DUST Search - PS2 SOE puts shame to CCP fanfest

Meeko Fent wrote:

Noc Tempre wrote:

BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:

Meeko Fent wrote:

BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:

Everything about PS2 puts this game to shame.
its not even fair to compare them.

How so?

It has Good Graphics, and a fine-tuned aiming system.

Both have **** tutorials.

Both have **** matchmaking (Due to the open-world nature of PS2, you can find a vet with all the 1337 guns and attachments quite easily)

Both have promised future updates with new content.

Both have a Less then adequate PC system.

Both Have Poor Graphics on a underwhelming piece of hardware.

On the majority vote, they are quite similar.

And, we know DUST is getting Fine-Tuned aiming in the next update, along with MMing soon, and DUST has delivered on its promise for new content.

What has PS2 delivered on that promise?

SMGs?

1 new AR?

1 New LMG?

What has DUST gotten?

A new AV weapon, a new Rifle, a New Sidearm, a New variant of the Dropship, a new LAV variant (I think the LLAV is New...), a New HAV variant (The Maruaders are returning in due time), 3 new "Classes" (Dropsuit Racial Frames), New Armor Mods, New Shield Mods....

By the time the PS4 comes out, DUST and PS2 will be on equal footing, all exempt graphics, which some could overlook for a free game.

Overall, they are both good games.

Have you played them both?
One company hasnt even figured out how aiming and moving works on an FPS and the other has.
The rest of your points mean nothing when you consider that simple fact.
And LOL at them being on par when PS4 comes out.
Delusion runs deep on this forum.

What he didn't mention in that "what has PS2" gotten is that is just a few of the smaller features of just the last 2 months. A large content drop every month with a bugfix on the tock two weeks later; all in addition to regular hotfixes and a test server. The list for dust is about 6 new items over the course of a year. And DUST has actually lost content in a lot of ways (craterlake anyone?)...

A Large content drop.... Of what?

Of more visual aesthetics that cost real money to use when, they could, you know, be working of actual new stuff?

Like a new vehicle?

Wait, only one new vehicle was able to be made.

From a Company of over a hundred.

While a company of 28 was able to get 6 new things out the door.

In six months.

When was PS2 released?

2012?

So, they managed to get 3 new guns and 1 new vehicle out in the timespan of a year.

And they failed in making a game that, by design was supposed to be available to everybody, only work for a select few.

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ReGnYuM TeamPlayers EoN. 642	Posted - 2013.08.03 04:01:00 - [31] - Quote PS2 is years ahead of Dust Community, gameplay, meta, etc.... If you have not already come to this conclusion then you're mostly likely the reason why this game is in such a poor state
Noc Tempre Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2321	Posted - 2013.08.03 04:04:00 - [32] - Quote Belzeebub Santana wrote: Just got done building a new rig for all these new games that are going to be crazy for about a $1000 Been playing PS2 on ULTRA on a 60' and the game is simply amazing! The fireworks people shoot off are draw dropping and I just hope PS4 will get close to what the PC can do. Only real thing Dust has is a back story to really care for. PS2 can be plagued with people stacking a faction during an alert. The game is as noob friendly as this game but it has a vast land to fall back to to get your bearings before u jump right into a battle. It has a virtual firing range where u can test any weapon and vehicle load out free of charge. Haven't spent a dime in it and am doing just fine. As a noob do the easy things to rank up and get certs. I find engineer and medic is great for noobs, https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99405&find=unread Just imagine if they came together...
xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 427	Posted - 2013.08.03 04:14:00 - [33] - Quote CCP lost with DUST because they failed to create a compelling shooter that supports more than 16v16.
Belzeebub Santana SVER True Blood 483	Posted - 2013.08.03 04:27:00 - [34] - Quote Ya it's my only real gripe with PS2, I can see that once you have played the game enough and have a good fit or two that the grind doesn't seem so enticing and you look around and say what is it all for? This is where if Dust does eventually get to the polish and dynamic as PS2, the actual moulding of a system and forging of an empire will keep the vets around. Noc that would be in a perfect world and one could only dream!
Belzeebub Santana SVER True Blood 483	Posted - 2013.08.03 04:36:00 - [35] - Quote Void Echo wrote: to the guys talking **** about dust and talking godly about ps2 why don't you just leave dust right now and go to something else until ps2 comes out, I do believe that bf is the closest thing to a released game that's similar in some ways to dust, if all you do is trash talk dust here, then why play it at all if you hate it so much... here are a few simple steps to fix your problem. 1- go to your playstation3 main menu 2- go to the dust514 application 3- press triangle and select delete 4- your no longer being forced against your will by the air to play a game you clearly hate with a passion If I hated dust I would do just as u said but I still hold out hope against hope that this game goes somewhere. I am in the camp that think Dust should be put back into beta and focus it on PS4. I think the PS3 isn't capable for what ccp wants and ccp isn't versed enough in the PS3 architecture to get out of it with what it can do. PS4 is known to be way more developer friendly and ccp is a pc developer first and this would compliment them the best.
Killar-12 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 402	Posted - 2013.08.03 04:46:00 - [36] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: The sooner dust is on ps4 the better the longer the wait the worse chance it has of surviving I'd let fanboy's test on the PS3 for 6 months/1 year as much as better to release a more complete and fixed game than this broke game.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 369	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:06:00 - [37] - Quote I play both. There doesn't have to be competition when they're both F2P. ... but DUST gets my money. CCP has done right by me on more than one occasion and I'll gladly support them.
Noc Tempre Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2325	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:49:00 - [38] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: I play both. There doesn't have to be competition when they're both F2P. ... but DUST gets my money. CCP has done right by me on more than one occasion and I'll gladly support them. Like merc packs? Omega boosters? Fused locus grenades? What has CCP done right by you, I'm frankly curious.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 2837	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:55:00 - [39] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: Eh, not very enjoyable to me. Feels like a big zerg fest, and everything is free (equipment), which makes it worse. Then there's the P2W part........ Oh well, that's my opinion, and you have yours. peace, Aizen Yeah, that's what kind of killed it for me. I mean, it sucks when you try your hardest to incorporate vehicles into your strategy, only to eventually give up because you'll perform far better with just having most of your Outfit role HA, like mine did.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 2839	Posted - 2013.08.03 06:21:00 - [40] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: Everything about PS2 puts this game to shame. its not even fair to compare them. How so? It has Good Graphics, and a fine-tuned aiming system. Both have ** tutorials. Both have matchmaking (Due to the open-world nature of PS2, you can find a vet with all the 1337 guns and attachments quite easily) Both have promised future updates with new content. Both have a Less then adequate PC system. Both Have Poor Graphics on a underwhelming piece of hardware. On the majority vote, they are quite similar. And, we know DUST is getting Fine-Tuned aiming in the next update, along with MMing soon, and DUST has delivered on its promise for new content. What has PS2 delivered on that promise? SMGs? 1 new AR? 1 New LMG? What has DUST gotten? A new AV weapon, a new Rifle, a New Sidearm, a New variant of the Dropship, a new LAV variant (I think the LLAV is New...), a New HAV variant (The Maruaders are returning in due time), 3 new "Classes" (Dropsuit Racial Frames), New Armor Mods, New Shield Mods.... By the time the PS4 comes out, DUST and PS2 will be on equal footing, all exempt graphics, which some could overlook for a free game. Overall, they are both good games. Have you played Planetside 2 recently? You sound like someone who doesn't know anything about the game other than a few pictures and a second-hand account. I played the game for over a year, and I second his assessment. Most of what is being released is just rehashes of old content, and lots of cosmetics that just add to the framerate drop you get in fights. Makes me laugh to see people *** about framerate drops in this game, and then praise Planetside 2.

THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 189	Posted - 2013.08.03 06:46:00 - [41] - Quote PS2 is a shallow snorefest. It will be a "turtle vs the hare" type deal. CCP is going slower but is going to crap all over PS2 in the end. Well, most people I talk to about PS2 agree that it gets boring after 2 weeks.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 2841	Posted - 2013.08.03 07:00:00 - [42] - Quote THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: PS2 is a shallow snorefest. It will be a "turtle vs the hare" type deal. CCP is going slower but is going to crap all over PS2 in the end. Well, most people I talk to about PS2 agree that it gets boring after 2 weeks. That's the main issue with the game right now. It provides the "Massive Scale Warfare Experience" that it claims to provide in all it's promotional material for a little while, but after a few weeks you've had more than ample time to see that nothing you do makes a difference, and SOE seems to talk hot **** about making a really deep game every time they're in front of a camera, but you can go to that roadmap the same way I can and see the following. Ability to push opposing factions off a continent Sanctuaries for each faction to fall back to if this happens Functioning warpgates that both allow and require travel across some continents to get to others, bringing a much needed sense of an actual world and scale Player owned bases New installation types The swamp continent, Hossin All marked as "Unscheduled" for months. Meanwhile, new paid-only cosmetic content is churned in almost bi-weekly. And as new weapons are released, old ones are nerfed to "provide balance in lieu of new assets".
Noc Tempre Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2327	Posted - 2013.08.03 07:19:00 - [43] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: PS2 is a shallow snorefest. It will be a "turtle vs the hare" type deal. CCP is going slower but is going to crap all over PS2 in the end. Well, most people I talk to about PS2 agree that it gets boring after 2 weeks. That's the main issue with the game right now. It provides the "Massive Scale Warfare Experience" that it claims to provide in all it's promotional material for a little while, but after a few weeks you've had more than ample time to see that nothing you do makes a difference, and SOE seems to talk hot **** about making a really deep game every time they're in front of a camera, but you can go to that roadmap the same way I can and see the following. Ability to push opposing factions off a continent Sanctuaries for each faction to fall back to if this happens Functioning warpgates that both allow and require travel across some continents to get to others, bringing a much needed sense of an actual world and scale Player owned bases New installation types The swamp continent, Hossin All marked as "Unscheduled" for months. Meanwhile, new paid-only cosmetic content is churned in almost bi-weekly. And as new weapons are released, old ones are nerfed to "provide balance in lieu of new assets". You are grossly uniformed, or willfully ignorant. Hell, you can go play on Hossin RIGHT NOW on the test server and it's clearly not "unscheduled". But you have spouted outright lies about PS2 repeatedly, so it's hard to take you too seriously. Still can't believe you had me going at "scopes decrease accuracy". Guess I am gullible for needing to check (and verify that it wasn't true) for myself. At least there is a VR room and a test server for such things...
Asher Night Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 446	Posted - 2013.08.03 07:22:00 - [44] - Quote Mdog 24158 wrote: Theyre both good games that will survive some how False.
THE TRAINSPOTTER ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN 56	Posted - 2013.08.03 07:35:00 - [45] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: Everything about PS2 puts this game to shame. its not even fair to compare them. Add me (firestorm_65) on steam if you have a gaming PC. We're getting something of a DUST exiles outfit going on TR Connery. nah , ill wait PS4 version

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 297	Posted - 2013.08.03 10:41:00 - [46] - Quote Moved to The Locker Room CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics @CCP_Logibro

Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 792	Posted - 2013.08.03 12:03:00 - [47] - Quote All PS2 is a zergfest with P2W content Its a MAG replacement at best which can or cant run on the simplest PC requirments I will wait till its put on PS4, hopefully alot of the problems are ironed out by then
Noc Tempre Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2329	Posted - 2013.08.03 14:41:00 - [48] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Moved to The Locker Room Is this a new policy over banning?
MlDDLE MANGEMENT lMPurity 304	Posted - 2013.08.03 15:40:00 - [49] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Moved to The Locker Room Is this a new policy over banning? Its how they kill threads without the aggro of locking them.
SheDevil HeadShotten Intara Direct Action Caldari State 25	Posted - 2013.08.03 15:45:00 - [50] - Quote MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Moved to The Locker Room Is this a new policy over banning? Its how they kill threads without the aggro of locking them. They only ban if you use these exact words. "CCP are a bunch of monkey's".

soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 200	Posted - 2013.08.03 15:54:00 - [51] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: Eh, not very enjoyable to me. Feels like a big zerg fest, and everything is free (equipment), which makes it worse. Then there's the P2W part........ Oh well, that's my opinion, and you have yours. peace, Aizen didn't Ichigo and Uhara defeat you?
Raymondo316 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 18	Posted - 2013.08.06 20:40:00 - [52] - Quote People going on about Planetside 2 being P2W You get some of the best guns in the game right from the beginning.......i regularly see high battle rank players still running round with starter weapons Heck on my battle rank 81 VS character i still use the starter LMG (Orion) Also as a higher battle rank player you dont gain any stupid abilities or shields which can make you pretty much unkillable like in Dust In PS2 a BR1 can kill a BR100 player pretty easy Same cant be said about Dust!! a player with 500,000 skill points has no chance against someone with 12-14 million skill points Oh well why people will be waiting for CCP to finally get there **** together & running around on the same 5-6 maps (which all look pretty much the same) people playing PS2 will be playing on this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKoFb5ulyGY
Skidd McMarx DUST University Ivy League 6	Posted - 2013.08.07 04:49:00 - [53] - Quote planetside 2 FTW.
Planetside2PS4F2P Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 7	Posted - 2013.08.09 21:58:00 - [54] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: Everything about PS2 puts this game to shame. its not even fair to compare them. How so? It has Good Graphics, and a fine-tuned aiming system. Both have ** tutorials. Both have ** matchmaking (Due to the open-world nature of PS2, you can find a vet with all the 1337 guns and attachments quite easily) Both have promised future updates with new content. Both have a Less then adequate PC system. Both Have Poor Graphics on a underwhelming piece of hardware. On the majority vote, they are quite similar. And, we know DUST is getting Fine-Tuned aiming in the next update, along with MMing soon, and DUST has delivered on its promise for new content. What has PS2 delivered on that promise? SMGs? 1 new AR? 1 New LMG? What has DUST gotten? A new AV weapon, a new Rifle, a New Sidearm, a New variant of the Dropship, a new LAV variant (I think the LLAV is New...), a New HAV variant (The Maruaders are returning in due time), 3 new "Classes" (Dropsuit Racial Frames), New Armor Mods, New Shield Mods.... By the time the PS4 comes out, DUST and PS2 will be on equal footing, all exempt graphics, which some could overlook for a free game. Overall, they are both good games. Have you played them both? One company hasnt even figured out how aiming and moving works on an FPS and the other has. The rest of your points mean nothing when you consider that simple fact. And LOL at them being on par when PS4 comes out. Delusion runs deep on this forum. What he didn't mention in that "what has PS2" gotten is that is just a few of the smaller features of just the last 2 months. A large content drop every month with a bugfix on the tock two weeks later; all in addition to regular hotfixes and a test server. The list for dust is about 6 new items over the course of a year. And DUST has actually lost content in a lot of ways (craterlake anyone?)... A Large content drop.... Of what? Of more visual aesthetics that cost real money to use when, they could, you know, be working of actual new stuff? Like a new vehicle? Wait, only one new vehicle was able to be made. From a Company of over a hundred. While a company of 28 was able to get 6 new things out the door. In six months. When was PS2 released? 2012? So, they managed to get 3 new guns and 1 new vehicle out in the timespan of a year. And they failed in making a game that, by design was supposed to be available to everybody, only work for a select few. Dude you are dilusional, so out of touch with reality, disgusting ccp fanboism hardcore. OMFG. Planetside destroys every single facet of dust. Go ask planetside players to try dust. They will disown you for turning them on to such a travisty. Dust gives f2p a really really bad name. Oh and dozens of guns have been added to planetside 2 since release 8 months ago, and another gigantic continent is more content than dust has combined, and ps2 has 4 continents now. How can you even compare the games, you must have a terrible pc, I will be on ps4 so kitten PC.
Planetside2PS4F2P Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 7	Posted - 2013.08.09 22:01:00 - [55] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: All PS2 is a zergfest with P2W content Its a MAG replacement at best which can or cant run on the simplest PC requirments I will wait till its put on PS4, hopefully alot of the problems are ironed out by then A zerg fest, yeah hundreds vs hundreds, yes Zerg is fun. You use the word like it is a bad thing. Zerg vs zerg is the mist entertaining fight in ALL OF GAMING. Be happy with your tiny lobby shooter. Lool Zerg=Massive battle
Planetside2PS4F2P Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 25	Posted - 2013.08.11 18:36:00 - [56] - Quote +ö+ö+ö+ö+ö+ö+ö+ö+ö+ö+ö+ö Funny nobody responded to my zerg=amazing battle post. Lool zerg>lobby shooter
ThePlanetside2Bomber Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 10	Posted - 2013.08.20 23:13:00 - [57] - Quote Bump, ccp learn from pros
Ali Bhabba Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.08.21 23:47:00 - [58] - Quote It would be cool if dust had some roadmap or accountability. You know like SOE and PS2!


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