Buster Friently wrote:Cotsy8 wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Cotsy8 wrote: I don't understand the incredible complexities offered by the EVE universe but those who do are bad because they see tactical advantages that I do not.
Tell an EVE pilot that cloaks serve no purpose and watch them petition to have you banned from their forums.
Ill say it as I did yesterday.
Awareness is OP, nerf eyesight.
This isn't EVE. This is a FPS. The only relation between games is the developer. You cannot apply things from EVE to a FPS game as a justification for anything. Applying a cloak into a game which doesnt need it, a class which doesn't require it is uncalled for and only creates unbalance and bbullshit.
You never disputed anything about cloaks, they usefulness or ability to dominate. My argument clearly shows that the cloak removes awareness. There's no reason to double check before waking in open, or hacking, or climbing. Cloak and make stupid decisions and they work out. Thats bulkshit. Learn how to play properly and take the right paths. Make the right decisions knowing you're a low eHP class and can't be caught in the open.
Of scouts want to be the new slayer Logi, thats unfortunate. It shouldn't be the case, scout shouldn't have 6 k/d. They should use movement and strategy and kill to get kills and hack objectives.
New Eden. Shared universe. Shared lore.
Also, the developers aren't really the same. Eve is developed by CCP Iceland, whereas Dust is developed by CCP Shanghai. They are very different outfits it seems.
Also, expect more stuff to come to Dust. Dust will need new content. Dust will need creative new content to survive, and this will mean mining the Eve/New Eden lore.
Perhaps you should look elsewhere?
You can keep your lore and your ridiculous story lines. If you want to play dust its not because you greatly care about made up bullshit. You play a game for enjoyment, challenge, and sometimes to kill time or frustration. It's not much to ask that the game be without too many bugs or lag or crashes. It's not too much to ask that gameplay be balanced and competitive for all. It's not too much to ask that the game should be kept in check by its players.
When something gets introduced and its clearly unfair, unbalanced, not required and not needed to maintain a competitive gameplay for scouts then players should be upset. I am a scout, been one since open beta, never have I've seen such a ridiculous thing as cloaks. There's no reason for them. 1.8 introduced a buff to scouts (new classes, more slots etc) so why introduced a cloak to a class which doesn't require it, maybe all these scouts who saw slayer Logi expect scouts to be thst way, i don't know. Maybe all the scouts who weren't strategic and didn't wait for opportune times to flank and get the drop on opponents feel the cloak is the only answer to their poor gameplay, i don't know. But as a scout, i am saying there is no need for a cloak.
There is a link between EVE but it cannot and shouldn't not be introduced unless its required/balanced. In this specific case, the scout do not need cloaks to excel nor should they need an excuse to cover up poor gameplay and positioning.
Dust needs new content, there's plenty of great threads with suggestions. There are plenty of billion dollar FPS games to look at. There are so many great ideas even from CCP concerning weapons and grenades and vehicles. This specific cloaking equipment was a cool idea, but it isn't required. Scouts shouldn't need it to cover their mistakes, and if you wanted to add something to the scouts arsenal there were good ideas about gun silencers to make class more stealthy, or smoke/flash bangs which other games use to help scouts out slightly in their roles.
A cloak isn't required and i feel that scouts should reconcile the lack of need and the lack of balance it creates. It covers for many short coming, improves things that shouldn't need addressing due to poor gameplay or lack of awareness. Yet all i see are scout defending the cloak much like tankers defend the tank. Most of us had it rough so why when we get it OP can't we recognize it?! Why can't scouts just admit its not required t excel and reject it for the good of the game? Don't act like tankers, don't act like a class oblivious to its role/impact/balance/needs. Scout should be better because we've had it rough and should stand up and say cloaks are required, take them away, let's keep our extra equipment slot and we will excel regardless.