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Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.08.01 20:03:00 -
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CCP, who has a distinct inability to balance guns and create non-exploitable map terrain, which inevitably lead to drastic imbalances...
..Or the Player base, who seem to go out of their way to abuse and exploit every single possible mechanic and oversight that CCP makes.
Thoughts?
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Smoky Fingers
Red Star.
EoN.
105
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Posted - 2013.08.01 20:05:00 -
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New academy does make for some quick ISK  just sayin |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3745
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Posted - 2013.08.01 20:09:00 -
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I'd say it's the overall player base toxicity on the forums that's ruining the game. Fortunately not everyone who plays has access to the forums because the virus of elitism, crying, self entitlement, trolling, griefing, and doomsday claims would run everyone away from the game. Dust has it's problems, but people need to STFU for a while and let CCP work. I honestly don't envy the developers of this game EVE's forums can be pretty bad, but this place is an insane asylum run by the patients. Sometimes I wish they'd shut the forums down for a while, but when I imagine this cancer making its way into the game, I come to my senses. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
293
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Posted - 2013.08.01 20:12:00 -
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A game developer is tasked with putting out a product that isnt easily exploited.
Each decision that is left up to the gamer should have looked at first from the game maker to see how one would use this to do things that arent intended.
You cant foresee everything but some things should be easily thought of and not implemented.
You would expect that much of that would go on in a game where a large part of it is spreadsheets and theory-crafting |
echo47
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
35
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Posted - 2013.08.01 20:51:00 -
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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:CCP, who has a distinct inability to balance guns and create non-exploitable map terrain, which inevitably lead to drastic imbalances...
..Or the Player base, who seem to go out of their way to abuse and exploit every single possible mechanic and oversight that CCP makes.
Thoughts?
I think its the idea that there should be balanceat this stage in teh development og this game that is the problem. We have not seen a clear definition form CCP on what they consider balance. All they are doing is reacting to whiney players. We cant really have true balance if all the weapons, mods and racial variants are not in the game. I think CCP is catering to the whines too much.
This leads to the playerbase behaving like they do. |
GTA V FTW
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.08.01 20:52:00 -
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If the game was better would there be so much QQing?
If the game was flawless then most people would not even come to these forums.
Broke game leads people to QQ on these forums. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3753
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:00:00 -
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GTA V FTW wrote:If the game was better would there be so much QQing?
If the game was flawless then most people would not even come to these forums.
Broke game leads people to QQ on these forums.
Every game forum has its trolls and doomsdayers that complain for the sake of complaining. Funny thing is the Dust/EVE forums aren't the worst I've seen. |
Criteria Shipment
Baynaer Space Command
The Ditanian Alliance
28
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:09:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I'd say it's the overall player base toxicity on the forums that's ruining the game. Fortunately not everyone who plays has access to the forums because the virus of elitism, crying, self entitlement, trolling, griefing, and doomsday claims would run everyone away from the game. Dust has it's problems, but people need to STFU for a while and let CCP work. I honestly don't envy the developers of this game EVE's forums can be pretty bad, but this place is an insane asylum run by the patients. Sometimes I wish they'd shut the forums down for a while, but when I imagine this cancer making its way into the game, I come to my senses.
Someone make this a f*cking forum post immediately. |
Protocake JR
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
361
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:09:00 -
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CCP.
We tell them, "Hey! Go left!"
Then they go right, inevitably **** up, then have to go back (wasting time) to redo their mistake.
The dev team is small, inexperienced, and lacks a clear vision and sense of direction. They are literally learning as they go along, which is why we have so many trivial problems and is also why progress is so slow. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion
284
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:11:00 -
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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:...that CCP makes.
They know.
You know.
Has been stated before.
This post won't help.
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Minstrum Ridcully
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
8
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:14:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:CCP.
We tell them, "Hey! Go left!"
Then they go right, inevitably **** up, then have to go back (wasting time) to redo their mistake.
The dev team is small, inexperienced, and lacks a clear vision and sense of direction. They are literally learning as they go along, which is why we have so many trivial problems and is also why progress is so slow.
This, in the long run, may turn out to be a positive.
I have the patience to wait and see. |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
217
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:19:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:GTA V FTW wrote:If the game was better would there be so much QQing?
If the game was flawless then most people would not even come to these forums.
Broke game leads people to QQ on these forums. Every game forum has its trolls and doomsdayers that complain for the sake of complaining. Funny thing is the Dust/EVE forums aren't the worst I've seen.
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KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
179
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:20:00 -
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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:CCP, who has a distinct inability to balance guns and create non-exploitable map terrain, which inevitably lead to drastic imbalances...
..Or the Player base, who seem to go out of their way to abuse and exploit every single possible mechanic and oversight that CCP makes.
Thoughts?
I agree i said this from 5/14/13 the game design is flawed. The developed dust for PC not console. Perfect example Flaylock and Cal logi suit. In house testing said both items were fine.
They release it to the masses then they said it needs to be nerfed WTF. People grinded to get those items.
They nerf it with no repec options. On PC this way of developing is fine, but not on console. Everything in this game needs to be rebalanced.
Core mechanics still not fixed missing 90% of content. The list goes on the PS 3 console community will not tolerate this type of development.
You can't tweak the game on the fly without giving the players an option to respec to something that works.
It's not fair hence why the player numbers are dropping. Next up merging of the servers then comes the lag more players leave.
In the target audience console players will be gone then CCP is left with Eve players who purchased PS3's.
That wasn't the plan mismanagement reeks all over Dust.
The CEO of CCP needs to step up and take charge of Dust and remind his staff they are developing on a console not PC.
Or just bring Dust to PC where they can develope the game in ten years and tweak like crazy. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3757
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:23:00 -
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Khal V'Rani wrote:Cosgar wrote:GTA V FTW wrote:If the game was better would there be so much QQing?
If the game was flawless then most people would not even come to these forums.
Broke game leads people to QQ on these forums. Every game forum has its trolls and doomsdayers that complain for the sake of complaining. Funny thing is the Dust/EVE forums aren't the worst I've seen.
Dust Loop's community is at least twice as bad. Their announcer drove me to stop doing brackets. I hope he gets bodied in real life. |
LCB Holdings
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:28:00 -
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CCP makes the mistakes and the community points the ineptitude by using such mistake. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic
Top Men.
800
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:46:00 -
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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:CCP, who has a distinct inability to balance guns and create non-exploitable map terrain, which inevitably lead to drastic imbalances...
..Or the Player base, who seem to go out of their way to abuse and exploit every single possible mechanic and oversight that CCP makes.
Thoughts?
I am starting to think there is something to this whole "player base of Dust/eve is all bad apples"
I have been thinking about the whole Spero escrow service...basically he facilitates ISK transfers between Dust and EvE and charges for it.
Noting wrong with that...but then you look at what he charges which is over 50%.
Now this is not a dig at sperro....he is a dishonest scum bag but not for charging such a high price. it is the market....he simply charges what the market will take.
But lets look at other markets in the real world that do the same thing. For money exchanges in foreign currencies they charge about 5%. For bitcoin it is mush less then this...like 2%. For money to gold and back again it is 10% for money laundry it is about 30% (this amount is based on movies and TV shows...surprisingly consistent)
Now what Sperro is doing is legal...this is not a black market like money laundry...yet the market for him is 20% plus more then the real world black market. Why is that?
The reason is trust and honest dealings in EvE is a sellers market....there is so much more grift and dishonesty in EvE and Dust that the legal market can charge 20% more for trustworthy transactions then the real world crooks can charge.
That should tell you a bit about the character of your average Dust/EvE player....so dishonest that legal operators are less trustworthy then real world crooks. |
SoLJae
SVER True Blood
471
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:46:00 -
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Khal V'Rani wrote:Cosgar wrote:GTA V FTW wrote:If the game was better would there be so much QQing?
If the game was flawless then most people would not even come to these forums.
Broke game leads people to QQ on these forums. Every game forum has its trolls and doomsdayers that complain for the sake of complaining. Funny thing is the Dust/EVE forums aren't the worst I've seen.
Not even close...You can go to Anygame's forum and see the same complaints and rude Internetz bull$hitz:
1. Too much lag
2. This/these weapon(s) sux/op
3. these glitchers/haxorsz are ruining it....waaaaaahh
4. not enough balance...the laws of earthly phyisics just don't apply...waaaahhh!
5. Devs suxxxx--as if they need anymore stress ;-))) |
Zero Notion
Red Star Jr.
EoN.
139
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:47:00 -
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GTA V FTW wrote:If the game was better would there be so much QQing?
If the game was flawless then most people would not even come to these forums.
Broke game leads people to QQ on these forums.
Have you ever read the WoW forums?
The SC forums?
Any game forum ever in existence? |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
WE ARE LEGENDS
205
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:51:00 -
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I thought only I knew that.  |
HYENAKILLER X
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
101
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:54:00 -
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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:CCP, who has a distinct inability to balance guns and create non-exploitable map terrain, which inevitably lead to drastic imbalances...
..Or the Player base, who seem to go out of their way to abuse and exploit every single possible mechanic and oversight that CCP makes.
Thoughts?
This is a competition where we pretend to kill each other. Try to toughen up.
Toughen up does not mean flaylock/forgegun/lav spam.
It means fight like you have something to prove.
Only clowns "play". |
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