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Protected Void
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:13:00 -
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...are people using less proto gear now that they get killed more easily? I'm guessing the latter.
My payouts prior to 1.4 were typically 230000 to 240000, when I ended up in the top five. Now, they're rarely above 200000, even if I'm in the top 3. |
Green Living
0uter.Heaven
829
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:15:00 -
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I have noticed the payout being down as well. |
HandOGod
Taints of Tartarus
143
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:15:00 -
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People may be spending more time playing the game and less time just driving around blowing up installations.
Almost all the games I play these days are littered with proto guys. I have no idea where they are getting the funds because they die easier. |
XANDER KAG
Red Star.
EoN.
247
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:16:00 -
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When I finally get put into a match that hasn't already started I'll check if it's true....
(not trolling, I haven't participated in the start of a match since before the build) |
Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
206
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:21:00 -
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I've definitely noticed less ISK in my payouts. Please tell me this isn't true. If anything we should be getting more ISK, not less.... |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star.
EoN.
1026
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:22:00 -
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The payout curve actually seems to be steeper rather than a net drop. So higher for first place and...  |
Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
317
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:25:00 -
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Strange... i've been getting more ISK. I've hit some 400/500k ISK matches in just a few days of 1.4, which weren't this much common before. |
Medic 1879
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
1012
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:40:00 -
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Tax maybe? Mine seems about the same. |
Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
356
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Posted - 2013.09.06 14:08:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:Strange... i've been getting more ISK. I've hit some 400/500k ISK matches in just a few days of 1.4, which weren't this much common before.
Ive also noticed this too (occuring more than it used too), normally when your in the top 3.
I think the top 3 get a bigger portion than what they used too, and the rest get the pot split between them.
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Che Cortez
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.09.06 14:10:00 -
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Tax? Lol I have noticed this 2, even when u go 15/2 etc still not huge pay out |
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2100 Angels
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
248
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Posted - 2013.09.06 14:12:00 -
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Maybe it's the tax you're experiencing? I personally have no trouble getting the 270-400k mark.... |
XANDER KAG
Red Star.
EoN.
248
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Posted - 2013.09.06 14:12:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:Yagihige wrote:Strange... i've been getting more ISK. I've hit some 400/500k ISK matches in just a few days of 1.4, which weren't this much common before. Ive also noticed this too (occuring more than it used too), normally when your in the top 3. I think the top 3 get a bigger portion than what they used too, and the rest get the pot split between them.
^this |
Vexen Arc
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
32
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Posted - 2013.09.06 14:18:00 -
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Pay attention to the end of match screen. It's likely your corporation is asserting a tax. |
Travi Zyg
G I A N T
EoN.
101
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Posted - 2013.09.06 14:30:00 -
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Even with corp tax being subtracted , i too, feel that the payout seems to be a bit less. Used to be really easy to pull roughly 400k or slightly less for me and i def. havent changed play style or gotten worse, i still play everyday. Something just seems off. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1161
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Posted - 2013.09.06 14:36:00 -
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My payouts have been down a LOT, then the other day in one of those redline domination borefests I got a payout of 850,000 with 11 kills and 1600 WP.
There were not a lot of clones lost by the other team period, there were few proto suits that I saw and there were no tanks or vehicles killed worth note.
I think it's a crapshoot. |
Gorra Snell
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
108
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Posted - 2013.09.06 14:58:00 -
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It could be my imagination, but I think I'm seeing a lot fewer people with absurdly high KDRs at the top of the killboards...which means the top players are dying more, and are probably running less proto gear as a result...that's my guess. |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
476
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Posted - 2013.09.06 15:11:00 -
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Nah. There's still Proto-Pub-Stomping going down. If you see a squad of corporation members, best believe they're bringing out their good fits. |
Saxbrin Shain
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
27
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Posted - 2013.09.06 15:11:00 -
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I've noticed this, too. Payout + Tax seems to be less than Payout in 1.3 GÇö unless I'm screwing up the math and 120k + 8k = 250k. |
low genius
the sound of freedom
Renegade Alliance
404
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Posted - 2013.09.06 15:33:00 -
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i've been getting paid better. what kinds of game modes do you play? i've been averaging 250k in fw matches |
IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University
Ivy League
256
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Posted - 2013.09.06 15:45:00 -
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Depends on the match type. Im pretty sure payouts are still proportional to the amount destroyed + a cap and distributed proportionally to the total WP on a team.
Ambush is a Proto meat grinder between the hours of 1900EVE and 0600EVE. High WP still get high payouts.
Skirmish.... I hate skirmish
Domination has seemed the same. Though once the Viz hit the field, all the BBs in the pub match give up
My payouts are lower, but I am usually the scanner b**** where I used to run uplinks, so massively less WP. |
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Protected Void
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS
87
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Posted - 2013.09.08 11:07:00 -
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The tax effect is definitely not what I'm talking about, I'm very aware of that. Also, the most noticeable ISK amount on the end of battle screen is the amount of ISK before taxes.
I don't know, maybe a larger part, as some have noted, are being awarded to the players at the very top. Maybe it's a mixture of that and people being more cautious about their proto suits. Or maybe it's just a coincidence.
*shrugs* |
DJINN MUSTARD
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.08 17:10:00 -
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Protected Void wrote:...are people using less proto gear now that they get killed more easily? I'm guessing the latter.
My payouts prior to 1.4 were typically 230000 to 240000, when I ended up in the top five. Now, they're rarely above 200000, even if I'm in the top 3.
I STILL average 500k and up. Got 800k the other day! The pot gets divided! Isk is awarded for other things then killing! I make more then guys killing 30-40 people! Its ALL about HELPING your team WIN! Hack more, kill less! Watch how much MORE you get! |
Protected Void
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS
87
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Posted - 2013.09.09 10:05:00 -
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DJINN MUSTARD wrote:Protected Void wrote:...are people using less proto gear now that they get killed more easily? I'm guessing the latter.
My payouts prior to 1.4 were typically 230000 to 240000, when I ended up in the top five. Now, they're rarely above 200000, even if I'm in the top 3. I STILL average 500k and up. Got 800k the other day! The pot gets divided! Isk is awarded for other things then killing! I make more then guys killing 30-40 people! Its ALL about HELPING your team WIN! Hack more, kill less! Watch how much MORE you get!
Huh. You must be a hacking whirlwind, then :-D
I've gotten more than 500k exactly once, and that game I got 2000 more WP than the player in second place on my team. Would you say you're in first place in most games? And are you usually way ahead of the other players in terms of WP? Or do you get these kinds of payouts when you're not in first place? |
Protected Void
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS
87
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Posted - 2013.09.09 12:48:00 -
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I've now been paying more attention to this. I think the reason is that people are using less expensive gear. I've played quite a few games where about 50% of people killing me are in starter fits. Don't laugh - I'm a scout 
This could be due to more new players joining, but I've also noticed several known previous protopubstompers are running around in starter fits, killing me with their militia AR in 0.002 seconds. Or whatever. As soon as they get their sights on me. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
150
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Posted - 2013.09.09 12:57:00 -
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Protected Void wrote:...are people using less proto gear now that they get killed more easily? I'm guessing the latter.
My payouts prior to 1.4 were typically 230000 to 240000, when I ended up in the top five. Now, they're rarely above 200000, even if I'm in the top 3.
Well with the new improvement through to hit detection fixes and aim assist there are plenty of people wracking havoc with just militia gear.
The formular is simple the more proto and or expensive stuff you kill the higher the payout. In matches where everyone (or the majority) runs cheap fittings there is not much ISK to gain... |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1248
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Posted - 2013.09.09 13:03:00 -
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If I am using my proto suit, I get garbage payouts, sometimes less than 100k even though I may have lost 600k that match. However if I am using cheaper suits, my payouts increase greatly, regardless if I got better or worse WP/KDR than when I was using my proto suit.
Seems to be CCP's way of capping out those in proto gear.
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
519
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Posted - 2013.09.09 13:04:00 -
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Protected Void wrote:...are people using less proto gear now that they get killed more easily? I'm guessing the latter.
My payouts prior to 1.4 were typically 230000 to 240000, when I ended up in the top five. Now, they're rarely above 200000, even if I'm in the top 3.
My payouts are allot higher then it was in 1.3 i generally average above 300k and ive had 467k last night in a public match and no i didnt hurt any vehicles.
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