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Francois Sanchez
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2015.04.08 17:18:00 -
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As usual there is no FW games running at decent timings for Europe CCP could you please finally change the damn useless timer to the number of players Qing so that we can launch the damn thing earlier. |
Templar XIII
135
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Posted - 2015.04.08 17:44:00 -
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I know that feel bruh. It's hard to get a decent amount of FW matches before midnight EU time, which is why it takes like forever to get my Amarr standing near 10.0 (7.32 atm). With 3-4 matches a day max (some people gotta go to work) and a win quote of 40-50% at best, it will take me roughly 536 days to get there, if not a lot longer.
Please CCP, make FW available to EU players as well...the way it is atm, this event will be nothing but a bad joke for us.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1611
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Posted - 2015.04.08 18:27:00 -
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Sad thing is, is that there isnt really anything CCP can do. they cant force people to play during regular EU hours and majority of playerbase is U.S/JP. Its a shame the Drone Infestation mode never panned out, that could have been used as an 'offline' way of getting faction LP by doing missions for racial agents to clear NPC districts over run with rogue drones and get isk/salvage/LP/standing as reward
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4335
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Posted - 2015.04.08 18:41:00 -
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Blame the players, if they don't queue.
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Francois Sanchez
Prima Gallicus
372
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Posted - 2015.04.08 19:43:00 -
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I know CCP can't do anything about the players, but what they can do is removing that goddamn timer as some people are asking for months because it is a part of the problem. Many times I wanted to play FW there were enough players willing to participate to fill two games, but as they were seeing the 00:00 they didn't want to Q and wait. With the number of players Qing instead of that timer, they would realize they actually can play FW and Q up with the others. The problem with FW has always been starting the first game, once it's done there will always have enough players to keep going.
I'm also mad at CCP because they've let FW dying since 1.7, even if they increased the LP payouts and added interesting stuff in the LP store, they didn't do anything to solve the core problems. |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
9225
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Posted - 2015.04.08 19:47:00 -
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I think, given that it is a MM/Mu less system, that there shouldn't be any problems with having less than full rosters, as long as the numbers are relatively close on each side.
Perhaps this is just an assumption, but would you rather play 10 v 9 (8) rather than not at all?
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
2104
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Posted - 2015.04.08 20:04:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:I think, given that it is a MM/Mu less system, that there shouldn't be any problems with having less than full rosters, as long as the numbers are relatively close on each side.
Perhaps this is just an assumption, but would you rather play 10 v 9 (8) rather than not at all?
Apparently there is *some* Scottiness / matchmaking involved with FW - I'm still unclear as to exactly what's what with all this matchmaking / Scotty all balled up into a single concept. There are two separate things, but I get the feeling Scotty and matchmaking are currently synonymous.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2715764#post2715764
Anyway I'll be trying to Q FW come tomorrow. GMT +1 here. |
Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
1570
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Posted - 2015.04.08 20:11:00 -
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Francois Sanchez wrote:As usual there is no FW games running at decent timings for Europe CCP could you please finally change the damn useless timer to the number of players Qing so that we can launch the damn thing earlier.
I absolutely agree the timer should be changed to something more encouraging.
But I have never understood why it takes North America getting home from work and school to kick FW off.
A substantial percentage of the player base is European so what gives?
FW is available 24 hours. I wish the Euros would get their shiite together.
Europe always needs the US to bail them out, even in DUST FW.
Zing!
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
1074
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Posted - 2015.04.08 20:34:00 -
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I live in EU, I play FW only in the morning (when I can), the only time it is up...
Hopefully for the weekend I might be able to get in some FW matches in the evening aswell, like in the previous LP event.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1625
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Posted - 2015.04.08 20:47:00 -
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Francois Sanchez wrote:As usual there is no FW games running at decent timings for Europe CCP could you please finally change the damn useless timer to the number of players Qing so that we can launch the damn thing earlier.
The bright side is that events are usually for data mining and changes follow thereafter. I think they want to see what happens when people actually want to play FW.
Because, that's why.
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
189
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Posted - 2015.04.08 21:29:00 -
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FW has been up tonight for a couple of hours so far -hopefully a sign of interest for the event! |
Templar XIII
135
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Posted - 2015.04.08 22:14:00 -
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What makes it even worse, some FW like Amarr is sucky to the extreme from monday to friday, only weekends kinda has them see some few wins. Partly because despite buffs, amarr tech is still perceived as inferior in performance, therefore less desired by the organized masses.
I know this sounds kind of heretic given the last AScr buff, but Iam talking the whole spectrum: suit speeds, stamina regeneration, weapons, their spectrum of usage (CR, ACR, MD, SMG, FL, RE) and their ease of use w/o any downsides at all, suit bonuses and versatility (Minmando, MinAss), Repair tool vs. drop uplinks. Its not about clear OP criterias, there are none that deserve the term obvious or extreme, it is about gear spectrum, versatility and perception. And perception seems basically unchanged no matter the buffs.
Quite to the contrary: the damage buff to AScr has made this weapon easier to handle for all other but AmAss suits thereby further devaluated it and it's bonus: GåÆ AmAss is less desirable now, GåÆ AmLogistics always inferior to MinLogi bonus and bonus-bug (bonus application loss after death) wise, GåÆ AmCommando a joke due to lack of versatility, GåÆ AmScout useless as ever.
This leads to Amarr LP and standings gain to be nothing but painful day in, day out and nothing to make this pain worthwhile.This whole LP event is a bad joke for AFW.
Apologies for the whining, but AFW does not get any better with the years, and it feels as if CCP does not care at all. This is massively frustrating.
Iam doing AFW mainly for lore and fandom reasons. Pubs are a necessary evil to get by. This is not the rule for most other FWers, and I can't blame them. Simply wished CCP found a way to make Amarr FW attractive...somehow. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18066
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Posted - 2015.04.08 22:22:00 -
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Templar XIII wrote:What makes it even worse, some FW like Amarr is sucky to the extreme from monday to friday, only weekends kinda has them see some few wins. Partly because despite buffs, amarr tech is still perceived as inferior in performance, therefore less desired by the organized masses.
I know this sounds kind of heretic given the last AScr buff, but Iam talking the whole spectrum: suit speeds, stamina regeneration, weapons, their spectrum of usage (CR, ACR, MD, SMG, FL, RE) and their ease of use w/o any downsides at all, suit bonuses and versatility (Minmando, MinAss), Repair tool vs. drop uplinks. Its not about clear OP criterias, there are none that deserve the term obvious or extreme, it is about gear spectrum, versatility and perception. And perception seems basically unchanged no matter the buffs.
Quite to the contrary: the damage buff to AScr has made this weapon easier to handle for all other but AmAss suits thereby further devaluated it and it's bonus: GåÆ AmAss is less desirable now, GåÆ AmLogistics always inferior to MinLogi bonus and bonus-bug (bonus application loss after death) wise, GåÆ AmCommando a joke due to lack of versatility, GåÆ AmScout useless as ever.
This leads to Amarr LP and standings gain to be nothing but painful day in, day out and nothing to make this pain worthwhile.This whole LP event is a bad joke for AFW.
Apologies for the whining, but AFW does not get any better with the years, and it feels as if CCP does not care at all. This is massively frustrating.
Iam doing AFW mainly for lore and fandom reasons. Pubs are a necessary evil to get by. This is not the rule for most other FWers, and I can't blame them. Simply wished CCP found a way to make Amarr FW attractive...somehow.
Won every match Aero and I queued for yesterday which would have been about 6 or so battles. Also your assertion the Amarr Commando is useless if very very mistaken. They still remain the best Heavy Infantry option IMO in the game.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4335
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Posted - 2015.04.08 22:24:00 -
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Francois Sanchez wrote:I know CCP can't do anything about the players, but what they can do is removing that goddamn timer as some people are asking for months because it is a part of the problem. Many times I wanted to play FW there were enough players willing to participate to fill two games, but as they were seeing the 00:00 they didn't want to Q and wait. With the number of players Qing instead of that timer, they would realize they actually can play FW and Q up with the others. The problem with FW has always been starting the first game, once it's done there will always have enough players to keep going.
I'm also mad at CCP because they've let FW dying since 1.7, even if they increased the LP payouts and added interesting stuff in the LP store, they didn't do anything to solve the core problems. I know, i'm requesting this from a long time, but you know...
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Templar XIII
135
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Posted - 2015.04.08 22:35:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: Won every match Aero and I queued for yesterday which would have been about 6 or so battles. Also your assertion the Amarr Commando is useless if very very mistaken. They still remain the best Heavy Infantry option IMO in the game.
Iam on the whole week, not just yesterday, and most matches are simply losses, horrendous losses. Your assertion of Ammando is based on what again? Minmando has more weapon versatility (CR, ACR, MD, MissileLauncher), much better speed and regeneration. Same for GalAssault. Only other suit slightly as bad is Cal-Commando, though it still has more weapon range-versatility (SniperRifle, RR, ARR). And it is not your opinion alone that counts and has AFW on the losing side most times, it is the aggregated opinions of all FW players that decide over organized spuad participation. One or two q-syncing Amarr squads over one evening in the week are not even close to an argument against 7-8 minmatar squads q-syncing all evening. But thank you for your attempt at giving me some kind of a heads up. It is dearly needed . |
LOOKMOM NOHANDS
495
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Posted - 2015.04.09 05:57:00 -
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Francois Sanchez wrote:As usual there is no FW games running at decent timings for Europe CCP could you please finally change the damn useless timer to the number of players Qing so that we can launch the damn thing earlier.
Im sure that there will be a flood of activity that will get you guys going at a reasonable time. I know there are many corps already planning on early jump starts. |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
1588
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Posted - 2015.04.09 11:54:00 -
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All week I have been getting into FW around 8pm UK (UTC/GMT+1).
Today I expect to get into FW around 5pm UK. We shall see.
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
1588
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Posted - 2015.04.09 11:56:00 -
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Templar XIII wrote:Being EU timezone and AFW is twofold painful. Getting at least one of these addressed would be a blessing.
So, which is it? Are you moving to the states, or switching factions? LOL.
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
1588
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Posted - 2015.04.09 12:29:00 -
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If you want to get it started earlier you have to convince people to queue up. There are enough of us wanting earlier games, if we had 2-3 reps for each faction that all gather up a squad to queue everyday at an agreed time (say 4-5pm EVE), it could set a precedent. After a few days of success you'd just have to spread the word, theoretically.
I have seen people trying to kickstart FW many times, some successful, some not. I think the key is having regular squad leaders who are always on and can get the ball rolling every day.
Who here from the EU has a corp (or group of friends) that would benefit from earlier FW opening times? Get together and we can fix this ourselves.
If we want to get up and running earlier during this event (and in future) I suggest we organise mass queueing every day.
For the duration of the event, I will be residing in the chat channel: FW Kickstarter
It would help if all FW Squad Leaders (and soloists) join the chat so we can coordinate queueing.
Sidenote: I have long wondered why the players/corps who are advocates of bringing back Corp Battles don't just queue sync against each other during "FW downtime".... Just because of no ISK payout?
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Ras Orloc
Bloody Palm Militia
43
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Posted - 2015.04.09 12:36:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:If you want to get it started earlier you have to convince people to queue up. There are enough of us wanting earlier games, if we had 2-3 reps for each faction that all gather up a squad to queue everyday at an agreed time (say 4-5pm EVE), it could set a precedent. After a few days of success you'd just have to spread the word, theoretically.
I have seen people trying to kickstart FW many times, some successful, some not. I think the key is having regular squad leaders who are always on and can get the ball rolling every day.
Who here from the EU has a corp (or group of friends) that would benefit from earlier FW opening times? Get together and we can fix this ourselves.
If we want to get up and running earlier during this event (and in future) I suggest we organise mass queueing every day. For the duration of the event, I will be residing in the chat channel: FW Kickstarter
It would help if all FW Squad Leaders (and soloists) join the chat so we can coordinate queueing.
Sidenote: I have long wondered why the players/corps who are advocates of bringing back Corp Battles don't just queue sync against each other during "FW downtime".... Just because of no ISK payout?
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