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RKKR
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2014.01.23 18:11:00 -
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Don't be suprised that you see more assaults on the field that each carries a different item to replace logis. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2014.01.23 18:15:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Logi Reaction to 1.8 equipment adjustment once again proves that the Logi role is the most selfish and entitled.
Nothing selfish about blowing up supply depots so logis can't refill their nanohives that everyone seems to deplete in .1 second so he has to run around useless. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2014.01.23 18:57:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:RKKR wrote:Don't be suprised that you see more assaults on the field that each carries a different item to replace logis. Except they'll be dealing with higher fitting costs and their equipment will never be as good as a Logi doing the same thing. This. People are continuously trying to throw invalid arguments against the nerf but I haven't met any that made real sense.
It's not about being more effective. I have no idea how the game will play, but the question is if logis are really valuable compared to an extra gunplayer on the battlefield if assaults can take care of themselves and heavies can just be safe in a location after some hives are deployed.
The value given between a support suit and battle suit seems even more biased to bringing firepower (and spam equipment and forgot about it). |
RKKR
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2014.01.23 19:45:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:RKKR wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:RKKR wrote:Don't be suprised that you see more assaults on the field that each carries a different item to replace logis. Except they'll be dealing with higher fitting costs and their equipment will never be as good as a Logi doing the same thing. This. People are continuously trying to throw invalid arguments against the nerf but I haven't met any that made real sense. It's not about being more effective. I have no idea how the game will play, but the question is if logis are really valuable compared to an extra gunplayer on the battlefield if assaults can take care of themselves and heavies can just be safe in a location after some hives are deployed. The value given between a support suit and battle suit seems even more biased to bringing firepower (and spam equipment and forgot about it). But you also assume that the logi has no capacity to fight, which isn't true. A logi is trading slightly increased support effectiveness for slightly decreased combat effectiveness. The reverse it true for assaults, with slightly increased combat effectiveness for slightly decreased support effectiveness.
I don't assume that...I'm just saying that the assault role will probably more valuable on the battlefield, how many logis do you see helping their team out now? Hell we even got someone claiming logis are the most selfish suits around...
How will this improve if only 1 equipment will be as effective as now and the rest is different?
I'm not saying logis will be completely useless, but why should I bring one? Even now I'm twirling around with my fingers because there is nothing to do or I'm out of hives,....
Spam equipment and forgot about it to focus on gunplay is still going to be the way to go to be competitive. I wisheid it was different, but I guess I can't be too entitled |
RKKR
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:45:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Well don't throw all logis into the same equipment spam filled boat.
I think the "pure support" logis are bad logis. They should be just as active as any assault, albeit more cautious and indirect, when it comes to actual combat. It shouldn't be just about "drop uplinks and print money", it should be about being able to carry higher level equipment and more of it, so the assaults can focus their fitting resources more on combat and less on carrying around equipment. Remember, we don't know if they're changing the resources on Assault suits...trying to carry decent equipment could make an assault suffer quite a bit, making Logistics far more valuable than you might think.
In the end we'll have to see where the cards fall, but I wouldn't count the usefulness of the Logi suit out just yet.
Yes and don't worry I'm not throwing them in the same boat, but it just looks like that kind of gameplay is still being promoted. |
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