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Posted - 2014.03.14 14:08:00 -
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Spero Escrow Service? Damn I didn't know Kane had pilots guarding his dust wallet?
no wonder its such a reliable service!
even spacenoobs cant hax dem sh1ts
#noonecaresaboutEVEtardDraMa
although I must be getting old cause I know none of this was the case just last night when we were beating on AE.
I now have to go reprimand my child for picking the wrong week to be an unhappy toddler cutting his first molar.
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Posted - 2014.03.14 14:12:00 -
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man this sux. now all this EVEtard talk makin me wanna get a ship just to crash 1 of these intergalactic keggers
sounds like fun.
Im curious tho, what kinds of strategies are involved?
'u hit F1'
'no YOU hit F1'
'ok lets hit F1 at the same time'
seriously tho, I AM curious, what goes on?
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Posted - 2014.03.14 14:25:00 -
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ok well this makes some sense at least
thx Xero.
of course me finding out on the LoL forums before anywhere else is a bit....disturbing, but hey a man needs his sleep
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Posted - 2014.03.14 15:04:00 -
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XEROO COOL wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:ok well this makes some sense at least
thx Xero.
of course me finding out on the LoL forums before anywhere else is a bit....disturbing, but hey a man needs his sleep I was unfortunately up last night at 5 eve time to do these battles... the lack of sleep is killing be now but I hope you look as fresh as a daisy. Sota was on the other side along with about 8 or 9 NF members that I saw. I don't know why TSO is stopping orbs for NF... i was just assuming this was why... you know what happens when you assume right? Most of what I have is speculation... so take it with a grain of salt..... I leave it to my leaders to tell me where to march... I am sure yall will work something out... or you won't... either way I will keep shooting people in the head as much as possible.
who knows the reasons. 1 thing ive learned is backroom talks eve-side bring on a whole new meaning to the life of a dust merc.
I know ive personally had to smooth things over a few times with pilots, every time over pretty simple things imo.
1 thing I DO know tho, never wise to attempt to strongarm the 1 organization that has remained at or near the top of the food chain since this game was put on a playstation...
just sayin. NF had 1 thing going with FA, was actually working pretty well (yes I said it), but the constant tomfoolery, and unprofessionalism appears to have finally reached its current endpoint.
Like I said before, I know there were communications issues from our side at times as well, so im not pointing any fingers. I still don't know any real details, but I have gotten confirmation that our NAP is officially at an end, and that TSO was paid their fee (yes, we were HELPING them yet had to PAY them as well... go figure why this ended up fizzling out) through the end of this week, which actually is more than we could rightfully have paid, but ending the NAP on good professional terms was more important to some (not me, had I done this you wouldn't be QQ now over us showing up in a match, you woulda gotten the message in a completely different way), but this is why we discuss and delegate things, trusting the judgment of multiple people.
yes crowd control always necessary doing it like that, but o well.. keeps us all on our toes.
I will soon find out specifics as well as what possibilities we can offer in regard to merc services.
1 final thing.. EVE support is just cool to have, it gives you a headstart on vehicle deployment, and also tends to help in clone attrition. but doesn't win games and if anyone relies on it to win games for them.. they've already lost.
you need ground troops. FA has ground troops, STB and ML have bodies, but they've been so busy locking for so long they don't even know how the game is played any more.
looking forward to some fresh meat!!
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Posted - 2014.03.14 15:33:00 -
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BursegSardaukar wrote:NAV HIV wrote:More Drama I suppose... CCP should let Dust side to have control over Alliance stuff. A lot of confusion and drama can be avoided that way.... Oh god no. Our dust guys can't even figure out EVE dates when it crosses midnight UTC.
trust me you aren't the only one in that boat lol
times sooo confusing, why they ever changed giving EXACT times for attackers is purely beyond me.
so many of our issues were simply due to bad mathZ.
reverse math is just stupid. ESPECIALLY when exact times WERE in the game BEFORE...
more CCP FAIL.
but what u gonna do
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Posted - 2014.03.14 15:34:00 -
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XEROO COOL wrote:BursegSardaukar wrote:NAV HIV wrote:More Drama I suppose... CCP should let Dust side to have control over Alliance stuff. A lot of confusion and drama can be avoided that way.... Oh god no. Our dust guys can't even figure out EVE dates when it crosses midnight UTC. math is hard...
no its not, but when counting in reverse, and the screen resetting on you constantly, and glitching up, and all the other issues that constantly arise in regard to the starmap, then add the human element of not being able to coherently pass on information at times...
makes for bumps in the road lol
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Posted - 2014.03.14 19:05:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Dr PepperPoP wrote:SoTa's PoP is not SoTa PoP, firstly. I tried making that alt some 4 months ago and it was already taken... lol
Secondly, GIANTS are some cool ass peeps. I love meta/politics, but when relations like these sours and friends become enemies I couldn't loath it more.
I enjoyed my time learning about EvE from Tso and talking and chilling with them as we set up contracts. If I could of avoided the bad relations I would of sold the entire drawer filled with SoxFours' Sox to do so.
Though I enjoy the idea of smashing FA and friends - I don't look forward to a worsened relation with Cookie, Arunis, and the others.
Sad day. :( You could've helped us team up on RA, and then we coulda duked it out afterwards. Why'd you do it man? Why'd you have to go cut the blue donut up like that?
we DID help you team up on RA... FA and NF were working on this and succeeding
here's the kicker... all that time, NF is taking **** from tso on the eve side. As ive said before there were communication snafus from both sides, multiple times, things that also noted here were hashed out and we all moved on.
Now I hear of crying over the isk... also laughable. sure the amount is laughable compared to eve isk.
But please, just for a second, look at it from our viewpoint. This is not a difficult thing to understand. Fiddle actually covered most bases.
We hire Tso's to provide eve support. no politics no nothing. Price is negotiated and we all go to work. Happy days.
some snags slow things, mostly communication issues, times, locations, not sent in a timely manner. Talks are made, tempers calmed, life back to normal.
Next, NF attacks a new tso member, whilst locking is prevalent across the board. Yes causes an issue (although seriously in all honesty.. I sent the attack, and only saw an 'online' district and jumped at it. nothing more).
so we have a Pow-Wow cooler heads (after SoTa is bound and gagged) prevail and life once again goes on, with the exception of the super secret handshake backroom under the table deal between FA and NF finally comes to light....
now tso expects this NAP to apply to all of them. Ok fine whatever no problem, but NF still pays Tso for support... so NF cant accept contracts against Tso, AND have to pay Tso for continued support... yea this is about the part of the story where you can start to see why we now are where we are..
Anyhoo, yes NF has and remains in talks with many groups in New Eden. We are mercenaries and are always looking ahead and not just stuck spinning wheels in the present.
NF was well aware of a certain 'contract' offered to members of Tso for the eradication of AE (as well as a separate contract for successful NS removal).
We made no mention of it, but after a couple weeks, it became quite apparent that NF was doing more than their fair share of working toward this contract that they knew nothing about (officially) and most certainly were not offered the added incentive (even a % of the contract) of being privy to said contract.
nothing was mentioned, and things continued, then some wise soul from the AE branch of RA reached out to NF (or was it the other way around? tbh I don't even know nor do I care) to open discussions of hiring the neutral NF who plays for who pays....(trademark pending)
Now, what you all DONT know... this 'deal' was struck prior to last night, and was agreed that it would NOT go in effect until Sunday, as we had paid for our Eve support through then.
Of course some other adolescent wannabe teen lookalike that had an estrogen-filled moment started flappin her gums (the wrong ones) about some of the details, and undoubtedly some people in Tso got wind of it (perhaps from the right gums?!?) and conveniently no-showed a contract on our behalf, vs AE. hanging us out to dry.
Message was delivered... and if this was not the intention, then sorry, but we got the message loud and clear.
Next night, we are STILL going after AE...even AFTER we have struck a deal with them. Deal not in effect yet, and we're still at each others throats. Tso shows up this time as contracted, and 2 more intense matches occur.
then of course the cat gets out of the bag last night because.. o yea, we got contracted to play for AE.
isk talks. our 'deal' isn't even in effect yet, and we have already been paid more and treated better in literally 1 night than our entire time working with tso.
DISCLAIMER: Ken and Himiko are absolute monsters and great people to work with. To be quite honest I am not speaking about Anything dust side in specific, as our working relationship with FA and our success combined in working AE is likely what led to this. Just too bad some people don't stay ahead of the game.
Here and now is for suckers. You wanna know whats gonna happen in 2 weeks, then you might be able to get on MY level. That's not arrogance.. that's how you play the real game in new eden.
So Ivar whateverdafuqyournameis. GG to you. we appreciate the support we paid for from Tso. I enjoyed working with you all, as my pilots gave me OBs which means you did your job.
We broke no agreement. We paid in full and voided the contract. I don't know the details as I wasn't there, but we can both go our separate ways and remain professionals. Both sides have something to learn from the experience, and hopefully both sides take something positive from it.
have a nice day
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Posted - 2014.03.14 19:39:00 -
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BursegSardaukar wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:Man ,look at GTA throwing around that smack talk.... That's all. Voodoo (Ivar) has been very enthusiastic about blowing up NF's ships in space and has been adamant about resetting them for the better part of a month now. I think he's just very happy that the day has come. Backroom deals are part of EVE and I never expected the NAP to last, but I think Voodoo feels vindicated for all the hate he's had towards NF. I'm altogether indifferent, just means there's going to be a couple more destroyers to shoot in MH. Edit: I shouldn't single Voodoo out, I think myself and c00kie were the only two trying to keep my entire fleet from following the mantra "shoot blues tell [c00kie]." It's just that Voodoo is one of the rare breed that is heavily invested in EVE and actually cares about Dust so he decided to post here.
pretty good TL;DR right there
works for me
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Posted - 2014.03.16 18:56:00 -
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Fiddlestaxp wrote:https://twitter.com/DUSTAlerts
Dust side results.
not to mention the game we're playing is Dust....
just throwin that out there
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