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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1984
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:20:00 -
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You know how some people advocate the idea of purchasable respecs? What if instead, CCP decided to sell skill level resets?
By this, I don't mean an entire reset of a single skill, but instead a reset of 1 level up to a maximum of 5. Say I have Combat Rifle Operations to V. If I were to buy one skill level reset and use it, I'd be able to get 310,900 SP back and my CR Operations would drop to IV.
Just for an example, CCP could make money on this if they were to price them at 12,000 Aurum for a Dropsuit Command skill level reset, 10,000 Aurum for a Dropsuit Upgrades skill level reset, 8,000 Aurum for a Weaponry skill level reset, etc. U.S. currency wise, this would translate into roughly $6, $5, and $4 per level reset.
If a player wanted to spec out of something because he or she had made some mistakes early on in his or her Dust career, then CCP could earn up to $30 just for one full reset of a single skill. Let's assume I had Ion Pistol Operations at V and Proficiency at IV and wanted those skill points back to spend them on something more useful. I'd have to spend $55 to have them all cleared, and I'd be perfectly fine with that.
In all, I'm not even sure if this is a good idea--it sort of just popped into my head after spending 30+ minutes looking at my skill tree. But what do you guys think? Could this actually work? Would you be willing to spend this amount of money? |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1984
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:28:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:Or they just hand out respecs because SP planning in this game is totally bullshit with the massive nerf hammer swings, no timetable for content and a backlog of stuff were already waiting on So... you don't think it's a good idea then? |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1984
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:37:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:I like the idea that has appeared here on the forum many times. 3 problems : 1some will scream "PAY TO WIN UAAAAAAA! 2 other will scream" LIVE WITH YOUR DECISIONS UAAAAAAA! 3 your prices are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to high! 1. It's not so much pay to win, but rather an option that lets players make some corrections. This also relates to your third point. Having these high prices is actually good. Would players really fork over $90 at a time, just to have 3 skills reset? Nope, but having the option to get a few thousand SP back from having only spent $30 seems more reasonable.
2. We can still live with those decisions, especially if we were to fudge up our skill investment a second time around. If I skilled out of Ion Pistols to go into Plasma Cannons, then that's all on me. I'd have to live with that or decide if I'd want to spend another $30+ to make even more corrections. Personally, I'd live with that decision.
3. They're reasonable to me. Lol |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1986
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Posted - 2014.04.30 13:39:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Nope.
Make the game better teach people how to invest their points. Considering that most of the people who will post in this thread have also posted in threads bitching and moaning about FotM dominating everything, do you really want a built in means of ensuring that ONLY FotM will ever be used?
And don't give me that limp-**** excuse of "well it wouldn't be a problem if CCP made everything balanced". You're always going to have imbalance as long as you keep updating the game, same as you're always going to have nerfs and buffs because the dynamics are always changing.
If you get one respec every six months, someone is going to spec into the FotM, then it gets fixed, so they just stop playing the game entirely until their next respec comes up where they then do it again.
That sounds like a GREAT idea. This has nothing to do with FotM and you should feel bad for bringing it up. Also, nothing you mentioned addresses my idea, so what the heck are you going on about bi-yearly respecs for?
Anyway, FotM requires two main components: a dropsuit and a weapon. If a player wanted to reset his dropsuit skills, that would take anywhere from $30 to $40+ in refunded SP from skill resets. The weapon would be another $25 to $40.
Do you think players would actually invest that type of money just to skill into an FotM whilst ridding themselves of "potential FotMs" knowing that changes are always made? I doubt it. Purchasing boosters would still be the better alternative. Also, would this not be a good source of revenue for CCP if there were players who would be willing to spend that type of money?
The reason I presented this idea, as stated above, is to give players the option to make minor corrections, thus the reasoning behind the high prices and effect of only refunding SP for one skill level.
You're making it sound as if I'm suggesting a cheap pay to win option to buy full respecs--which I am not.
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1986
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:10:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:It's got to be more expensive then the boosters you would buy to skill up into whatever is competitive (FOTM usually.)
Why would they let you get back SP from X, that they intentionally nerf to get you to buy boosters to skill something else, only so you can buy a reset to skill into Y (read OP?)
So for them it's got to be more than the price of 2 monthly boosters. Probably more.
If you see CCP eventually provide resets for AUR you know the game is dying and in a last ditch effort to pull whatever money they can before they pull the plug. So, to reset one level on Plasma Cannons, you want me to spend double the amount I would spend on a monthly booster? Let me repeat that, ONE LEVEL.
Again, I'm not saying that SP resets should apply to the whole entire skill, just one fraction of it. There are 5 parts to every skill right?
Also, there really is nothing preventing someone from continuing to purchase boosters. If I wanted to take my SP away from level 2 on Shield rechargers and level 3 on shield regulation, that'd be about $25 if following the prices I listed. How much SP would I get back? About 328,000 SP.
How much is it for a monthly booster? Around $7 right? So compared to $7 for 400,000 newly gained SP, $25 for 328,000 "RECYCLED SP" is asking too little according to you.
Do you see what I'm trying to get at? Not only is it profitable for CCP, but it discourages anyone from trying to buy "full respecs" as prices can skyrocket into the hundreds. |
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