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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:13:00 -
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That is the question.
being a vet with 30mil SP affords me the ability to chase FOTM on an infinate loop from here on in as i have all my core skills maxed and can only really skill into extra dropsuits and weapons (and vehicles) from this point forwards.
traditionally i have always ended up playing purly minmatar, wich just happens to be the weakest race at the moment at in the future of 1.8 (for the msot part)
im also, to my own disbelief quite good at this game and my ability to perform at my best is now seriusly hampered by my suit and weapon selection most of the time.
im also fairly good at predicting FOTM and manipulating game mechanics to counter things.
so im at a crossroads, chase FOTM and use suits/weapons that alow me to compete with other people of equal skill also using FOTM or minmaxing or do i simply stop progressing skill wise in this game and stop trying to compete at that level and use sub-optimal builds effectivly handycapping myself for no aparent reason.
this is something thats really difficult because while on one hand i dislike the kind of mentality that one has to min max in extreme ways to gain every edge but on the other hand dust is so rediculasly imbalanced that it comes to a point where you cannot overcome that imbalance with skill alone leaving me in a situation where skill wiseif i simply skill into and use FOTM or counter FOTM i can easily dispatch with people who dont have the RL skills to back up the gear they are using.
dust isnt balanced enough to be able to overcome gear with skill and at this point im feeling that if i want to be able to compete and counter i have to play as dirty as they do.
This sucks. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:15:00 -
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Choose a platform that you can always return to regardless of nerfs, and then choose a platform from which you can spec FOTM with minimal investment and make it work.
This allows you to do what you want to do, and still remain competitive if the need requires it. |
Patrick57
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:15:00 -
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You're already FOTM with that Dropship :P
i can haz gooder grammur
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:18:00 -
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Use sub-optimal builds to harvest delicious tears for as long as you can. When you get too frustrated, pull out the FOTM for a bit and remind yourself that you're better. That's the cycle I use, at least. |
Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
689
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:21:00 -
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I know this is gonna sound crazy but you could just play what you like and FOTM be d*mned...
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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virgindestroyer7
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
540
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:23:00 -
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do you buy boosters Chance?
The extra SP you get from that will allow to to spec into FOTM and and side skill that you truly want to be your path.
I know what you mean though. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:39:00 -
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i already have my proto assault and logi minmatar suits....
math tells me that reguardless of nerfs the amount of SP you gain can always be saved and piled into whatever FOTM is next :P so nerfs dont scare any FOTM chaser that has as much SP as i do.
my problem is that im the type of person who spends 5 million SP on combat rifles.... no jokes i maxed it day 1 with the vehicle refund.
the real problem is that CCP cant balance worth a damn and show absolutly zero signs of being able to do so in the next 12 months. so EHP will always be king and its about to be heavys with light weapons 514 for about 3 months untill they do something about it.
i have enough SP to infinatly chase FOTM at this point, i just have an odd habbit of wanting to collect as many 5s as i can rather then skill into the bare minimum to make something work.
i think i have over 30 skills at level 5 right now. including hacking, biotics, LW operation, SA operation, Explosives, CPU, PG, shields, Armor, and every other core skill you can think of.
at this point the only think preventing me from stomping the living daylights out of people is my habbit of using something that isnt FOTM and constantly running around in basic suits and joke fits because i can, hell i ran around with a minmatar basic medium with 2x calas SMG yesterday jsut because i felt like it.
and dropships are useful but not a full time thing... patrick your always benched so how would you know how i fly :P |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1170
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:43:00 -
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also i love how i make a post like this in general and the people who respond are all people who know me from in game rather then the forums :P
love you guys ahaha |
Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
690
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:46:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:also i love how i make a post like this in general and the people who respond are all people who know me from in game rather then the forums :P
love you guys ahaha i dont think weve met in game...
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1170
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:48:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:also i love how i make a post like this in general and the people who respond are all people who know me from in game rather then the forums :P
love you guys ahaha i dont think weve met in game...
then your not invited to this party we are having :P
Just kidding you can come anyways. |
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1055
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:49:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:i already have my proto assault and logi minmatar suits....
math tells me that reguardless of nerfs the amount of SP you gain can always be saved and piled into whatever FOTM is next :P so nerfs dont scare any FOTM chaser that has as much SP as i do.
my problem is that im the type of person who spends 5 million SP on combat rifles.... no jokes i maxed it day 1 with the vehicle refund.
the real problem is that CCP cant balance worth a damn and show absolutly zero signs of being able to do so in the next 12 months. so EHP will always be king and its about to be heavys with light weapons 514 for about 3 months untill they do something about it.
i have enough SP to infinatly chase FOTM at this point, i just have an odd habbit of wanting to collect as many 5s as i can rather then skill into the bare minimum to make something work.
i think i have over 30 skills at level 5 right now. including hacking, biotics, LW operation, SA operation, Explosives, CPU, PG, shields, Armor, and every other core skill you can think of.
at this point the only think preventing me from stomping the living daylights out of people is my habbit of using something that isnt FOTM and constantly running around in basic suits and joke fits because i can, hell i ran around with a minmatar basic medium with 2x calas SMG yesterday jsut because i felt like it.
and dropships are useful but not a full time thing... patrick your always benched so how would you know how i fly :P That is so me it's fng scary. 38mil sp and proto Min and Cal assaults, I feel the same way. I have proto AR, CR, RR, all with full fives across the board, but still run the experimental fits as I call them cause I feel like it. Plus I don't want to be called a protostomping douche, cause I surely could.
And I have 1.7 mil unallocated waiting and building for 1.8, see ya there...
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
1008
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:51:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:That is the question.
being a vet with 30mil SP affords me the ability to chase FOTM on an infinate loop from here on in as i have all my core skills maxed and can only really skill into extra dropsuits and weapons (and vehicles) from this point forwards.
traditionally i have always ended up playing purly minmatar, wich just happens to be the weakest race at the moment at in the future of 1.8 (for the msot part)
im also, to my own disbelief quite good at this game and my ability to perform at my best is now seriusly hampered by my suit and weapon selection most of the time.
im also fairly good at predicting FOTM and manipulating game mechanics to counter things.
so im at a crossroads, chase FOTM and use suits/weapons that alow me to compete with other people of equal skill also using FOTM or minmaxing or do i simply stop progressing skill wise in this game and stop trying to compete at that level and use sub-optimal builds effectivly handycapping myself for no aparent reason.
this is something thats really difficult because while on one hand i dislike the kind of mentality that one has to min max in extreme ways to gain every edge but on the other hand dust is so rediculasly imbalanced that it comes to a point where you cannot overcome that imbalance with skill alone leaving me in a situation where skill wiseif i simply skill into and use FOTM or counter FOTM i can easily dispatch with people who dont have the RL skills to back up the gear they are using.
dust isnt balanced enough to be able to overcome gear with skill and at this point im feeling that if i want to be able to compete and counter i have to play as dirty as they do.
This sucks. You mean rifle on a gallogi, or any gallente suit for that matter, versus a shotgun on a min scout or min assault? Yeah, i feel you. On my 3 mil SP alt, i have AR's prof 2, and ADV amarr logi. I used this logi suit with basic RE's, a gek 38, enhanced damage mod, 2 basic shield extenders, 1 basic rep per, and 2x basic plates. I went 29-0 against several well known corps. By playing with a shotgun on a gimped suit (anything minmitar, other than an armor tanked logi), you get really good. What pisses me off is that my amarr logi has the same strafe speed as my dual KC'ed min scoutGǪ..Absolute bullshit if you ask me. And, any rifle is better for someone who knows how to strafe because you can just fire and strafe without having to worry about being within 3 meters of your enemy, and can just spray in CQC and kill EVERYTHING. With a niche weapon like the shotgun, you have to run and jump at your enemy to kill them, and can't strafe at the same time. Its just B.S. Any medium frame>scout or min assault. I had 371 armor and 137 shields, and didn't die, and got 29 kills. Oh, and 2 of those kills were with a basic flay lockGǪ.
TL;DR
EHP and range on super powered weaponry (rifles) imbalances the game, and removes diversity
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Tectonic Fusion
1159
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:53:00 -
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There will be more than one FOTM. Trust me.
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
420
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Posted - 2014.03.01 23:01:00 -
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The problem isnt chasing fotm, its natural for people to want the ability to do what they are here for. If one gun is so much better then the others doesnt it make since to use that gun to do what your trying to do? Apply the same logic to any other aspect of the game.... Would you use an inferior rep tool, hive, or link to avoid chasing fotm??No you would use the best you have or can afford, the problem is ccp CREATING a FOTM, not people using it.... The only alternative to avoiding fotm is sub standard performances due to lacking the ability to compete based on gear.... P h u c k that..... |
Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.03.01 23:03:00 -
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The problem is Chances is a beast with advanced gear...so anything he specs just waiting to be called FOTM.
I'm still waiting for people to start QQ'ing about ADS pilots. Poor scrubs would call a glass of milk OP if chances was tasked with slaying with it.
CEO of FA
B3RT>PFBHz>TP>IMP>FA
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2014.03.01 23:06:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:The problem is Chances is a beast with advanced gear...so anything he specs just waiting to be called FOTM. I'm still waiting for people to start QQ'ing about ADS pilots. Poor scrubs would call a glass of milk OP if chances was tasked with slaying with it. Every match against Snugglz or BlackHole Nova..... ;_;
i can haz gooder grammur
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1171
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Posted - 2014.03.01 23:10:00 -
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the new sentanal stats if they remain unchanged will mean the optimal builds will be
cal and gal sentinals cal and gal scouts min and gal logis
using whatever rifle is hurt the least by the inevitable nerf bats.
sentinals for killing everything, logis for repping sents, and scouts for hunting repper/scan logis
special mention to the minmatar commando wich will be the only decent counter to the gal sent.
the rifles are probably going to face near equal nerf bats so rail is still probably king because of the range, and we may see a shift towards duvolle and CR in extreme cqc depending on changes.
ive got a good handle on what the metagame will be. it just makes me sad that theres only 3 roles in the game post 1.8 chubby, chubby chaser, and chubby chaser hunter. and even then only half of those suits will be viable on top of that limitation.
its either join them or get stomped by them. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1171
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Posted - 2014.03.01 23:21:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:The problem is Chances is a beast with advanced gear...so anything he specs just waiting to be called FOTM. I'm still waiting for people to start QQ'ing about ADS pilots. Poor scrubs would call a glass of milk OP if chances was tasked with slaying with it. Every match against Snugglz or BlackHole Nova..... ;_;
you do realise that for the last year of dust i was blackholes gunner right? :P
thats why i know how to fly, and partly why novas such an *******. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1171
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Posted - 2014.03.01 23:33:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:The problem is Chances is a beast with advanced gear...so anything he specs just waiting to be called FOTM. I'm still waiting for people to start QQ'ing about ADS pilots. Poor scrubs would call a glass of milk OP if chances was tasked with slaying with it.
the difference is your used to seeing me using adv gear thats compairably underpowered VS other races.....
imagine me in an optimal minmaxed setup....
its not a pretty sight.
i loaded up a minmatar assault with a proto rail rifle one day and kept getting over 40 kills a game without breaking a sweat.... now picture that but a brick tanked caldari suit... or a future heavy.... |
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