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achiever pigs with fricken lazer beams 51	Posted - 2013.07.31 03:58:00 - [1] - Quote love the cal logi cpu nerf now I have too nerf my fits too make them work even with cpu lvl 5 so its proto guns and shields or proto repper nano hive injeter cant fit both thank for nerf I am better off using rocks so now you made me turn my logi in too a Assault suit from now on all I fit is nano hives maybe
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 819	Posted - 2013.07.31 04:00:00 - [2] - Quote achiever wrote: love the cal logi cpu nerf now I have too nerf my fits too make them work even with cpu lvl 5 so its proto guns and shields or proto repper nano hive injeter cant fit both thank for nerf I am better off using rocks so now you made me turn my logi in too a Assault suit from now on all I fit is nano hives maybe cry more, please, cry more. goddamn fuckwits.
KING CHECKMATE Seraphim Auxiliaries 431	Posted - 2013.07.31 04:01:00 - [3] - Quote achiever wrote: love the cal logi cpu nerf now I have too nerf my fits too make them work even with cpu lvl 5 so its proto guns and shields or proto repper nano hive injeter cant fit both thank for nerf I am better off using rocks so now you made me turn my logi in too a Assault suit from now on all I fit is nano hives maybe Cry me a river...
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 635	Posted - 2013.07.31 04:04:00 - [4] - Quote My proto Gallente assault has 390 CPU and I'm fine. You have 432 CPU with max skills...what's the problem?
RA Drahcir Psygod9 RISE of LEGION 45	Posted - 2013.07.31 04:05:00 - [5] - Quote why are you running a proto weapon with a logi anyway? whatever, you do you, and many of you did that, now you got yourselves nerfed. congratulations.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 932	Posted - 2013.07.31 04:08:00 - [6] - Quote achiever wrote: love the cal logi cpu nerf now I have too nerf my fits too make them work even with cpu lvl 5 so its proto guns and shields or proto repper nano hive injeter cant fit both thank for nerf I am better off using rocks so now you made me turn my logi in too a Assault suit from now on all I fit is nano hives maybe Shouldn't you be dropping the Proto AR off of that fit because you selected the logi suit to support your team? or could it be that you are an assault players that half assed it and went for the most OP thing available and now are crying about your nerf? If you then I have no pity for you. You simply should embrace your role and a support player and not a slayer. Perhaps I should quote from the CCP gospels... "And yea the developers pass unto us these words to live by..... HTFU son!"
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 325	Posted - 2013.07.31 04:10:00 - [7] - Quote OP needs to use a TY-5 Breach Scrambler Pistol as his primary. All of his problems will be solved when he switches to it.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 2094	Posted - 2013.07.31 04:17:00 - [8] - Quote achiever wrote: so now you made me turn my logi in too a Assault suit from now on all I fit is nano hives maybe If you wanted an assault suit, you should've skilled into the assault suit. Otherwise, HTFU, swap those damage mods for some tank, get some equipment, and start using your logi suit to logi.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK 43	Posted - 2013.07.31 04:20:00 - [9] - Quote achiever wrote: love the cal logi cpu nerf now I have too nerf my fits too make them work even with cpu lvl 5 so its proto guns and shields or proto repper nano hive injeter cant fit both thank for nerf I am better off using rocks so now you made me turn my logi in too a Assault suit from now on all I fit is nano hives maybe You are the reason people voted and cried to make logi's SIDEARM only.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 300	Posted - 2013.07.31 04:45:00 - [10] - Quote so your mad because you have to be a real logi the is just crazy ccp i demand you give this poor soul a respec and a Ph.D in tom foolery
KalOfTheRathi Talon Strike Force LTD Covert Intervention 559	Posted - 2013.07.31 04:54:00 - [11] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: so your mad because you have to be a real logi this is just crazy ccp i demand you give this poor soul a respec and a Ph.D in tom foolery Your posterior look quite fetching on your neck. This was a Logi Bro that got the dubious benefit of the Wang Nerf Hammer of Doom. You obviously are one of those that would prefer punishment be meted out to those that read the rules, the often incorrect descriptions and spend their hard earned SP believing CCP/Shanghai. Foolish is the Merc that believes CCP/Shanghai, for the Wang will hammer them all whenever the QQ Kittens sound in chorus that others play as the game was delivered. Why should they get their skills respeced when the reason they spent them in the first place was to get the benefits that the Wang himself originally declared. What is it that you do, soul that lives in the night but is a mere shadow and thus not truly dark? Let the QQ Kittens know so their chorus will drown your dreams as well while making your SP a mockery of effort.
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 453	Posted - 2013.07.31 06:22:00 - [12] - Quote And this is why I love CCP. These people deserve nerfs.
DRE PrEaCh Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack 34	Posted - 2013.07.31 07:03:00 - [13] - Quote I used/still use ck0 as a logi and I can tell u it was a bad/steep/harsh nerf. I'm maxed out in skill for: CPU/PG and still can't fit proto equip with duvolle and complex shields and armor. I had 512 CPU now I have 459 CPU that's a bit too much to lose.
Mamertine Son Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 10	Posted - 2013.07.31 07:07:00 - [14] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: so your mad because you have to be a real logi this is just crazy ccp i demand you give this poor soul a respec and a Ph.D in tom foolery +1 for including the word tom foolery in your post.
Gauder Berwyck Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 292	Posted - 2013.07.31 07:10:00 - [15] - Quote A crap logi is the one that rushes to support and gets killed. Usually those with a gungame that leaves some to be desired. A better logi is the one that survives so he can support the team. The best logi is the one that is able to survive and clear the area of enemies before rezzing and repairing. Why should we sacrifice our ability to stay alive and killing other people? It's simply not logical. I have said it before, the PROPER nerf for the CaLogi would be to remove a high slot. All this "nerf" did was to make me downgrade some of my equipment and use an advanced CPU module instead of a militia one. With a high slot removed, you'd be getting the CaLogi more in line with the "logibro" mentality, this nerf only means I'll sacrifice the team player modules, counter productive to what CCP wanted.
dustwaffle Gravity Prone EoN. 259	Posted - 2013.07.31 07:15:00 - [16] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: This was a Logi Bro Nope, try again. KalOfTheRathi wrote: the often incorrect descriptions and spend their hard earned SP believing CCP/Shanghai. Nope, try again. I don't believe the Caldari Logistics Dropsuit, in all basic, advanced and prototype variant, state ANYWHERE, that, 'This suit is a variation of the Assault Suit, only with more equipment, and you should use it like that'. KalOfTheRathi wrote: Why should they get their skills respeced when the reason they spent them in the first place was to get the benefits that the Wang himself originally declared. Reference? Thought not. Try again.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 627	Posted - 2013.07.31 07:20:00 - [17] - Quote Gauder Berwyck wrote: this nerf only means I'll sacrifice the team player modules, counter productive to what CCP wanted. That is YOUR choice, not CCP's. Just because you choose to shun teamwork doesn't mean the nerf was bad, just that you are a bad logi. The nerf promotes role choice, which is a good thing, it is just a shame that so many scrubs went CA logi only to now turn into the crapiest logis ever when their toy got taken away.
Gauder Berwyck Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 292	Posted - 2013.07.31 07:23:00 - [18] - Quote People seem to make the mistake that killers aren't good team players... The one does not exclude the other from being true.
dustwaffle Gravity Prone EoN. 260	Posted - 2013.07.31 07:23:00 - [19] - Quote Gauder Berwyck wrote: A crap logi is the one that rushes to support and gets killed. Usually those with a gungame that leaves some to be desired. A better logi is the one that survives so he can support the team. The best logi is the one that is able to survive and clear the area of enemies before rezzing and repairing. Why should we sacrifice our ability to stay alive and killing other people? It's simply not logical. I have said it before, the PROPER nerf for the CaLogi would be to remove a high slot. All this "nerf" did was to make me downgrade some of my equipment and use an advanced CPU module instead of a militia one. With a high slot removed, you'd be getting the CaLogi more in line with the "logibro" mentality, this nerf only means I'll sacrifice the team player modules, counter productive to what CCP wanted. So by your logic, the best logi is the one that good at killing and staying alive, i.e. an Assault suit? They did not touch powergrid, so you don't have to downgrade any equipment, just upgrade your CPU enhancer since you're using one anyway. You could instead forgo the proto weapon and use an advanced weapon instead, meaning as a side benefit, you could also put better equipment on there to provide better support for your team. Unless you're one of those 'logi bros' that fit a basic/militia needle + basic/militia armor repper because 'it gives more WP'. Great logic there, champ. Counter productive to what CCP wanted? CCP wanted Caldari logi dropsuit users to use the suit in a more logi-oriented way. You insist on using it as an Assault suit. CCP nerfs that playstyle. You carry on trying to use it as a sub-par Assault suit., claiming that CCP doesn't let you perform your logi role well Well... I guess Einstein made a good point.
dustwaffle Gravity Prone EoN. 260	Posted - 2013.07.31 07:27:00 - [20] - Quote Gauder Berwyck wrote: People seem to make the mistake that killers aren't good team players... The one does not exclude the other from being true. Of course they are, claiming otherwise is stupid. However, what is the focus of the Assault suit? What is the focus of the Logistics suit? Hint, the name gives it away Better yet, pray share with us, how many SP do you have in equipment? What level is your Nanocircuitry and Remote Armore repair (or whatever the skill is called)?
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 123	Posted - 2013.07.31 07:27:00 - [21] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: KalOfTheRathi wrote: This was a Logi Bro Nope, try again. KalOfTheRathi wrote: the often incorrect descriptions and spend their hard earned SP believing CCP/Shanghai. Nope, try again. I don't believe the Caldari Logistics Dropsuit, in all basic, advanced and prototype variant, state ANYWHERE, that, 'This suit is a variation of the Assault Suit, only with more equipment, and you should use it like that'. KalOfTheRathi wrote: Why should they get their skills respeced when the reason they spent them in the first place was to get the benefits that the Wang himself originally declared. Reference? Thought not. Try again. Lol yeah the assault logi is the amarr which I am an is specified in its description, caldari description states it uses the bare minimum so I think they should be happy with 5 high 4 low, hardly bare minimum, again I'll re iterate, amarr is assault logi as stated in its description- now working as intended
The Attorney General ZionTCD 627	Posted - 2013.07.31 07:27:00 - [22] - Quote Gauder Berwyck wrote: People seem to make the mistake that killers aren't good team players... The one does not exclude the other from being true. Slayers should be in assault suits, they are best suited for that role. If you have the gun game and twitch reflexes for it, then why are you not in an assault suit being most effective for your team? Oh right, you specced into the OP FotM because it looked better suited to what you wanted to do than the intended role based suit. You specced wrong because you were trying to abuse an OP dropsuit. You pissed away your SP and I am getting a huge laugh out of it. Should have been smart enough to realize that if you wanted to play the assault role you should have specced into an assault suit.
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 191	Posted - 2013.07.31 07:28:00 - [23] - Quote achiever wrote: so now you made me turn my logi in too a Assault suit from now on all I fit is nano hives maybe You're really going to give up the needle for a shot at being a slayer suit? Ouch. I was squaded tonight with a guy using an LLAV. His response to all hate mail was this is his answer for the Cal Logi balancing/nerf.
Billi Gene The Southern Legion 196	Posted - 2013.07.31 07:34:00 - [24] - Quote DRE PrEaCh wrote: I used/still use ck0 as a logi and I can tell u it was a bad/steep/harsh nerf. I'm maxed out in skill for: CPU/PG and still can't fit proto equip with duvolle and complex shields and armor. I had 512 CPU now I have 459 CPU that's a bit too much to lose. Gallente Logi laughs as its suit bonus becomes apparent. Gauder Berwyck wrote: A crap logi is the one that rushes to support and gets killed. Usually those with a gungame that leaves some to be desired. A better logi is the one that survives so he can support the team. The best logi is the one that is able to survive and clear the area of enemies before rezzing and repairing. Why should we sacrifice our ability to stay alive and killing other people? It's simply not logical. I have said it before, the PROPER nerf for the CaLogi would be to remove a high slot. All this "nerf" did was to make me downgrade some of my equipment and use an advanced CPU module instead of a militia one. With a high slot removed, you'd be getting the CaLogi more in line with the "logibro" mentality, this nerf only means I'll sacrifice the team player modules, counter productive to what CCP wanted. The Best Logi knows that you can't res and clear an area every time, and makes decisions based upon this. I'll take bullets when reviving and then healing because i know i've tanked my suit, and that two guns>one, MY Playstyle is no lesser than yours and does not require me to fit Proto Weapons, if i kill slower that is fine, that is the pay off for being SUPPORT... don't be confusing a broken suit with legitimate play. RPG's traditionally operate under a payoff system. Every advantage is balanced behind a disadvantage. If you want to play slayer logi that is legit, but you will have to sacrifice somewhere along the line. Stop crying about it.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion 1091	Posted - 2013.07.31 07:36:00 - [25] - Quote Fit equipment first. My recipe for logibroing is 1x prototype equipment (I pick the repair tool. Pick your favourite piece of equipment) and 2x advanced equipment. I use this for PC battles, and I do fairly well. After equipment, fit a preferred weapon. I've been using MDs, which use waaay more CPU/PG than ARs. Lastly, fit HP and CPU enhancers. To be honest, a true logibro would fit HP before weapon, but there you go. I'm not a true logibro.
broonfondle majikthies P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 67	Posted - 2013.07.31 07:48:00 - [26] - Quote 10/10 for style but minus several million for good thinking
Gauder Berwyck Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 292	Posted - 2013.07.31 07:58:00 - [27] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: Gauder Berwyck wrote: People seem to make the mistake that killers aren't good team players... The one does not exclude the other from being true. Of course they are, claiming otherwise is stupid. However, what is the focus of the Assault suit? What is the focus of the Logistics suit? Hint, the name gives it away Better yet, pray share with us, how many SP do you have in equipment? What level is your Nanocircuitry and Remote Armore repair (or whatever the skill is called)? 5 for nanocircuitry, 2 for remote repair (armour repairing nanohives ftw), 5 for demolitions, 5 for uplinks and 4 for scanners. The Attorney General wrote: Gauder Berwyck wrote: People seem to make the mistake that killers aren't good team players... The one does not exclude the other from being true. Slayers should be in assault suits, they are best suited for that role. If you have the gun game and twitch reflexes for it, then why are you not in an assault suit being most effective for your team? Oh right, you specced into the OP FotM because it looked better suited to what you wanted to do than the intended role based suit. You specced wrong because you were trying to abuse an OP dropsuit. You pissed away your SP and I am getting a huge laugh out of it. Should have been smart enough to realize that if you wanted to play the assault role you should have specced into an assault suit. I'm a scrub with a KDR of 2+ only. I'm NOT a slayer, but I can hold my own. That's why I'm in a logisuit. I can carry a needle, a nanohive and whatever else the battle requires at the moment (proxies for murder taxis, active scanners for ambush/city fighting and uplinks for anything else. I know my job, but I also know that the better I kill and the longer I stay alive, the better a job I can do. So I realise the power in slayers. Put a logi slayer in a logi suit with more basic equipment than the "trulogi", the slayer logi will get the job done far more often and with more predictable results than the scrub logi. It's common sense.
Gauder Berwyck Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 292	Posted - 2013.07.31 08:00:00 - [28] - Quote Billi Gene wrote: The Best Logi knows that you can't res and clear an area every time, and makes decisions based upon this. I'll take bullets when reviving and then healing because i know i've tanked my suit, and that two guns>one, MY Playstyle is no lesser than yours and does not require me to fit Proto Weapons, if i kill slower that is fine, that is the pay off for being SUPPORT... don't be confusing a broken suit with legitimate play. RPG's traditionally operate under a payoff system. Every advantage is balanced behind a disadvantage. If you want to play slayer logi that is legit, but you will have to sacrifice somewhere along the line. Stop crying about it. I haven't cried about it, I even posted in my first post in this thread that they should have nerfed it MORE to get it to do what CCP wants. I can live with a high-slot nerf too and still kill peeps. Anything else?
XxGhazbaranxX The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 216	Posted - 2013.07.31 08:21:00 - [29] - Quote CCP I ever I see you I will buy you a beer. I am glad this change was made. I'm tired of people using logi suits to be assault wannabe's. I am a Full logi; and if I have to spec into sidearms;which i am doing right now; to be able to fit better equipment, then I will do so. I cannot believe for one second you are a logi. Get an assault suit and try to stay away from fits of the month because you will get nerfed every time.
KingBabar Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback 1003	Posted - 2013.07.31 09:42:00 - [30] - Quote I've known Gauder for 10 years and he's what you'd call a support player, he's not bad at killing, but he will always be the first to do the "dirty" job when required. He is a very good Logi as in Logi. Even he has the the good sense to not gimp his suit in a way that decreases survivability just to fit more fancy equipment. Both of us don't complain about the the Cal logi suit being nerfed, we do however agree that they did it in a wrong way still making the suit an excellent assault suit or a good logi suit and not least a decent enough suit for the much beloved "hybrid" role. CCP could have made a change that influated the assault role, but not at the expence of its logi capabilities. Gauders suggestion of removing a high slot does exactly that. Both of us have always used all of our equipmant slots as best we can. So in short: I still use the same equipment as before, only slightly worse since I've reduced some from proto to enhanced and some from enhanced to standard. My fits are still combat effective, I had many rounds yesterday with 20+kills and only 2-3 deaths... Don't come here and tell me that I'm supposed to swap my Gek for a Duvolle, I'm still a soldier primarily here for winning the fights, me or my enemy is totally useless when we die, killing and survivng will always be the most important part of competitive play. Its not about being a tryhard, If I where I wouldn't have specced into proto hives, scanners and not least drop uplink. I am here to be as effective as I can on the battlefield, I do so by rather keeping that Duvolle as opposed to buffing my nanohive from enhanced to proto, which yelds the best result for both me and my team.

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