Cotsy8
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Posted - 2014.03.31 22:15:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:From my perspective scout assassins with the cloak have leveled the playing field.
I got taken out by shotty scouts just as easily before the cloak. I easily get blindsided by things in this game.
Now with the cloak though scouts are willing to jump down in front of me to get others when before I didn't see them chance that. Also, due to the shimmer I am seeing them better because they stand out better. If not that much shimmer then I still see them because they are hanging out in front of me rather than constantly moving to stay behind or out of sight.
So, the rest of you are now experiencing what I was dealing with before the cloak and I am better dealing with them like others were able to before.
Also, I am the scout. Muhahaha. Though thank your stars I suck at the shotty assassin thing and usually try to run as a light assault, logi, hack what have you.
You have made an argument against cloaks than for them. You have acknowledge cloaks are rewarding poor gameplay (jumping down in front of you, attacking you from the front, hanging out in front) and if you can see cloaks just as well non-cloaked then whats the point?!
Then you acknowledge how its easier for up you and that you're now a shotgun assassin. Hmmm, that's not what scouts are suppose to be. So you've provided yet another reason to remove cloaks.
I don't even need to argue with you how cloaks are low risk, high reward with no drawback. They rewards poor gameplay, Diminish the amount of skill required to be a successful scout. Or even tell you how they rewards poor choices, reward a players lack of map awareness, or even reward a players patience or pathing or strategy ... Etc...
So i guess you are now in favor of removing cloaks, you have the arguments you're just too stupid to see you're sitting on the wrong side with your conclusion. |
Cotsy8
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.04.01 01:56:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Cotsy8 wrote:
Then you acknowledge how its easier for up you and that you're now a shotgun assassin. Hmmm, that's not what scouts are suppose to be. So you've provided yet another reason to remove cloaks.
I don't even need to argue with you how cloaks are low risk, high reward with no drawback. They rewards poor gameplay, Diminish the amount of skill required to be a successful scout. Or even tell you how they rewards poor choices, reward a players lack of map awareness, or even reward a players patience or pathing or strategy ... Etc...
So i guess you are now in favor of removing cloaks, you have the arguments you're just too stupid to see you're sitting on the wrong side with your conclusion.
Wow first day back in the forums and i have to read this big wall of Bulls***. -' 'Then you acknowledge how its easier for up you and that you're now a shotgun assassin.''Well of course, its easier for us Scouts/shotgun assassins to move now with cloak, so yeah, it IS easier. But we did it before WITHOUT cloaks, you are just mad we have something you dont.-''I don't even need to argue with you how cloaks are low risk, high reward with no drawback.'' LOW RISK HIGH REWARD? you talk as if cloaking meant invisibility.PLUS Claoking is not something CPU/PG light, its actually very hard to fit, EVEN on scouts. If you have poor eyesight like myself, get GLASSES. The Cloak help scouts and further increase the ''STEALTH'' purpose of them. -''They rewards poor gameplay, ''POOR Game play? Running people over with a car is poor game-play. Tanking a heavy and go sniping with it is poor game-play. Running in 6 man Tank squads is POOR GAMING. A Cloaked Scout is not Poor game-play. TRUE SCOUTS have been owning your asses with scouts since the beginning of time, now because we have an advantage then we have POOR GAMEPLAY? Most people saying that ; are salty, thats all. Running around in 280 HP and going 30+ kills per game with 5 or less kills TAKES A GOOD PLAYER, regardless of cloaking. Most players like myself were having good scores before 1.8, Cloaking just gives us more options.Cloaks SHOULD not be EVER removed or nerfed. Period.If someone is having problems with it, quit dust. Go play CoD or something....Cloaks are here to stay.
You're a ******* moron, your argument against easy mode is to say i have it and you're jealous?! Aren't you middle school material.
I'm a Scout shotgun user myself, so I can see how the cloaks have turned a whole bunch of struggling scouts into dominating forces. Do they gameplay dictate such an increase in "skill, no. Just because you struggled in previous patches doesn't mean you deserve such an easy mode or advantage to your **** gameplay. If you Can't use strategy to sneak up, well use a cloak. Aren't aware of your surroundings, use a cloak. Most scout struggled but now its nothing but easy mode, you love it, all scouts do.. But it isn't fair or balanced to reward **** gameplay and lower the punishment for mistakes.
You're argument is that you should be rewarded for easy mode because they cost some CPU/PG?? Its 82 and 17, hardly difficult to equip for a lv5 scout. Do you really think paying for easy mode is the answer!
"Eyes are OP" is not a valid argument.
True scouts owning your ass, please, you're just a little ***** who can't excel without your CCP crutches. Slaying with a cape doesn't take a good player, it takes a cloak and your Logi scanner.
If you were good before 1.8, then you should be happy scouts received an bonus equipment slot, as well as two new classes (flexibility and more varied roles(, plus additional modules (one low and one high) on previously released suits. If you were so good, and received boosts, then why do you need a cloak to be competitive, the answer is you do not.
Cloaks should never be removed, go turn on easy mode you little *****. Tired of struggling as a scout, well you got significant class boosts and an easy mode equipment. Turn it on and it limits your mistakes and provides offensive advantages for poor decisions and gameplay.
You probably couldn't hack it in CoD or CS or BF, so you went to find a game where it gives you massive ad ranges dictated by SP and not necessarily skill. Hide out in games where the elite is determined by SP and not skill, go hide in a game where it's nearly impossible for low SP players to kill someone simply based on his Skill Points and not skill.
The only reason cloaks are here to stay is little ***** scouts who are so happy they got easy mode, now they won't struggle but excel without any increase in skill. Turn on cloak, get better.. Seems easy enough. You can take your crutches from your visit to the CCP hospital and enjoy your low risk, high reward bulllshit. Cloaks are here cause scouts are self interested and don't want to return to balanced mode.
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Cotsy8
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Posted - 2014.04.01 02:20:00 -
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Yea, you still haven't provided any valid reasons or justification for a cloak except that you require one.
The new slot, the new classes, and the second equipment slot is quite the opposite to pigeon holing.
Not to say that a Min scout wouldn't require to hack or use NK to get their bonus, which is a pigeon hole. But there are so many options for scouts that with or without a cloak they should be able to accomplish.
Scouts can go 25+ and 5- without a cloak, the highly skilled players can put up highly skilled scores. But to provide players who poor gameplay and decision making on a fragile suit with such scores is ridiculous. |