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But What
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Posted - 2013.07.30 13:44:00 -
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due to the current changes, it COMPLETLY screwed up my chr. and would like a skill respec... prolly gonna quit if not possible. |
Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.07.30 14:08:00 -
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What on earth did you spec into to make your character now unplayable? |
But What
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Posted - 2013.07.30 14:14:00 -
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Caldari Assault, AND flaylock... i could handle the flaylock, but the caldari assault alone now is just terrible |
Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.30 14:17:00 -
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But What wrote:Caldari Assault, AND flaylock... i could handle the flaylock, but the caldari assault alone now is just terrible Both still good if you got skills. I got flaylock but i'm not asking for respecs, i'm gonna train myself to become better with the flaylock. It probably won't happen and i'll just get blown my face off with a mass driver or i'll overcome the nerf. I'm not sure about the caldari dropsuit but the flaylock, i'm gonna use. |
But What
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Posted - 2013.07.30 14:32:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:But What wrote:Caldari Assault, AND flaylock... i could handle the flaylock, but the caldari assault alone now is just terrible Both still good if you got skills. I got flaylock but i'm not asking for respecs, i'm gonna train myself to become better with the flaylock. It probably won't happen and i'll just get blown my face off with a mass driver or i'll overcome the nerf. I'm not sure about the caldari dropsuit but the flaylock, i'm gonna use for 1.3.
Oh yeah the flaylock is easily managable. but with all the time i put into caldari assault, and saving up, just to have it pretty much worthless now ....
i dont wanna spec have to wait and save up for another suit to spec in... like that change alone ruined the game for me. I'll be very glad if i could respec, like i wanna continue with the game, but a change like that big (since the suit commands are the most expensive thing) makes me uneasy. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
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Posted - 2013.07.30 15:07:00 -
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wait i though caldari assault proto gets 2% shield bonus per lvl, and you get 25% additional shield if you spec into shielding, if you have the 4 high and 3 low your supposed to get then, you could fit proto shield extenders. with efficacy at lvl thats an additional 10% to your shields. so in total
thats 210 (base) + 264 + 10% (shield extender skill) + 25% (base shield skill increase) + 10% (racial bonus) = 681 shield inaddition with 3 low slots thats 120 (base) + 230 (2 complex armor plates) + 1 basic/enhanced armor rep mod = 350 armor*
so your ehp is 1031.
thats not bad. it will cost you 100,000 isk. so use it sparringly.
still you have cheaper alternatives. you can take a standard caldari suit with 2 and 2 low i believe and with the above proficiencies achieve formidable ehp, at half the price. observe.
210 + 44 (2 militia shield extenders or basic) + 10%+25%+10% = 349 shield 120 + 68 (1 armor plate basic) + 1 militia armor rep mod = 186 armor#
so your ehp will be 535 this will only cost you between 5000+- isk before weaponry is added.
if you are caldari you still can't complain
*if you have lvl armor skill that increases by 25% to 437.5 armor #if you have lvl 5 armor skill that increase by 25% to 233 armor |
But What
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Posted - 2013.07.30 15:16:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:wait i though caldari assault proto gets 2% shield bonus per lvl, and you get 25% additional shield if you spec into shielding, if you have the 4 high and 3 low your supposed to get then, you could fit proto shield extenders. with efficacy at lvl thats an additional 10% to your shields. so in total
assault - +5% shield recharge caldari - (now) +2% shield extender
instead of reload, witch is the reason why i went into caldari, the quicker the bullet i could pump out the less damage i HAVE to take...
changing something that big, they should expect alot of ppl looking for a respec now... |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.30 15:57:00 -
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But What wrote:due to the current changes, it COMPLETLY screwed up my chr. and would like a skill respec... prolly gonna quit if not possible.
Your getting what you deserve for abusing a mechanic that everyone new was broken from the start. No respec for you buddy.
Oh, and if you quit you are welcome to give me all your isk and stuff. |
MJ 420
Nerfed Out
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Posted - 2013.07.30 16:57:00 -
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Agreed , need repspec dramatically. My Cal Logi has all these slots with No CPU now which I can barely fit a proto weapon with proto equiptment, let alone lv 5 modules on it. As well as the shield delay nerf and race specific change. I would much rather spec into Amarr logi. |
Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.07.30 17:56:00 -
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The reload bonus was hardly that amazing in the first place but the shield buff is really good. Why don't you try playing it a bit (like a week or two) before you write it off like this. In any case, the change is hardly game-breaking for you - oh no it takes half a second longer to reload now but I can tank for at least an extra second of damage! |
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
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Posted - 2013.07.30 18:32:00 -
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MJ 420 wrote:Agreed , need repspec dramatically. My Cal Logi has all these slots with No CPU now which I can barely fit a proto weapon with proto equiptment, let alone lv 5 modules on it. As well as the shield delay nerf and race specific change. I would much rather spec into Amarr logi.
I can't fit all proto on my proto Minmatar Logi and I have 17 mil SP. Should I feel bad for you? The suit was balanced and now you get to make compromises. |
Bettie Boop 2100190003
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.30 19:34:00 -
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So But What is But hurt that his win But en was changed?
The But hurt But What threatens what, quitting but wants a respec...
But NO
The lesson you can all learn from But hurt But What, if you don't have the extra SP to spec into the flavor of the month, DONT. |
D3LTA iKidd'YuNOT
D3LTA FORC3 Inver Brass
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Posted - 2013.07.30 19:39:00 -
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To the idiot talking about Complex Armor plates on the Cal Logi. STFU There is no Logi suit in this game that can fit all proto Plates AND Shields. Its either/or because you will have to put CPU and/or Pg upgrades on to fit anything. And with this Nerf my proto Cal Logi suit cant even fit enough on it. My proto Cal Assault can Tank more than my Logi suit by 100+. How is that right for a suit thats supposed to be able to survive behind a Heavy? In order to put three equipments on my suit I have To use Pg AND CPU upgrades on which kills my tanking ability. How you gonna nerf 1 Logi suit and NOT nerf any others? Now all you did was make the Cal Logi more useful as an Assault. Because People gonna just lose all the Equipment but 1 to Clear up more CPU. You did nothing to Nerf the Cal Logi Assault runners... You only hurt the TRUE Logi runners. Thanks alot CCP... Now wheres my Respec so I can Go Ammar Logi |
But What
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:21:00 -
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Could someone from the Dev team, let me know if its possible or not. |
Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.07.30 21:40:00 -
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D3LTA iKidd'YuNOT wrote:To the idiot talking about Complex Armor plates on the Cal Logi. STFU There is no Logi suit in this game that can fit all proto Plates AND Shields. Its either/or because you will have to put CPU and/or Pg upgrades on to fit anything. And with this Nerf my proto Cal Logi suit cant even fit enough on it. My proto Cal Assault can Tank more than my Logi suit by 100+. How is that right for a suit thats supposed to be able to survive behind a Heavy? In order to put three equipments on my suit I have To use Pg AND CPU upgrades on which kills my tanking ability. How you gonna nerf 1 Logi suit and NOT nerf any others? Now all you did was make the Cal Logi more useful as an Assault. Because People gonna just lose all the Equipment but 1 to Clear up more CPU. You did nothing to Nerf the Cal Logi Assault runners... You only hurt the TRUE Logi runners. Thanks alot CCP... Now wheres my Respec so I can Go Ammar Logi Stop running proto weapons on your logi suits. Simple.
I love how many calogi players are complaining about their nerfing but then say they're going to have to drop some equipment but not their duvolle. It shows the true colours of these 'logis' when they'd rather drop the things intended for them than the big expensive weapon that they really want to be running. |
Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.07.30 21:41:00 -
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But What wrote:Could someone from the Dev team, let me know if its possible or not. It's not possible. CCP unequivocally stated when the last respec option was given out that that was the very last opportunity to respec. It's not going to happen, especially since there's nothing wrong with your caldari assault suit that wasn't even nerfed! |
Herman Hardon
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:38:00 -
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CCP can change anything , including sell you aur gear that states you will have this many to use per unit . Then take 2 thirds away from you and there is nothing you can do about it ! They are protected , and unwilling to except resposiblity for there errors !
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RAGING GIGGLES
Hostile Acquisition Inc The Superpowers
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Posted - 2013.07.30 23:46:00 -
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Herman is entirely correct, i could live with my caldari logi suit changes, almost, but to take the 1000 fused locus grenades and 200 cavity grenades i BOUGHT and turn them into useless duds, is unforgiveable, i only recently started checking forums and commenting, not everyone stays on the internet to find everything out, i spent 1.5 million sp + on caldari logi before i found out they were going to change it. The bottom line is, You didn't think things through ccp, or test enough on your closed servers, but our time, sp, and REAL money has to suffer without any recourse?? It is not fair, and expect to lose even more players if you dont offer some sort of respec. I have supported this game with over 400 dollars and i am supremely disappointed.. |
RAGING GIGGLES
Hostile Acquisition Inc The Superpowers
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Posted - 2013.07.30 23:56:00 -
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In addendum: the 5 garbage militia suits you gave me to compensate me for spending a month and a half to get caldari logi to lvl 4 or eliminating the nades i purchased is an insult, please take them back |
But What
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Posted - 2013.07.31 00:29:00 -
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RAGING GIGGLES wrote:Herman is entirely correct, i could live with my caldari logi suit changes, almost, but to take the 1000 fused locus grenades and 200 cavity grenades i BOUGHT and turn them into useless duds, is unforgiveable, i only recently started checking forums and commenting, not everyone stays on the internet to find everything out, i spent 1.5 million sp + on caldari logi before i found out they were going to change it. The bottom line is, You didn't think things through ccp, or test enough on your closed servers, but our time, sp, and REAL money has to suffer without any recourse?? It is not fair, and expect to lose even more players if you dont offer some sort of respec. I have supported this game with over 400 dollars and i am supremely disappointed..
This is the EXACT reason why i want a respec .... |
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Bulletmonkey50
Fallen Disciples The Minmatar Evolutionares
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Posted - 2013.07.31 02:27:00 -
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So i have a couple things to say on this one, not that my opinion s superior to any of yours.
I'm a cal logi, and quit your complaining, its really not that bad, if you don't have your core electronics and power grid leveled up then that's where you went wrong, plus all you really have to do is slap a CPU mod in the low slot we really shouldn't have.
The regulator bonus is fine too, only need one or two regulators to fix the new shield recharge times.
I think the suit is closer to being balanced than before, now people can't make them glass cannons. Well... ok they can, but not as well i hope.
And the people complaining should read the dev blogs and such, you'd then know that this is a temporary fix. bonuses to equipment performance will come soon, they don't have the proper code to establish bonuses like that yet. and the current bonuses we have now will be ironed out.
And i think the grenades that were purchased with aurum should be refunded, with the grenades being taken away of course, because the new grenades aren't worth the fitting requirements. |
Funky Chunky
EchoTeam
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Posted - 2013.07.31 02:53:00 -
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I agree we should have a respec, when I first went into playing Dust I wasn't sure exactly how things work, and now that I do, I don't have the skill points I need. I mean the placement is okay but it's to sparatic and wasn't exactly what I need. my only question is that if they do have a skill respec button what would happen to your corp you made? They would have to make it where respec-ing didn't effect corps, but they should definitely have one. |
LCB Holdings
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.31 03:41:00 -
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But What wrote:RAGING GIGGLES wrote:Herman is entirely correct, i could live with my caldari logi suit changes, almost, but to take the 1000 fused locus grenades and 200 cavity grenades i BOUGHT and turn them into useless duds, is unforgiveable, i only recently started checking forums and commenting, not everyone stays on the internet to find everything out, i spent 1.5 million sp + on caldari logi before i found out they were going to change it. The bottom line is, You didn't think things through ccp, or test enough on your closed servers, but our time, sp, and REAL money has to suffer without any recourse?? It is not fair, and expect to lose even more players if you dont offer some sort of respec. I have supported this game with over 400 dollars and i am supremely disappointed.. This is the EXACT reason why i want a respec ....
it is not a bug, it is just CCPs big F you. If you dislike the developer you might want to leave the game. |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.31 03:52:00 -
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If you leave the game please send all your monies to Mobius Kaethis. |
But What
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Posted - 2013.07.31 12:55:00 -
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I would even be happy if they could take away the skills i spent on caldari med and assault, and gave me the skill points i spent on it :) |
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