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Killar-12
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:36:00 -
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These forums seem better and have more constructive critisism and less QQ about issues compeared to the General Discussions
How we could discuss issues and solutions in a 2 step prosess.
- Look at problems, people come up with solutions
- (Optional if there are more than 10 solutions) Have a preliminary vote to eliminate less popular solutions
- Vote on the top 10 (or less if there are less) solutions and sugest the top 3 solutions to the CPM
Just an Idea, What do you think?
These polls would be run by players not by CCP or the CPM. |
LongLostLust
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
114
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:39:00 -
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The CPM are self serving and koolaid drinking fanbois besides Kain and Nova. |
Killar-12
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:41:00 -
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LongLostLust wrote:The CPM are self serving and koolaid drinking fanbois besides Kain and Nova.
That is why I suggest this we'll have to serve ourselves as a community not let some handpicked CPM members do that, Still IWS at least replies to questions with more than vauge excuses, but Kain is my personal favorite. |
LongLostLust
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:44:00 -
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I'll start. When are the racial varients being release for the heavy, scout and vehicles? Then when will the respec be after that or will they come when those varients are released? |
Killar-12
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
366
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:57:00 -
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LongLostLust wrote:I'll start. When are the racial varients being release for the heavy, scout and vehicles? Then when will the respec be after that or will they come when those varients are released?
See there's a problem in the question that's someting that cant easily be dealt with using that method. This method is better suited to deal with Balencing issues. A good guideline is if the question relates to balencing. This question as important as it is, doesn't fit the mold for that sort of problem solving strategy.
An Example would be the issues with the AR or AV vs Vehicles.
Still I'd love to know when new stuff is coming. |
LongLostLust
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:02:00 -
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The most important thing is the racial variants. They pound into our head that "Your choices matter" and then don't give us all the original choices. Just a simple post would suffice. "We guarentee the racial variants will be released by Oct 1 and their will be a final respec at that time." Done. Then get to maps, game modes, more weapons, and balancing.
The forums are too biased to make rational desicions on weapon balance. I like the laser and want it back to Chromosome but with a slight damage nerf and back to the Sharpshooter Range 3 level. I'm not one to ask for proper balance and I would guess most of us aren't.
Though I do agree with balancing of dropsuits and better ways to do that by some forum posters. |
Killar-12
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
369
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:11:00 -
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LongLostLust wrote:The most important thing is the racial variants. They pound into our head that "Your choices matter" and then don't give us all the original choices. Just a simple post would suffice. "We guarentee the racial variants will be released by Oct 1 and their will be a final respec at that time." Done. Then get to maps, game modes, more weapons, and balancing.
The forums are too biased to make rational desicions on weapon balance.
Though I do agree with balancing of dropsuits and better ways to do that by some forum posters.
The forum vote will have 2 factors helping it. First look at this section, most people here are reasonable. Second it in no way, shape, or form binds CCP to listening but it provides some innovative and interesting Ideas to look at.
Still I agree that we need those Dropsuits and even a promise, at least they aren't making false promises. Still there needs to be another heavy suit |
LongLostLust
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:15:00 -
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Another heavy?? If they come out with one and not all at once. Jeez. You wonder what the H they are doing. Instead of the other racial suits they make up a new suit entirely(Commando)??? The priority list from this company is rediculous. |
Killar-12
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
369
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:17:00 -
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LongLostLust wrote:Another heavy?? If they come out with one and not all at once. Jeez. You wonder what the H they are doing. Instead of the other racial suits they make up a new suit entirely(Commando)??? The priority list from this company is rediculous.
another RACE of Heavy, Minmatar would be my choice, but Pilot suits also are important. |
Killar-12
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
370
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Posted - 2013.08.02 04:10:00 -
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Anyone? |
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Jathniel
G I A N T
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.02 04:59:00 -
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This is why the Feedback/Requests section is the section I prefer to look at most.
It's free of bravado, drama, and smack talk... most of the time.
I wouldn't knock our CPM members. They've all done a good job so far.
They represent and serve the community pretty well, and we should see them as a useful tool.
Whenever, we are able to come up with innovative ideas and reasonable balances, we should present it to the CPM for consideration... Considering they receive a lot of mail and feedback from the community, they can possess a viewpoint on certain matters that we may not consider. In turn, they can present our ideas to CCP directly for further consideration.
Sometimes our ideas on balancing and innovation may be sound, but they are often in ignorance of CCP's goals and can potentially conflict. This is where CCP communicating with the CPM and us, is important.
They give us some information on what their plans are, and we give feedback. That way a good balance of what CCP wants for the game and what we as players want for the game, is reached. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
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Posted - 2013.08.02 06:27:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:These forums seem better and have more constructive critisism and less QQ about issues compeared to the General Discussions How we could discuss issues and solutions in a 2 step prosess.
- Look at problems, people come up with solutions
- (Optional if there are more than 10 solutions) Have a preliminary vote to eliminate less popular solutions
- Vote on the top 10 (or less if there are less) solutions and sugest the top 3 solutions to the CPM
Just an Idea, What do you think? These polls would be run by players not by CCP or the CPM.
Firstly, General Discussion is full of bads and QQers - I instantly lose respect for anyone who can't even be bothered to post their thread in the right section (if they're posting 'feedback' in GD). That's why I tend to lurk here a lot more.
I think there's a lot of constructive posting and discussion happening here at the moment across quite a few threads, the problem is reading it all. Perhaps if OPs maintained their threads to include solutions suggested by people?
You also have to be cautious about voting. There's always going to be someone QQing about X weapon, and if too many of those people get together in one place (even if the weapon is fine) then you start to get a lot of voting power to a nerfhammer solution, which isn't ideal.
I don't think there's likely to be that many solutions typically, but if there are the problem with voting is that the intelligent votes will tend to get split up over a number of different solutions, which again would leave this process vulnerable to people looking to break a weapon.
Jathniel wrote:
That said, I would like to see what CCP's plans are for PvE and PvPvE content. What's on the drawing board? What can we expect several months from now?
Semi-off topic from me here, but I really really want know about this. |
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