Why do you feel a particular need to cap? Why not just get somewhere around the old cap value, if that feels right, and then move on to another character?

A lot of veterans are running out of things to skill into. I don't really have any pressing need for SP anymore. I'm hoping we can get some new things into the game soon.

To me, the motivation to play should be "fun", not "skill points". If we're not delivering fun, we've got more work to do.

I think I can understand that to a certain degree, though its a matter of perception.

In many respects players bought Boosters because they knew the could cap and get the most bang for their buck.Now it takes days of constant playing to cap (I'm never able to cap even at 180K) so if players cannot max out their SP buying boosters is somewhat perceived as a waste even if total SP gains are greater than that standard 180K + Booster.

Why do you feel a particular need to cap? Why not just get somewhere around the old cap value, if that feels right, and then move on to another character?

A lot of veterans are running out of things to skill into. I don't really have any pressing need for SP anymore. I'm hoping we can get some new things into the game soon.

To me, the motivation to play should be "fun", not "skill points". If we're not delivering fun, we've got more work to do.

I have all but stopped playing this game since 1.9 dropped. There is no motivation to grind away as i did in previous builds since there is no benefit to doing so without investment in boosters. Where previously a 3-5 hour per night play time would allow me to cap one charactor and a little time to develope a second, I now see no way to cap without a monitary investment or a drastic increase in my person time. Both options are out of the question for me. Couple this with having to personally manage myself though another cycle of nerf/buff and my ability to get excited enough to engage is all but spent.

To be honest, i was struggling for direction just before the update as nothing seemed sexy enough to invest sp into. A crossroads of having max skilled everything to support my primary & secondary roles, if you will.

Open for comments. What are your motivations to play? What goals are you working toward & what effect did 1.9 have on those?

I felt the same way , not that I played all that much before but after I respected ... my plan was to play about as much as I did when I first started , well not that much but more then I have been but when 1.9 dropped and I used a Omega and noticed it wasn't paying out 100% , that made me shy away from playing ... that and the SP payout has been decreased so it seems .

I would cap in like two or three days and now I know that's not happening and I'm not wasting another booster until they fix whatever the problems are with there payout because it seems kinda off in a sense and not paying out as much as it previously been .

Looking at all those SP's and knowing that I wont come close , even with a booster active has been a turn off indeed and I'm not wasting money stacking if there not paying out the way that they have been .

I'm not one of these people who pour money at this game like water on a fire .

I'm not getting what I pay for now so that's even more a moot point and a waste .

Fix what's wrong with the boosters not paying out properly and fix the SP payout and I will be right back at it and might just buy more boosters but right now , that seems like such a waste to me .

Boosters are working perfectly fine.

I explained to you in a different thread where you were complaining about this why you were confused about your Omega booster SP calculation.

I guess you didn't bother to read it and I'll be damned if I'm gonna repeat myself for the likes of you.

Edit : Really I'm not here for anyone to like , I'm here to play the game , kill people like yourself and TEABAG you once I stand over your corpse .

Contrary to what the forum trolls say boosters DO NOT make you cap out faster. As Soraya stated if it is a problem for you just get down to 500k remaining and be done with it.

I think the real problem here is you are acting like this is Eve and you benefit highly from 2 characters. I am about 90% convinced that staying dedicated to one character benefits you FAR more here in Dust.

I think I can understand that to a certain degree, though its a matter of perception.

In many respects players bought Boosters because they knew the could cap and get the most bang for their buck. Now it takes days of constant playing to cap (I'm never able to cap even at 180K) so if players cannot max out their SP buying boosters is somewhat perceived as a waste even if total SP gains are greater than that standard 180K + Booster.

Why do you feel a particular need to cap? Why not just get somewhere around the old cap value, if that feels right, and then move on to another character?

A lot of veterans are running out of things to skill into. I don't really have any pressing need for SP anymore. I'm hoping we can get some new things into the game soon.

To me, the motivation to play should be "fun", not "skill points". If we're not delivering fun, we've got more work to do.

The reality of the situation is simple. You want every piece of edge you can find. From daily log ins to SP capping, the activity of undertaking those tasks directs to a gamer who wants every opportunity afforded to him or her.

To be competitive, skill points matter. To being versatile, skill points matter. Missing out on available SP means you're behind the ball by a couple of days.

Developers know this. Why microtransactions thrive on games like this and others, which gives you the option to wait 24 hours or pay now to get the access to this.

Lets be honest as well. Most dont play this game just for fun. You want fun, go to COD. People play this for the highly competitive atmosphere, watching leaderboards as the mark they aim for and test themselves against.

This game is a secondhand job to many, spending countless hours embedding themselves into the universe. Developers also know that.

"Fun" games are on Wii U.

I would agree with this. Well put.

You sound less stressed these days, Michael. Things going well?

Me? I'm just as angry as ever.

I think quite the opposite actually. If you capped and still had a booster running, you basically wasted whatever time was left on that booster since the additional benefit you get from it is negligible post-cap.With a higher cap, it makes it more likely that your booster will run out before your cap, meaning you gained the full benefit the booster had to offer.

I mean think about it, ignore the fact that there is a cap for a second. You will play a certain amount every day for 7 days each week. Your purchase a booster that will last for those 7 days. If there is no cap, you will guaranteed get 100% benefit from that booster has to offer. Now assume that your playing habits don't change, but you cap out on day 5. Now your booster is running for 2 days while you're still playing on day 6 and 7, but offering little benefit, so you've now wasted 2 days of booster.

It is 100% perception and the fact that people used capping as sort of goal to reach for. Once they reached the cap, they felt they were accomplished for the week and could stop playing. The fact of of the matter is that the average person's playing habits did not increase in 1.9 to meet the higher cap, so even though they're getting *the exact same amount of benefit as they were before* (if not more for those who played after cap in the past), they feel like they're getting less because they fail to reach that goal of capping for the week.

In other words, your earning potential went up, your boosters are effectively increased in value for those who used to cap out every week, and any sense of "less benefit" is completely in your head. Oye....people cry for removal of the SP cap and when thy basically do that, people still are dissatisfied. Goes to show it's impossible to make everyone happy.

I have all but stopped playing this game since 1.9 dropped. There is no motivation to grind away as i did in previous builds since there is no benefit to doing so without investment in boosters. Where previously a 3-5 hour per night play time would allow me to cap one charactor and a little time to develope a second, I now see no way to cap without a monitary investment or a drastic increase in my person time. Both options are out of the question for me. Couple this with having to personally manage myself though another cycle of nerf/buff and my ability to get excited enough to engage is all but spent.

To be honest, i was struggling for direction just before the update as nothing seemed sexy enough to invest sp into. A crossroads of having max skilled everything to support my primary & secondary roles, if you will.

Open for comments. What are your motivations to play? What goals are you working toward & what effect did 1.9 have on those?