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Alena Ventrallis
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.05 05:38:00 -
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Simple question, which racial rifle is supposed to act like what AR variant?
I think the Caldari AR is supposed to act like the TAR, isn't it? |
Bad Heal
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Posted - 2013.08.05 05:48:00 -
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Gal= standard
Min= burst
Ama= tac
Cal= breach |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.05 05:49:00 -
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Bad Heal is correct. |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training
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Posted - 2013.08.05 05:49:00 -
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The AR we use is Gallente, Rail Rifles will be Caldari, Combat Rifles will be Minmatar, and the Scrambler Rifles are Amarr ARs.
So, if I'm reading your post correctly, the question you are asking is what variant of the Gallente AR is mimicking which racial AR, so we know the standard ScAR is single, so the TAC is Amarr, which leaves breach to be Caldari, and Burst to be Minmatar. |
dustwaffle
Gravity Prone
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Posted - 2013.08.05 05:57:00 -
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Still, Caldari being the masters of range warfare (and best ewar) get the breach, a close range rifle? The crappy DPS can be lived with since it ties in to their racial flavour, but close range + low dps is... er... |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2013.08.05 06:00:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Simple question, which racial rifle is supposed to act like what AR variant?
I think the Caldari AR is supposed to act like the TAR, isn't it?
They are the following
Rail Rifle/ Guass Rifle- Caldari Design
Current Blaster Assault Rifle- Gallentean Scum Design
Combat Rifle (current iteration Burst Rifle- Minmatar Design
Scrambler Rifle- Amarrian Design |
Bad Heal
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Posted - 2013.08.05 06:03:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Still, Caldari being the masters of range warfare (and best ewar) get the breach, a close range rifle? The crappy DPS can be lived with since it ties in to their racial flavour, but close range + low dps is... er...
??? maybe to many people use the breach incorrectly? If you like the run and gun style I would suggest this rifle to you over the standard.
It might save your clone. |
Alena Ventrallis
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.05 06:03:00 -
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Bad Heal wrote:Gal= standard
Min= burst
Ama= tac
Cal= breach
This is what I was trying to get at. Couldn't think how to word it.
Although I find the Caldari AR being breach to be a bit out of sync with Caldari principles. Shouldn't it be longer range? or even be the Tac AR? |
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Posted - 2013.08.05 06:10:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Bad Heal wrote:Gal= standard
Min= burst
Ama= tac
Cal= breach This is what I was trying to get at. Couldn't think how to word it. Although I find the Caldari AR being breach to be a bit out of sync with Caldari principles. Shouldn't it be longer range? or even be the Tac AR?
I don't think so, but If I remember right there will be variants of these rifles, (not just "1 for cal, 1 for ama" ect), much like we have variants of most weapons.
I'm not exactly creative, but one can look to the trends with other weapon variants and predict what type of variants there may be.
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Alena Ventrallis
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.05 06:11:00 -
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Still, the breach AR is short range isn't it? Caldari are supposed to be long range, slow firing, high alpha. That's more of the Tac ARs area. |
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Posted - 2013.08.05 06:19:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Still, the breach AR is short range isn't it? Caldari are supposed to be long range, slow firing, high alpha. That's more of the Tac ARs area.
Breach is not short range. Its a medium range weapon. Standard is more close range.
How about this, the closer you are to the enemy the higher the rate of fire you'll want, example: SMG. The farther away you are a slower ROF is preferred, example sniper rifle.
BASICS:
Long range is low ROF, high damage
Short range is high ROF, low damage |
Bad Heal
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Posted - 2013.08.05 06:20:00 -
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... don't use the Gal is opposite of Cal logic for the weapon choices. |
Alena Ventrallis
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.05 06:21:00 -
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Bad Heal wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Still, the breach AR is short range isn't it? Caldari are supposed to be long range, slow firing, high alpha. That's more of the Tac ARs area. Breach is not short range. Its a medium range weapon. Standard is more close range. How about this, the closer you are to the enemy the higher the rate of fire you'll want, example: SMG. The farther away you are a slower ROF is preferred, example sniper rifle. BASICS: Long range is low ROF, high damage Short range is high ROF, low damage
This I understand. But I was under the impression that the standard AR had more range than the breach variant. |
DildoMcnutz
the Tickle Monsters
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Posted - 2013.08.05 06:30:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Bad Heal wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Still, the breach AR is short range isn't it? Caldari are supposed to be long range, slow firing, high alpha. That's more of the Tac ARs area. Breach is not short range. Its a medium range weapon. Standard is more close range. How about this, the closer you are to the enemy the higher the rate of fire you'll want, example: SMG. The farther away you are a slower ROF is preferred, example sniper rifle. BASICS: Long range is low ROF, high damage Short range is high ROF, low damage This I understand. But I was under the impression that the standard AR had more range than the breach variant.
It does, much more range. |
Bad Heal
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Posted - 2013.08.05 06:35:00 -
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DildoMcnutz wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Bad Heal wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Still, the breach AR is short range isn't it? Caldari are supposed to be long range, slow firing, high alpha. That's more of the Tac ARs area. Breach is not short range. Its a medium range weapon. Standard is more close range. How about this, the closer you are to the enemy the higher the rate of fire you'll want, example: SMG. The farther away you are a slower ROF is preferred, example sniper rifle. BASICS: Long range is low ROF, high damage Short range is high ROF, low damage This I understand. But I was under the impression that the standard AR had more range than the breach variant. It does, much more range.
Maybe currently but
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Alena Ventrallis
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.05 07:09:00 -
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As long as it's long range. Still think it should be like the Tac AR, but its only an opinion. Thanks for the info. |
Racro 01 Arifistan
The Surrogates Of War
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Posted - 2013.08.05 07:12:00 -
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[quote=True Adamance][quote=Alena Ventrallis]Simple question, which racial rifle is supposed to act like what AR variant?
Current Blaster Assault Rifle- Gallentean Scum Design]
we'll see who is the scum when my madrugar and megathron navy issue stomps your pathetic cling wrapped gunnlogis and navy issue ravens. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.05 07:21:00 -
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Only complaint i have is
Amarr riffles are here
so why is the tac ar still alive ?
and why do we have a fully auto variant ?
if they do balance right
it really just comes down to
do you want a weapon that does more to shields and a little more damage over the standard but over heats
or do you want one that does not over heat but does a little less damage and less damage to shields
(they are the choices you will have...) but regardless the spread reduction the ar get's makes it better run 'n' gun weapon
try firing the scram without using scope
GL ! |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.05 07:22:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:True Adamance wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Simple question, which racial rifle is supposed to act like what AR variant? Current Blaster Assault Rifle- Gallentean Scum Design] we'll see who is the scum when my madrugar and megathron navy issue stomps your pathetic cling wrapped gunnlogis and navy issue ravens.
did i fix it ?
i don't know how to HTTML |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.05 07:24:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:[quote=True Adamance][quote=Alena Ventrallis]Simple question, which racial rifle is supposed to act like what AR variant?
Current Blaster Assault Rifle- Gallentean Scum Design]
we'll see who is the scum when my madrugar and megathron navy issue stomps your pathetic cling wrapped gunnlogis and navy issue ravens.
I'm not Caldari.... Megathrons have nothing on my trust Apocalypse or Abbadon's... nor will you pathetic armour tanks have anything on the Holy designs of God's armoured fist. |
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