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Beren Hurin
The Vanguardians
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:11:00 -
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Saw this idea here and thought it was amazing. This would certainly clarify a lot of things as the term 'assault rife' is a very generic class of weapon. Plus 'carbine' implies something that is a little less ranged than a rifle.
So cast your vote for the name change! |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
74
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:15:00 -
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A new name is needed but I don't mind if ist Plasma Carbine, Plasma Rifle or Blaster Rifle all would fit (also I think Plasma Rifle has the highest chances as Plasma Rifles are mentioned in Templar One)
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
897
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:15:00 -
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This needs to be renamed as well as the shotgun, sniper rifle, submachine gun, and heavy machine gun. It needs to be more clear that it is a specific weapon and not a generic class of weapons. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
74
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:17:00 -
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Yes dont' forget the upcoming Combat Rifle. It seem to me that CCP once wanted more generic weapon classes where all weapons would be sorted in and then changed their mind and all that remains is the name sheme.... |
RedRebelCork
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
263
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:18:00 -
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Agreed.
A 'Re-Branding' to something like Pasma Rifle for the AR and Plasma Carbine for the TAR would be a good thing, making it just another rifle rather than THE rifle. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:18:00 -
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With "rifles" being used for about 5 other classes of weapons, and "assault" being one of the designated variant names for other weapons, yet being the baseline variant for ARs, this definitely needs a rename. Plus assault rifle isn't futuristic enough. Its gallente, call it a blaster rifle. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:21:00 -
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Plasma Rifle.
Assault Plasma Rifle just sounds.... Glorious... |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:25:00 -
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I like blaster rifle, but renaming it anything that doesn't have the word assault and rifle together will work to eliminate people confusing it with an AK-47. |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
518
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:29:00 -
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I'm absolutely behind this. Hell, being pushed into doing this might help CCP remember what the Gallente hand-held blaster is actually supposed to be and do. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
941
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:29:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:This needs to be renamed as well as the shotgun, sniper rifle, submachine gun, and heavy machine gun. It needs to be more clear that it is a specific weapon and not a generic class of weapons. This and i vote Particle Rifle for the AR.
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:33:00 -
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Coming from PS2, I agree that the AR as it is described in the dev blogs and the intentions based on range is better described as a Carbine.
Im sure people are sick of hearing about PS2 but the fact is there is no mistaking the efficacy of a carbine vs a true AR in PS2. The VR training room allows you to play with all the weapons and each weapon has a damage range curve and a volume of statistics including accuracy level at various range for hip and ADS.
The hybrid plasma AR that we currently use are indeed more Carbine rifles which are designed to be in the close to medium range. However that only makes CCP even seem more foolish that in all this time that this game is in development they have not had a true medium-medium long range automatic rifle which is the quintessential staple of FPS. |
Fox Gaden
DUST University Ivy League
752
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:36:00 -
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I agree. Call it a Plasma Rifle. |
Beren Hurin
The Vanguardians
883
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:41:00 -
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:Coming from PS2, I agree that the AR as it is described in the dev blogs and the intentions based on range is better described as a Carbine.
Im sure people are sick of hearing about PS2 but the fact is there is no mistaking the efficacy of a carbine vs a true AR in PS2. The VR training room allows you to play with all the weapons and each weapon has a damage range curve and a volume of statistics including accuracy level at various range for hip and ADS.
The hybrid plasma AR that we currently use are indeed more Carbine rifles which are designed to be in the close to medium range. However that only makes CCP even seem more foolish that in all this time that this game is in development they have not had a true medium-medium long range automatic rifle which is the quintessential staple of FPS.
I would be okay with carbines and the combat rifle requiring a little less PG vs. the rifles like the amarr scrambler, TAC AR, and rail rifle because they are sacrificing range. |
Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization
101
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:43:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Saw this idea here and thought it was amazing. This would certainly clarify a lot of things as the term 'assault rife' is a very generic class of weapon. Plus 'carbine' implies something that is a little less ranged than a rifle. So cast your vote for the name change!
I feel if we are going to step into different classes of weaponry for all the races available, we are going to need to do something like this (agreed) or at least add new types of weapon damages for the other races in each category that we currently have.
Either idea works for my vision of New Eden. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
637
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:46:00 -
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Blaster rifle is best name for Gallente rifle.
I think ARs will have to be reworked from the ground up once we get all the variants. |
Beren Hurin
The Vanguardians
884
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:51:00 -
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:Coming from PS2, I agree that the AR as it is described in the dev blogs and the intentions based on range is better described as a Carbine.
Im sure people are sick of hearing about PS2 but the fact is there is no mistaking the efficacy of a carbine vs a true AR in PS2. The VR training room allows you to play with all the weapons and each weapon has a damage range curve and a volume of statistics including accuracy level at various range for hip and ADS.
The hybrid plasma AR that we currently use are indeed more Carbine rifles which are designed to be in the close to medium range. However that only makes CCP even seem more foolish that in all this time that this game is in development they have not had a true medium-medium long range automatic rifle which is the quintessential staple of FPS.
Arguably, the laser rifle could fit here, but it is odd in that it sucks up close and its falloff after its optimal sucks. And its weird that their would be 2 rifle skill trees for lasers.
IMO the scrambler rifles should fill this role somewhat as lasers are supposed to be medium-long range weapons |
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