Really enjoying seeing the feedback from both sides on this. I am hopeful that this does allow the flaylock to still be used but not so much as a primary as was mentioned above. The fact that you're still able to use the weapon for the purpose it was intended while not feeling like it's a completely useless side is pretty good news.

While there are a lot of differing opinions, they are all appreciated! Thanks!

Hey Mintchip, you all at ccp still realize this sidearm still out dps most every weapon, and is easier to fit than most other sidearms? The weapon is OK balanced now though (would have rather seen a fire rate fix instead of damage) minus being easy to fit, so everyone will still use them over most any other sidearm. 3 shots is still enough to destroy my Gallente armor suit, just takes slightly more skill.

You just ignored everything that was said.
The weapon was nerfed in a way that did not change its standard behaviour. This means that those who used it will still be able to use it in the exact same scenarios. It just won't be as devastatingly effective as it used to be.

If you have a complaint with how it behaves now, then it's clear that you were using this weapon not because you liked the playstyle it excelled in, but precisely because it was OP.

My advice to you.

You just ignored everything that was said.
The weapon was nerfed in a way that did not change its standard behaviour. This means that those who used it will still be able to use it in the exact same scenarios. It just won't be as devastatingly effective as it used to be.

If you have a complaint with how it behaves now, then it's clear that you were using this weapon not because you liked the playstyle it excelled in, but precisely because it was OP.

My advice to you.

At the risk of making this sound like a schoolground yeling match:

I'm not the one avoiding conversation, you are.
You asked for the reason, they gave it. You just aren't happy with the reason.
You say it contradicts itself. It does. That doesn't stop it being the reason.

Sidearms aren't meant to function as a main. Just because a few Eastwoods out there can make use of the scrambler pistol, and just because a few smartypants have figured out how to get the most from their Minny assault bonuses, doesn't put flaylocks on the buff list.

The issue isn't that I don't want to see the other side, the issue is that I've seen it, and it is inadequate.

Skill into the SMG and show us all how it's just as good as the pre-nerf flaylock. Go ahead.
I'm sure the massive surge in its use was just a chance occurrance.

Not entirely true - it does more damage v shields (iirc) and if you put your shots on the target you do hella lot of dmg. Now you can escape the optimal range kind of easy if you have the speed and they havent skilled sharpshooter but the same can be said now for the flaylock because you cant really kill anymore with 1 clip so you will have to reload giving the enemy chance to engage you or retreat.

EDIT: Looked around on here and I see it stated (cant confirm) the SMG does 94% damage to shields where the flaylock does 70%

-> 24 x .94 x 40 (thats half of your clip missing) = 902.4
-> 174 x .7 x 3 = 365.4

Just saying

thats the point. it requires skill.
A. in 1 second a militia SMG does 459 damage.
with a clip of 80, that does a total of 2000 damage in that one clip, thats 20 bullets.
so, 20 bullets from a militia SMG does that much damage.
it takes a flaylock a full clip with aim and timing to do that DPS. (even with direct hits it takes 1.5 seconds to unload a flaylocks clip without taking time to aim. even at that its dps is only in the mid 300s)

B. now factor in that a SMG is a spray to win, weapon and you have your self a deadly bullet hose. with this DPS a milita SMG can tear through 3 std gallente suits in the time it takews a flaylock to harm 1, especially after this nerf.

the flaylocks now are perfectly balanced. i haven't seen anyone but myself, and perhaps 4-5 people using them all day even in PC (i played in the afternoon a bit, went to class, and played a PC, then some more pubs)

many people specced into scrambler pistols, and i saw quite a few ADV SMGs. flaylocks are no where near as deadly as an AR ever was, is, and will be. i speced into them, i got them proto, and i still use the standard and get great results because you can't nerf my skills, and thats what AR noobs are scared of. and be very scared because now i am going to stomp with the breach flaylock!
nobody doubts your skill im sure but the flaylock is not skillful. Its a blast radius weapon. But good to see the Flaylock is no running over primary weapons anymore thank god.

thats the point. it requires skill.
A. in 1 second a militia SMG does 459 damage.
with a clip of 80, that does a total of 2000 damage in that one clip, thats 20 bullets.
so, 20 bullets from a militia SMG does that much damage.
it takes a flaylock a full clip with aim and timing to do that DPS. (even with direct hits it takes 1.5 seconds to unload a flaylocks clip without taking time to aim. even at that its dps is only in the mid 300s)

B. now factor in that a SMG is a spray to win, weapon and you have your self a deadly bullet hose. with this DPS a milita SMG can tear through 3 std gallente suits in the time it takews a flaylock to harm 1, especially after this nerf.

the flaylocks now are perfectly balanced. i haven't seen anyone but myself, and perhaps 4-5 people using them all day even in PC (i played in the afternoon a bit, went to class, and played a PC, then some more pubs)

many people specced into scrambler pistols, and i saw quite a few ADV SMGs. flaylocks are no where near as deadly as an AR ever was, is, and will be. i speced into them, i got them proto, and i still use the standard and get great results because you can't nerf my skills, and thats what AR noobs are scared of. and be very scared because now i am going to stomp with the breach flaylock!