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Posted - 2014.08.29 00:26:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Assault SMGs will be nerfed in Hotfix Charlie. ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png)
You mean Delta? Probably should be, smgs right now tend to outshine any other sidearm. |
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Posted - 2014.08.29 00:54:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:I personally think the Ion Pistol needs a bit of a damage buff to compensate for it's high recoil (making it effectively sidearm with the hishest DPS), and the Flaylock Pistol to have a slight splash damage buff, a big direct damage buff, and for the projectile to fly faster. EDIT: The Bolt Pistol needs higher damage.
I think the bolt has plenty of damage personally, I think the biggest thing is that its PG needs to be dropped... I mean 11 PG at std level? WTF? Flaylock 0 PG, and the ScR and Ion I think use 2....
Everything else I agree except for a splash damage buff on flaylocks. I think they should just do a little more direct damage and have a faster projectile. I think it should remain as a weapon that only really rewards direct hits, but I want it to be a little faster and a little more direct damage. |
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Posted - 2014.08.29 02:08:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This discussion is taking place in the Feedback forum. Noone is nerfing anything to the ground.
They all are CQC styled weapons. I mean even my bolt pistol doesn't really do much to a target that is far enough away to make use of its zoom. To be honest, I never thought there was an issue with sidearms as a whole, just the flaylock was nerfed into the ground and the ion pistol like many things released in 1.8 seemed to be a bon voyage from the other devs. Not really play tested, just hastily thrown together before they ran away to work on Legion.
I think smgs are fine. I think what needs to be reviewed is the hasty fixes to ScP and flaylock pistols, along with the hastily incorporated ion pistol and bolt pistol. In my opionion, the flaylock pistol should be faster flying, people shouldn't be able to side step a rocket, that alone would make it useful if it didn't take 2 seconds for it to reach its maximum range. The ion pistol really just shouldn't have the overheat gimmic. If that was removed and you could spam fire it, the weapon as it is with the horrible dispersion would still be good enough to use. That charge shot is useless, it just should be scrapped as it was half assed implemented. The ScP in my opinion again, is alright where it is. With the huge head shot bonus it deserved a RoF nerf. Before that happened it was pretty easy to run a pistoleer build as I would call it that could spam shot until it got dat head shot KO. The magsec counter to the opinions of many is my preferred smg. That thing can wreck targets once you get used to the recoil. My forge fit cannot count the amount of kills I've received via magsec. Nova Knives are Nova Knives and with the new adhesion are fine. Last but certainly not least (ho ho cliche!) The bolt pistol just needs a non asinine pistol fitting cost. The PG is stupidly high at 11. It should be 2 like the ScP and Ion pistol. |
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Posted - 2014.08.29 03:10:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:This discussion is taking place in the Feedback forum. Noone is nerfing anything to the ground. They all are CQC styled weapons. I mean even my bolt pistol doesn't really do much to a target that is far enough away to make use of its zoom. To be honest, I never thought there was an issue with sidearms as a whole, just the flaylock was nerfed into the ground and the ion pistol like many things released in 1.8 seemed to be a bon voyage from the other devs. Not really play tested, just hastily thrown together before they ran away to work on Legion. I think smgs are fine. I think what needs to be reviewed is the hasty fixes to ScP and flaylock pistols, along with the hastily incorporated ion pistol and bolt pistol. In my opionion, the flaylock pistol should be faster flying, people shouldn't be able to side step a rocket, that alone would make it useful if it didn't take 2 seconds for it to reach its maximum range. The ion pistol really just shouldn't have the overheat gimmic. If that was removed and you could spam fire it, the weapon as it is with the horrible dispersion would still be good enough to use. That charge shot is useless, it just should be scrapped as it was half assed implemented. The ScP in my opinion again, is alright where it is. With the huge head shot bonus it deserved a RoF nerf. Before that happened it was pretty easy to run, a pistoleer build as I would call it with the unique snowflake that I am, that could spam shot until it got dat head shot KO. The magsec counter to the opinions of many is my preferred smg. That thing can wreck targets once you get used to the recoil. My forge fit cannot count the amount of kills I've received via magsec. Nova Knives are Nova Knives and with the new adhesion are fine. Last but certainly not least (ho ho cliche!) The bolt pistol just needs a non asinine pistol fitting cost. The PG is stupidly high at 11. It should be 2 like the ScP and Ion pistol. The PG is fine. Just lower the CPU. It should be the opposide of the flaylock. High PG, but low CPU. It would allow for different builds with it.
But 11 PG is ******* massive in comparison to 19 CPU. If that were the case the Flaylock should take up about 60 CPU. |
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