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Psychotic Shooter
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.26 01:45:00 -
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Ok CCP every one hate bunny hopping and there is a perfect way to fix it
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Turn Jump Into a Climb and Vault button no jumping i run at a metal and vault the faster your going the faster the vault
SIMPLE CCP WHY DID YOU PUT JUMP BUTTON IN ANYWAY |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
373
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Posted - 2013.07.26 03:41:00 -
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I think that there should be a vault system, jump shouldn't be removed.
Bunny hopping is a valid tactic for evading hitscan weapons like the AR or SMG. |
Shae Daix
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2013.07.26 03:42:00 -
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Psychotic Shooter wrote:Ok CCP every one hate bunny hopping and there is a perfect way to fix it
HERE
Turn Jump Into a Climb and Vault button no jumping i run at a metal and vault the faster your going the faster the vault
SIMPLE CCP WHY DID YOU PUT JUMP BUTTON IN ANYWAY
Make it cost stamina. Maybe it already does, I never looked. but if that's the case it not enough. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
1479
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Posted - 2013.07.26 03:47:00 -
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Shae Daix wrote:Psychotic Shooter wrote:Ok CCP every one hate bunny hopping and there is a perfect way to fix it
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Turn Jump Into a Climb and Vault button no jumping i run at a metal and vault the faster your going the faster the vault
SIMPLE CCP WHY DID YOU PUT JUMP BUTTON IN ANYWAY Make it cost stamina. Maybe it already does, I never looked. but if that's the case it not enough.
I can only do two full jumps and 1 half jump before my stamina runs out. |
Gorgoth24Reborn
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.07.26 07:02:00 -
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The issue is generally with quick logi suits with enormous stamina bars. This issue got indirectly nerfed when the shotgun took a hit, but is still immersion-breaking
But hopefully the aim improvements in 1.4 will make bunny hopping less viable |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
275
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Posted - 2013.07.26 07:21:00 -
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Not sure how popular this suggestion will be, but one option I haven't heard suggested is to make jumping more "floaty" and slower. By this I mean increasing both the height and more importantly the amount of time spent in the air. Think of it as jumping on a planet with slightly lower gravity than earth.
What this does is it takes away the ability to quickly move up and down (bunny hopping) and also makes you more vulnerable because you'll have much more hang time. An added bonus is that you might be able to jump over things like LAVs.
Overall it should make jumping more effective as a traversal tool and less effective in combat. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
1066
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Posted - 2013.07.26 08:00:00 -
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If you removed jumping you wouldn't be able to get past little steep bits of terrain, even if they're only 1 foot high. You'd also be completely unable to get inside some null cannons and over other tiny steps or jumpable gaps. Bunny hopping is sometimes annoying and really quite silly but seeing as we have no ability to dive around to avoid fire, it's the next best thing. What should be done is that jumping should have a cooldown of a second or two, so you can't just jump around like mad; each jump requires time to steady yourself before another jump. |
Lucifalic
Baked n Loaded
21
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Posted - 2013.07.26 09:40:00 -
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you should try aiming maybe?
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Captain Wontubulous
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
34
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:13:00 -
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I really hope you're trolling. If not, you really don't belong in FPS games. You need something a little slower paced like solitaire or something. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
691
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:44:00 -
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Agreed with captain....anyone who wants jumping removed or nerfed even more needs to go back to playing a game more there speed as Dust is obviously too fast paced for you (BTW Dust is slow paced for an FPS).
Jumping already depletes stamina (it shouldnt but CCP decided they didnt want ppl jumping around a whole lot yet then they make so many objects on the ground that can only be gotten through by jumping....) on top of that jumping doesnt deplete certain amount of stamina but it depletes a certain percentage of your entire stamina. Thus Assaults/Scouts/Logis/Heavys can all jump the exact same number of times before the stamina is depleted (only difference is height and speed of stamina regen). |
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Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
363
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:00:00 -
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Gorgoth24Reborn wrote:The issue is generally with quick logi suits with enormous stamina bars. This issue got indirectly nerfed when the shotgun took a hit, but is still immersion-breaking
But hopefully the aim improvements in 1.4 will make bunny hopping less viable
Logis have less stamina than and are slower than assaults though... |
Psychotic Shooter
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
116
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:39:00 -
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First i can shoot and aim
Second it is not a valid tactic since jumping wont save you in real life
Third you can jump even when you bar is depleted its just small |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3476
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:57:00 -
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1. Even scouts can only do about 2-3 jumps at the most.
2. Stamina recovery has been nerfed if you haven't noticed by now.
3. Jumping only makes the user easier to shoot at because now you know where they are going to land. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
374
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Posted - 2013.07.26 17:04:00 -
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Psychotic Shooter wrote:First i can shoot and aim
Second it is not a valid tactic since jumping wont save you in real life
Third you can jump even when you bar is depleted its just small
Yes, but its a fricking Game!
If we wanted real life I'd go and Join the Army
If we wanted real life, make every gun OHK.
IF we wanted real life we wouldn't be playing a game, now would we?
With the fixes to Aim Assist coming, Bunny hopping will be less annoying.
Its probably just annoying cause Aim assist isn't quite Assisting. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3476
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Posted - 2013.07.26 17:05:00 -
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Psychotic Shooter wrote:First i can shoot and aim
Second it is not a valid tactic since jumping wont save you in real life
Third you can jump even when you bar is depleted its just small
1. Good.
2. By that argument, lasers rifles shouldn't exist because we don't have such weapons that can be carried by real-world infantry in a portable manner that doesn't require a Humvee. For that matter, inertia dampening shouldn't be in the game since real world soldiers don't land so quickly onto the ground and have to deal with detaching their parachutes before actually being useful. Hell, might as well take away nanite injectors as well since there is no that a combat medic in the world can revive a downed soldier and making him able to stand up on his two legs and be able to sprint away in no time.
3. You are right. You can still jump. But the jump is so small that most of us here don't even count it as a jump. It's more like skip than a jump. |
Captain Wontubulous
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
36
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:12:00 -
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Psychotic Shooter wrote:First i can shoot and aim
Second it is not a valid tactic since jumping wont save you in real life
Third you can jump even when you bar is depleted its just small
If someone tries to shoot you in the face and you jump it won't save your life? How does that even make sense?
Second Jumping increases the hit box of your vitals. As a person's angle get's higher headshots and torso shots become the general only areas to hit. It's a very valid tactic. If you want to become better in any FPS you need to learn to use bunny hopping or dives or whatever quick move mechanic they have to make it so you don't get shot in the head. Otherwise you will only ever be mediocre. This is just another example of someone wanting a mechanic removed because they can't get the skill to get by it themselves in the game. Saying it's illogical is just a cop out. This is the far distant future, anything that helps us get more kills or die less is a logical decision as warfare and combat will have adapted by then. Especially since our suits allow for things such as jumping higher and faster. Why would we not also adapt to use these mechanics? |
Psychotic Shooter
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
116
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Posted - 2013.07.26 23:54:00 -
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Captain Wontubulous wrote:Psychotic Shooter wrote:First i can shoot and aim
Second it is not a valid tactic since jumping wont save you in real life
Third you can jump even when you bar is depleted its just small If someone tries to shoot you in the face and you jump it won't save your life? How does that even make sense? Second Jumping increases the hit box of your vitals. As a person's angle get's higher headshots and torso shots become the general only areas to hit. It's a very valid tactic. If you want to become better in any FPS you need to learn to use bunny hopping or dives or whatever quick move mechanic they have to make it so you don't get shot in the head. Otherwise you will only ever be mediocre. This is just another example of someone wanting a mechanic removed because they can't get the skill to get by it themselves in the game. Saying it's illogical is just a cop out. This is the far distant future, anything that helps us get more kills or die less is a logical decision as warfare and combat will have adapted by then. Especially since our suits allow for things such as jumping higher and faster. Why would we not also adapt to use these mechanics?
Dude im am good at FPS not because i bunny hop or skip whatever you call it im good at FPS because i use proper Army TACTICS Squad tactics |
Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.07.26 23:57:00 -
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Psychotic Shooter wrote:Ok CCP every one hate bunny hopping and there is a perfect way to fix it
HERE
Turn Jump Into a Climb and Vault button no jumping i run at a metal and vault the faster your going the faster the vault
SIMPLE CCP WHY DID YOU PUT JUMP BUTTON IN ANYWAY
TO CLIMB MOUNTAINS AND STOP USING CAPS "CCP" DON'T LIKE READING PEOPLE WITH CAPS |
Captain Wontubulous
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
37
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Posted - 2013.07.27 00:30:00 -
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Psychotic Shooter wrote:Captain Wontubulous wrote:Psychotic Shooter wrote:First i can shoot and aim
Second it is not a valid tactic since jumping wont save you in real life
Third you can jump even when you bar is depleted its just small If someone tries to shoot you in the face and you jump it won't save your life? How does that even make sense? Second Jumping increases the hit box of your vitals. As a person's angle get's higher headshots and torso shots become the general only areas to hit. It's a very valid tactic. If you want to become better in any FPS you need to learn to use bunny hopping or dives or whatever quick move mechanic they have to make it so you don't get shot in the head. Otherwise you will only ever be mediocre. This is just another example of someone wanting a mechanic removed because they can't get the skill to get by it themselves in the game. Saying it's illogical is just a cop out. This is the far distant future, anything that helps us get more kills or die less is a logical decision as warfare and combat will have adapted by then. Especially since our suits allow for things such as jumping higher and faster. Why would we not also adapt to use these mechanics? Dude im am good at FPS not because i bunny hop or skip whatever you call it im good at FPS because i use proper Army TACTICS Squad tactics
If you're having such a problem with bunny hopping that you want the jump function removed I'm not so sure this is a valid statement... |
Pete B
D.A.R.K Academy
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
26
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:32:00 -
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Well I can agree hat bunny hopping is pretty stupid and annoying, and I am all in for the removal of jumping outright, and using a vaulting system BUT.
How bout a dodge move instead? Something that will let you sidestep really quickly, or even a system where your first second of sprinting is 100% faster than your normal sprint speed.
Another reason I am in favour for a vaulting system, because it might just add in a parkour element where scouts could wall run slightly to get to higher places than heavies. |
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Pugnacious Turtle
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
0
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:39:00 -
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Psychotic Shooter wrote:Ok CCP every one hate bunny hopping and there is a perfect way to fix it
HERE
Turn Jump Into a Climb and Vault button no jumping i run at a metal and vault the faster your going the faster the vault
SIMPLE CCP WHY DID YOU PUT JUMP BUTTON IN ANYWAY
Spoken like an AR user... Has it really come to the point where AR users are trying to get game mechanics changed so they can kill stuff easier?
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Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
381
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:50:00 -
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Pugnacious Turtle wrote:Psychotic Shooter wrote:Ok CCP every one hate bunny hopping and there is a perfect way to fix it
HERE
Turn Jump Into a Climb and Vault button no jumping i run at a metal and vault the faster your going the faster the vault
SIMPLE CCP WHY DID YOU PUT JUMP BUTTON IN ANYWAY Spoken like an AR user... Has it really come to the point where AR users are trying to get game mechanics changed so they can kill stuff easier?
Yes, yes it has, sadly... |
Fang 95
Immortal Shinigami
2
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Posted - 2013.07.27 03:04:00 -
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Psychotic Shooter wrote:First i can shoot and aim
Second it is not a valid tactic since jumping wont save you in real life
Third you can jump even when you bar is depleted its just small
its a futuristic shooter game where people have laser weaponery, high tech power suits and more this isnt exactly real life idiot -_- at least not yet |
Captain Wontubulous
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
55
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:04:00 -
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Pugnacious Turtle wrote:Psychotic Shooter wrote:Ok CCP every one hate bunny hopping and there is a perfect way to fix it
HERE
Turn Jump Into a Climb and Vault button no jumping i run at a metal and vault the faster your going the faster the vault
SIMPLE CCP WHY DID YOU PUT JUMP BUTTON IN ANYWAY Spoken like an AR user... Has it really come to the point where AR users are trying to get game mechanics changed so they can kill stuff easier?
Haven't they been doing this all along? Pretty soon there will be a petition going around for ARs to destroy tanks. |
Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
226
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:36:00 -
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My AR already destroys tanks, should I make a petition about it? The bunny hopping is a defense mechanic that works fine, I kill 'em when they land. Vaulting is an action that CCP has said would waste valuable time programming in to get it right that could otherwise be used for core gameplay mechanics. There is already a climb button. How many times have you had a lip on the ground that you have had to jump over to get around? If you can't follow your target and kill them when they hit the ground then you are doing it wrong. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
23
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:07:00 -
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Psychotic Shooter wrote:Ok CCP every one hate bunny hopping and there is a perfect way to fix it
HERE
Turn Jump Into a Climb and Vault button no jumping i a metal and vault the faster your going the faster the vault
SIMPLE CCP WHY DID YOU PUT JUMP BUTTON IN ANYWAY
Lawl is this a troll? I hope you know if you remove jump this will follow.
Lavs are going to run you over even more. Mass drivers will kill you so easy and people will cry op even more.
Seriously nerf jump? I heard forge gun, md, even the nova knife as being op. But now jump? Ccp ignore all nerf threads. enjoy getting ran over by lavs cause you cant jump out of the fking way lol |
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