get rid of PC..for 1m a suit PC wouldn't be worth it.. I did say he was a troll I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
Slave of MORTE 446	Posted - 2015.05.06 21:33:00 - [30] - Quote Dead Cavino wrote: I made an alt a while back on my same account, which means no passive sp. he currently has 3m sp IIRC. dont play him often. but i got an advanced gal assault suit, advanced assault rifles, advanced ion pistol(which is so unbelievable buggy, but i digress), and advanced armor skils. with an advanced scanner i think. Everything advanced on this suit cost 40-50k isk i believe. This is this characters BEST gear, and is extremely hard to run do to low isk payouts. i can only make 100-200k normally on good match. ie: Victory Dont even wanna talk about loss payouts I die frequently and usually end up losing isk on most matches. Summary: Isk payouts for lower sp characters makes me feel like I'm Mr Hands. Yes because you need versatility and power to effectively harvest the max isk ..and even then the average is incredibly low to Low to inspire rough matches I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina



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