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TBF Avenger
Horizons' Edge Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.05 18:43:00 -
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Okay what's all the hype about? Seems like everywhere I go I hear someone saying Destiny is going to be big competition for Dust and devastate the games numbers. I watched the reveal from E3 a while ago and it looked pretty boring to me, but maybe i'm missing something. So what's so special about this game and what's it going to do better/different than Dust? What makes it special? |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
2297
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Posted - 2013.08.05 18:45:00 -
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It's just the doomsayers doomsaying. Pay it no mind.
It's like how people were saying The Last of Us is going to finish off the servers and how MAG is going to far outlive Dust. Let them preach their apocalyptic views, then watch them silently disappear when nothing comes of it. |
First Prophet
Valor Company Incorporated
772
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Posted - 2013.08.05 18:46:00 -
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Destiny is so two months ago. Ignore them, their doomsaying is out of date.
Destiny is the old busted, GTA V is the new hotness. GTA V will kill dust. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
2297
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Posted - 2013.08.05 18:48:00 -
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First Prophet wrote: GTA V will kill dust.
And thus the Prophet has spoken. |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2013.08.05 18:48:00 -
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Destiny is going to be a sick game, no doubt about it, but honestly the only aspect it has in common with dust is sifi theme. Destiny is an open world RPG game (I think ) while dust is PvP only (right now) and gameplay takes place only on enclosed maps. Naw it ain't notin like da dust 514 |
We are 138
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
201
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Posted - 2013.08.05 18:52:00 -
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I think its just saber rattling. I have the ability to play two games at once and I'm still caping out 1-2 toons a week. I think that the people that play dust now will play dust five months from now and I bet we start seeing player counts rising in time as they make the painfully slow improvements and dole out new content like gruel in the orphanage and we happy few that have toughed it out will walk among the noobs as gods (Lol I hope) that or the game will fail hell who knows? Shake a magic 8 ball |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
328
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Posted - 2013.08.05 18:52:00 -
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Ahmmm once TESO comes to ps4 my social life is out the door |
TBF Avenger
Horizons' Edge Orion Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.08.05 18:53:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:Destiny is going to be a sick game, no doubt about it, but honestly the only aspect it has in common with dust is sifi theme. Destiny is an open world RPG game (I think ) while dust is PvP only (right now) and gameplay takes place only on enclosed maps. Naw it ain't notin like da dust 514
It may, i'll wait till it comes out to judge. Just kind of sick of the state of gaming at the moment to care for any game. This game is the only one i'll play at the moment, and I don't feel like i'm missing a thing. |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
208
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:09:00 -
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I don't have any interest in Destiny whatsoever. What is killing Dust is CCP's ineptitude. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
801
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:15:00 -
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TBF Avenger wrote:Okay what's all the hype about? Seems like everywhere I go I hear someone saying Destiny is going to be big competition for Dust and devastate the games numbers. I watched the reveal from E3 a while ago and it looked pretty boring to me, but maybe i'm missing something. So what's so special about this game and what's it going to do better/different than Dust? What makes it special?
First off Destiny is not out yet. Dust seems to be killing itself all by itself.
Second what the hell have you been reading? In nearly every thread i have stated that Destiny is a co-op MMOFPS and is not really competition with Dust.
Third a much better discussion is how Elite and Star Citizen are going to kill EvE. Seriously between them they have like 250,000 backers. That is people who have payed for the game and have not even played them yet and can't play them for at least 6 months. Does EvE even have that many subscribers?
Fourth thinking about the second point: all the fan boys seem to love the SP/leveling system in Dust...with destiny i imagine that the XP/leveling system will actually be balanced at the start....also as a co-op open world mmo with tons of content to play rather then grind Destiny seems like a better fit for a huge segments of Dust's SP/leveling fan boy base....which i guess could kill Dust....of course if all those fan boys left then Dust could actually become a good FPS by ridding itself of its SP/leveling system. |
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
777
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:16:00 -
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The Remastered Duck tails game will pump up more numbers than this game. shoot even this game is still killing dust. lol
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Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
260
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:19:00 -
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Doomsayers unite!
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
208
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:21:00 -
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Doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
56
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:23:00 -
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hooc order wrote:TBF Avenger wrote:Okay what's all the hype about? Seems like everywhere I go I hear someone saying Destiny is going to be big competition for Dust and devastate the games numbers. I watched the reveal from E3 a while ago and it looked pretty boring to me, but maybe i'm missing something. So what's so special about this game and what's it going to do better/different than Dust? What makes it special? First off Destiny is not out yet. Dust seems to be killing itself all by itself. Second what the hell have you been reading? In nearly every thread i have stated that Destiny is a co-op MMOFPS and is not really competition with Dust. Third a much better discussion is how Elite and Star Citizen are going to kill EvE. Seriously between them they have like 250,000 backers. That is people who have payed for the game and have not even played them yet and can't play them for at least 6 months. Does EvE even have that many subscribers? Fourth thinking about the second point: all the fan boys seem to love the SP/leveling system in Dust...with destiny i imagine that the XP/leveling system will actually be balanced at the start....also as a co-op open world mmo with tons of content to play rather then grind Destiny seems like a better fit for a huge segments of Dust's SP/leveling fan boy base....which i guess could kill Dust....of course if all those fan boys left then Dust could actually become a good FPS by ridding itself of its SP/leveling system.
First point: agreed. Second point: E3 said it was a fpsmmorpg and PvE only. .. so it's si-fi gun WoW Third point: 500, 000 active subs and still growing monthly. Only current mmo to do so Fourth point: Yeah the sp system needs to be reworked into what it's suppoSed to be, a roll over system.
To each there own but DUST isn't going to die from the outside, only internally if it will. |
HYENAKILLER X
TEAM SHINOBI
122
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:28:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:First Prophet wrote: GTA V will kill dust.
And thus the Prophet has spoken. It will only remove clowns.
Also destiny has fully armored people in trench coats, cloaks and capes. Blouses will be dlc. |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
208
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:30:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:hooc order wrote:TBF Avenger wrote:Okay what's all the hype about? Seems like everywhere I go I hear someone saying Destiny is going to be big competition for Dust and devastate the games numbers. I watched the reveal from E3 a while ago and it looked pretty boring to me, but maybe i'm missing something. So what's so special about this game and what's it going to do better/different than Dust? What makes it special? First off Destiny is not out yet. Dust seems to be killing itself all by itself. Second what the hell have you been reading? In nearly every thread i have stated that Destiny is a co-op MMOFPS and is not really competition with Dust. Third a much better discussion is how Elite and Star Citizen are going to kill EvE. Seriously between them they have like 250,000 backers. That is people who have payed for the game and have not even played them yet and can't play them for at least 6 months. Does EvE even have that many subscribers? Fourth thinking about the second point: all the fan boys seem to love the SP/leveling system in Dust...with destiny i imagine that the XP/leveling system will actually be balanced at the start....also as a co-op open world mmo with tons of content to play rather then grind Destiny seems like a better fit for a huge segments of Dust's SP/leveling fan boy base....which i guess could kill Dust....of course if all those fan boys left then Dust could actually become a good FPS by ridding itself of its SP/leveling system. First point: agreed. Second point: E3 said it was a fpsmmorpg and PvE only. .. so it's si-fi gun WoW Third point: 500, 000 active subs and still growing monthly. Only current mmo to do so Fourth point: Yeah the sp system needs to be reworked into what it's suppoSed to be, a roll over system. To each there own but DUST isn't going to die from the outside, only internally if it will.
Dust is not Eve my friend. One is on PC where gamers are more patient and the other is on a soon to be outdated console where gamers are less patient. One is more of a strategy game while the other is an FPS. Despite all the strategy in the world, it is still an FPS which means shooting people in the face. Folks who like to shoot people in the face usually get bored more easily than strategy only gamers.
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
310
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:32:00 -
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Duke Nukem and Aliens Colonial Marines are better then this POS
Flame On!! |
HYENAKILLER X
TEAM SHINOBI
122
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:39:00 -
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:Duke Nukem and Aliens Colonial Marines are better then this POS
Flame On!!
Come at me |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
994
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:41:00 -
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Destiny seems cool But it is not really the Sandbox people think |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
261
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:41:00 -
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Goes to McDonald's and orders a Big Mac every day for over a year.
Talks about how much better the Whoppers are at Burger King while eating it.
Every.
Single.
Day.
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
209
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:43:00 -
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Jaqen Morghalis wrote:Goes to McDonald's and orders a Big Mac every day for over a year. Talks about how much better the Whoppers are at Burger King while eating it. Every. Single. Day.
gets diabetes in the process
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hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
801
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:57:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:hooc order wrote:TBF Avenger wrote:Okay what's all the hype about? Seems like everywhere I go I hear someone saying Destiny is going to be big competition for Dust and devastate the games numbers. I watched the reveal from E3 a while ago and it looked pretty boring to me, but maybe i'm missing something. So what's so special about this game and what's it going to do better/different than Dust? What makes it special? First off Destiny is not out yet. Dust seems to be killing itself all by itself. Second what the hell have you been reading? In nearly every thread i have stated that Destiny is a co-op MMOFPS and is not really competition with Dust. Third a much better discussion is how Elite and Star Citizen are going to kill EvE. Seriously between them they have like 250,000 backers. That is people who have payed for the game and have not even played them yet and can't play them for at least 6 months. Does EvE even have that many subscribers? Fourth thinking about the second point: all the fan boys seem to love the SP/leveling system in Dust...with destiny i imagine that the XP/leveling system will actually be balanced at the start....also as a co-op open world mmo with tons of content to play rather then grind Destiny seems like a better fit for a huge segments of Dust's SP/leveling fan boy base....which i guess could kill Dust....of course if all those fan boys left then Dust could actually become a good FPS by ridding itself of its SP/leveling system. First point: agreed. Second point: E3 said it was a fpsmmorpg and PvE only. .. so it's si-fi gun WoW Third point: 500, 000 active subs and still growing monthly. Only current mmo to do so Fourth point: Yeah the sp system needs to be reworked into what it's suppoSed to be, a roll over system. To each there own but DUST isn't going to die from the outside, only internally if it will.
Bungie has said there will be PvP "competitive arenas". In fact i am pretty sure they said so at E3.
WoW also grew for about 10 years and got far bigger then EvE did...until it stopped growing...also EvE is not the only current MMO to grow monthly...lots of MMOs do that. If you are going to brag about the 10 year thing at least get it right.
Anyway Elite and Star Citizen are direct competition to EvE...something EvE has not had in a very long time...if ever. |
SGT NOVA STAR
SVER True Blood
78
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Posted - 2013.08.05 20:16:00 -
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TBF Avenger wrote:Okay what's all the hype about? Seems like everywhere I go I hear someone saying Destiny is going to be big competition for Dust and devastate the games numbers. I watched the reveal from E3 a while ago and it looked pretty boring to me, but maybe i'm missing something. So what's so special about this game and what's it going to do better/different than Dust? What makes it special? yes because you can judge games now based on fuzzy videos... |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5611
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Posted - 2013.08.05 20:19:00 -
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SGT NOVA STAR wrote:TBF Avenger wrote:Okay what's all the hype about? Seems like everywhere I go I hear someone saying Destiny is going to be big competition for Dust and devastate the games numbers. I watched the reveal from E3 a while ago and it looked pretty boring to me, but maybe i'm missing something. So what's so special about this game and what's it going to do better/different than Dust? What makes it special? yes because you can judge games now based on fuzzy videos... Hey it's like DUST gameplay
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
334
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Posted - 2013.08.05 20:27:00 -
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If Dust dies I think it will be a death of a thousand cuts. That is to say no one thing will be the end of Dust including the ps4 or any one or even several games. However, everyone has a limited amount of free time and as more new things turn up less time may be devoted to playing one specific game.
There also seems to be trend among developers to now create persistent long term gaming worlds. If these games end up being popular and profitable then more and bigger projects will appear on the horizon.
Look at the blackberry and the iPhone. At one point blackberry phones were the ones to get and then the iPhone appeared and completely dominated the market. The smartphone with touchscreen was birthed. Then google and others took notice and initially put out mediocre products that did not compare but they learned and now the iPhone has moved from top dog to minor player.
CCP via Eve and Dust has shown the possibilities of a single shard persistent universe cross platform game link. Unfortunately what they could not do was capitalise and dominate the market or create large scale favourable feedback about Dust. This is not to say that they can not do this in the future but it does mean that they have a tough starting position to work from. Particularly with other, and in some cases much larger, developers now taking an interest in the general idea of dust.
However, going back to the idea of limited leisure time, it does not matter whether someone creates a game like Dust what matters is if someone creates a game that you can play for years which continues to evolve. For example I am very much interested in Elite and if it ends up being a good game then at least some of my time will go to playing it and not something else. Depending on how it is developed it may even up being a long term game. It may not be anything like Eve but I do hope they create a persistent environment and I just love the idea of actually piloting the ship.
Any how, I believe that CCP needs to create a strong and growing player base now before their competitors get their acts together.
Survive today so you can fight tomorrow.
PS. I wouldn't mind a Respec. :-) |
TBF Avenger
Horizons' Edge Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.05 20:51:00 -
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SGT NOVA STAR wrote:TBF Avenger wrote:Okay what's all the hype about? Seems like everywhere I go I hear someone saying Destiny is going to be big competition for Dust and devastate the games numbers. I watched the reveal from E3 a while ago and it looked pretty boring to me, but maybe i'm missing something. So what's so special about this game and what's it going to do better/different than Dust? What makes it special? yes because you can judge games now based on fuzzy videos...
You're a smart one aren't ya? Here's the video I watched and it's REAL fuzzy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBNdrJMwrkc
And lmao at the guy who thought I thought the game was out, and also assumed I only read his comments. No **** sherlock it won't be out till next gen consoles are on the market. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
297
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:08:00 -
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A'Real Fury wrote:If Dust dies I think it will be a death of a thousand cuts.
991, 992, 993......
If?
I think Dust could already be classified as dead or comatosed. CCP has to release stuff to bring this game back from the brink.
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hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
801
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:54:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:hooc order wrote:TBF Avenger wrote:Okay what's all the hype about? Seems like everywhere I go I hear someone saying Destiny is going to be big competition for Dust and devastate the games numbers. I watched the reveal from E3 a while ago and it looked pretty boring to me, but maybe i'm missing something. So what's so special about this game and what's it going to do better/different than Dust? What makes it special? First off Destiny is not out yet. Dust seems to be killing itself all by itself. Second what the hell have you been reading? In nearly every thread i have stated that Destiny is a co-op MMOFPS and is not really competition with Dust. Third a much better discussion is how Elite and Star Citizen are going to kill EvE. Seriously between them they have like 250,000 backers. That is people who have payed for the game and have not even played them yet and can't play them for at least 6 months. Does EvE even have that many subscribers? Fourth thinking about the second point: all the fan boys seem to love the SP/leveling system in Dust...with destiny i imagine that the XP/leveling system will actually be balanced at the start....also as a co-op open world mmo with tons of content to play rather then grind Destiny seems like a better fit for a huge segments of Dust's SP/leveling fan boy base....which i guess could kill Dust....of course if all those fan boys left then Dust could actually become a good FPS by ridding itself of its SP/leveling system. First point: agreed. Second point: E3 said it was a fpsmmorpg and PvE only. .. so it's si-fi gun WoW Third point: 500, 000 active subs and still growing monthly. Only current mmo to do so Fourth point: Yeah the sp system needs to be reworked into what it's suppoSed to be, a roll over system. To each there own but DUST isn't going to die from the outside, only internally if it will. Dust is not Eve my friend. One is on PC where gamers are more patient and the other is on a soon to be outdated console where gamers are less patient. One is more of a strategy game while the other is an FPS. Despite all the strategy in the world, it is still an FPS which means shooting people in the face. Folks who like to shoot people in the face usually get bored more easily than strategy only gamers.
Quote: Folks who like to shoot people in the face usually get bored more easily than strategy only gamers.
That must be why Socom and Team Fortress are so unpopular...
Oh wait.
Not to mention that CoD has hardly changed in 5 years...(i think you have a robot now...and they will get a dog soon) .Yet its sales are doing just fine. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6981
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:58:00 -
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Borderlands and Diablo and even warframe has more to worry about Destiney rather than Call of Duty, Battlefield and other real shooters do. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
802
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:08:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Borderlands and Diablo and even warframe has more to worry about Destiney rather than Call of Duty, Battlefield, Titanfall and other real shooters do which actually do pose their own variety of threats against Dust 514.
Also the hero art for Destiney... feels... unheroic. The villains are far more visually interesting than the heros.
Defiance and Firefall are better examples.
Boarderlands is an OK example...but Diablo?
Should be pointed out that Titanfall will have PvE elements in its multiplayer. NPC "popcorn" enemies to make the player feel good without actually making other players feel bad because you killed them. |
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