DUST Search - This game needs PvE, like now

FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:

PvP games survive 1 year with new maps, maybe some new items (guns, swords, w/e), and new gameplay modes. After 1~2 years the game becomes stale and repetitive. Even if you add new modes and maps it all goes to the same thing you've being doing since you bought the game. It gets boring.

If you want your game to survive it needs more than just maps and guns. PvE can help the game survive because it adds more gameplay options. Story is a basic that keeps people hooked. Lots of interesting sidequests alone can add +200 hours play time. A long campaign and yearly PvE expansions is what will keep this game alive for +10 years.

How can PvE be implemented and how will it work? I have this vision like it could be like PS2, Destiny or even Final Fantasy. You have your room in the ship, ships are like cities. You travel to any planets with the star chart menu. Once you arrive in the planet it's all open world. There could be merc vs merc battles in the cities (the maps that we have). Or in another district there's a drone infestation. Or simply you go down there to explore a cave and gather resources (mining). What about some ancient ruins, an abandoned city. If I remember Red Dead Redemption has this type of gameplay although it was very straight forward since it wasn't an MMO. But it mixed PvP with PvE.

But this isn't even in the short term roadmap. I have the feeling this thing won't get implemented until late 2014. I fear Dust will soon become ghost town. I'll surely come back once PvE gets released and will most likely be hooked for months and maybe years.

-XOXO

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FATPrincess - XOXO Shining Flame Amarr Empire 275	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:46:00 - [1] - Quote PvP games survive 1 year with new maps, maybe some new items (guns, swords, w/e), and new gameplay modes. After 1~2 years the game becomes stale and repetitive. Even if you add new modes and maps it all goes to the same thing you've being doing since you bought the game. It gets boring. If you want your game to survive it needs more than just maps and guns. PvE can help the game survive because it adds more gameplay options. Story is a basic that keeps people hooked. Lots of interesting sidequests alone can add +200 hours play time. A long campaign and yearly PvE expansions is what will keep this game alive for +10 years. How can PvE be implemented and how will it work? I have this vision like it could be like PS2, Destiny or even Final Fantasy. You have your room in the ship, ships are like cities. You travel to any planets with the star chart menu. Once you arrive in the planet it's all open world. There could be merc vs merc battles in the cities (the maps that we have). Or in another district there's a drone infestation. Or simply you go down there to explore a cave and gather resources (mining). What about some ancient ruins, an abandoned city. If I remember Red Dead Redemption has this type of gameplay although it was very straight forward since it wasn't an MMO. But it mixed PvP with PvE. But this isn't even in the short term roadmap. I have the feeling this thing won't get implemented until late 2014. I fear Dust will soon become ghost town. I'll surely come back once PvE gets released and will most likely be hooked for months and maybe years. -XOXO
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1440	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:48:00 - [2] - Quote CCP said PvE was supposed to come out in the winter but I don't know now since they have changed their roadmap quite a bit.
2-Ton Twenty-One Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 852	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:51:00 - [3] - Quote This game needs proper PVP mode before PVE. PVE would just be a half finished implementation devoid of any reason to do it. Why is it this game from 2006 has a better version of our MMC skirmish maps? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk4wEAO07hM&list=PLF5D8E08635D35F64&index=1 Can board enemy MCC, with commander mode, MCC turrets and mobile MCC. Oh and graphics comparable to dust.
FATPrincess - XOXO Shining Flame Amarr Empire 275	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:57:00 - [4] - Quote 2-Ton Twenty-One wrote: This game needs proper PVP mode before PVE. PVE would just be a half finished implementation devoid of any reason to do it. Why is it this game from 2006 has a better version of our MMC skirmish maps? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk4wEAO07hM&list=PLF5D8E08635D35F64&index=1 Can board enemy MCC, with commander mode, MCC turrets and mobile MCC. Agreed, PvP has to be more dynamic. They still have to add proper helicopter-like aircraft, jets, MAVs, M-TACs, all the racial variants of suits and guns, more tank variants, artillery, more guns (carbines, battle rifles, etc.) But until they add all that we're still playing the same, boring game. -XOXO
Django Quik R.I.f.t 1052	Posted - 2013.07.25 09:32:00 - [5] - Quote I'd love PVE and personally think it should have been one of the things available at launch but with the current roadmap, it's not something I can see happening anytime soon. More likely, I could see it coming as part of the next major patch after we're all done with the Uprising 1.x updates, so winter I guess...
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 833	Posted - 2013.07.25 11:04:00 - [6] - Quote 2-Ton Twenty-One wrote: This game needs proper PVP mode before PVE. PVE would just be a half finished implementation devoid of any reason to do it. Why is it this game from 2006 has a better version of our MMC skirmish maps? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk4wEAO07hM&list=PLF5D8E08635D35F64&index=1 Can board enemy MCC, with commander mode, MCC turrets and mobile MCC. Oh and graphics comparable to dust. Yup correct on all accounts.... the ****** PvP meta, with lack of complete core content, and lack of general things to do are really making me cynical about this game....
Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven EoN. 16	Posted - 2013.07.25 11:25:00 - [7] - Quote sassy title n ehh PvE is for peeps who are less experienced but would b cool to have it
Django Quik R.I.f.t 1052	Posted - 2013.07.25 11:47:00 - [8] - Quote Shadow of War88 wrote: sassy title n ehh PvE is for peeps who are less experienced but would b cool to have it Not at all - PVE is provide people with something else to do; variety is what keeps MMOs interesting.
Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven EoN. 16	Posted - 2013.07.25 11:49:00 - [9] - Quote nope fps not mmo
Django Quik R.I.f.t 1052	Posted - 2013.07.25 11:51:00 - [10] - Quote Shadow of War88 wrote: nope fps not mmo Maybe right now because it has nothing else to do but it is intended to be an MMO as well as an FPS, no matter what some players' opinions may be.

Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 124	Posted - 2013.07.25 11:55:00 - [11] - Quote PvE Won't have side missions and story. If you want this, you're playing the wrong game. In the Eve Universe the players write the story. CCP already said something about PvE tying in with nullsec in Eve Online. Dusties fighting for resources on the ground and something like that.
DoomLead Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 142	Posted - 2013.07.25 11:55:00 - [12] - Quote 2-Ton Twenty-One wrote: This game needs proper PVP mode before PVE. PVE would just be a half finished implementation devoid of any reason to do it. Why is it this game from 2006 has a better version of our MMC skirmish maps? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk4wEAO07hM&list=PLF5D8E08635D35F64&index=1 Can board enemy MCC, with commander mode, MCC turrets and mobile MCC. Oh and graphics comparable to dust. even better check this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j_t_HfLSBs
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 356	Posted - 2013.07.25 12:02:00 - [13] - Quote I hope that the PVE will not be only a tower defense mode, i mean a tower defense should be there but i would like to see a story mode and as i said before, they should take inspiration from Half Life.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5466	Posted - 2013.07.25 12:33:00 - [14] - Quote I want PvE so I can get away from all you pansies and just enjoy some quality time to myself
We are 138 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 156	Posted - 2013.07.25 12:39:00 - [15] - Quote Man I would buy the hell out of the game you described OP, but sad fact is is CCP is a small company thats trying to churn this out on the fly. IMO dust is an awesome game but its months away from even being finished, we dont even have all of the things that were intended to be here. I will keep playing but I'm kinda dumb plus what else is there to play? I will always come back to dust but every one needs a vacation if you are tired of it move on and play something else. But you are here for the same reason as me, I have never played a game with so much potential and i want to be here when the real sh*t goes down
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 116	Posted - 2013.07.25 12:41:00 - [16] - Quote CCP GIVE US PVE ITS TIME ALREADY, AT LEAST A LITTLE TASTE OF IT
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 197	Posted - 2013.07.25 12:42:00 - [17] - Quote FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: PvP games survive 1 year with new maps, maybe some new items (guns, swords, w/e), and new gameplay modes. After 1~2 years the game becomes stale and repetitive. Even if you add new modes and maps it all goes to the same thing you've being doing since you bought the game. It gets boring. Counterstrike is calling, its wants you to know you're wrong.
CrotchGrab 360 187. League of Infamy 153	Posted - 2013.07.25 12:44:00 - [18] - Quote I would like this. The game interests me but my internet is so shocking that I have an instant disadvantage to most people playing.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 739	Posted - 2013.07.25 12:44:00 - [19] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Shadow of War88 wrote: nope fps not mmo Maybe right now because it has nothing else to do but it is intended to be an MMO as well as an FPS, no matter what some players' opinions may be. Preach it!! Death to the Lobby Shooter!!
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 726	Posted - 2013.07.25 12:49:00 - [20] - Quote I hate to break this to those that think ccp can make this game into ANOTHER game, but this game is already out. and it's a lobby shooter. Open world? Don't hold breath for that one. What they should and probably are doing is looking for the strengths of a lobby shooters, be it adding AI bots, missions, new modes, new maps. ext. Then figure a way to incorporate more of a connection with eve through that. "But ccp are game DEVS! they can make this game any way they want!" Yeah.... you go believing that.

Acezero 44 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 112	Posted - 2013.07.25 13:19:00 - [21] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: I hate to break this to those that think ccp can make this game into ANOTHER game, but this game is already out. and it's a lobby shooter. Open world? Don't hold breath for that one. What they should and probably are doing is looking for the strengths of a lobby shooters, be it adding AI bots, missions, new modes, new maps. ext. Then figure a way to incorporate more of a connection with eve through that. "But ccp are game DEVS! they can make this game any way they want!" Yeah.... you go believing that. Open world ? no, I could be happy with some 16 man pve faction raids, or 4 man mission crawls,. all the concepts are done in eve, "deadspace" mission gates and plex's, etc Im also going to refer back to global agenda,Defense Raid I think they had a solid system for entertaining lobby players, I think eve with its lore and Devs could do this 100x better.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy WE ARE LEGENDS 181	Posted - 2013.07.25 13:27:00 - [22] - Quote I want mining and common market. Buying and reselling is one of the the most thrilling process of an MMO. You see, you put your money on the line to buy an item for a price Y and sell for the price 1.2 Y make profit, repeat. Or you get stuck with items until someone buys them at your loss.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 778	Posted - 2013.07.25 13:35:00 - [23] - Quote FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: PvP games survive 1 year with new maps, maybe some new items (guns, swords, w/e), and new gameplay modes. After 1~2 years the game becomes stale and repetitive. Even if you add new modes and maps it all goes to the same thing you've being doing since you bought the game. It gets boring. If you want your game to survive it needs more than just maps and guns. PvE can help the game survive because it adds more gameplay options. Story is a basic that keeps people hooked. Lots of interesting sidequests alone can add +200 hours play time. A long campaign and yearly PvE expansions is what will keep this game alive for +10 years. How can PvE be implemented and how will it work? I have this vision like it could be like PS2, Destiny or even Final Fantasy. You have your room in the ship, ships are like cities. You travel to any planets with the star chart menu. Once you arrive in the planet it's all open world. There could be merc vs merc battles in the cities (the maps that we have). Or in another district there's a drone infestation. Or simply you go down there to explore a cave and gather resources (mining). What about some ancient ruins, an abandoned city. If I remember Red Dead Redemption has this type of gameplay although it was very straight forward since it wasn't an MMO. But it mixed PvP with PvE. But this isn't even in the short term roadmap. I have the feeling this thing won't get implemented until late 2014. I fear Dust will soon become ghost town. I'll surely come back once PvE gets released and will most likely be hooked for months and maybe years. -XOXO +1 Red Dead was fun and mixed PvP with PvE. I would think the ultimate goal is to be able to go to any district ant anytime. If not then it isn't a sandbox. Segregate the battles by sec stats and just let us go to the planet we want, screw match making. I want to got pve on the district I want and if some other teams shows up I better put out or get out. I want random encounters with mercs in squad while I am blasting drones. I want to ambush others killing drones. Sometimes I might just watch. Let us make our own conflicts and drama. Give us some tools, tweak them out and watch us have fun.
2-Ton Twenty-One Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 853	Posted - 2013.07.25 13:48:00 - [24] - Quote DoomLead wrote: 2-Ton Twenty-One wrote: This game needs proper PVP mode before PVE. PVE would just be a half finished implementation devoid of any reason to do it. Why is it this game from 2006 has a better version of our MMC skirmish maps? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk4wEAO07hM&list=PLF5D8E08635D35F64&index=1 Can board enemy MCC, with commander mode, MCC turrets and mobile MCC. Oh and graphics comparable to dust. even better check this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j_t_HfLSBs HOLY SHITBALLS!!! Why the ** are we not playing THAT GAME!!!!! Its DUST on ***** steroids!!!
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 727	Posted - 2013.07.25 15:58:00 - [25] - Quote The last thing dust needs is for BATTLEFIELD 2142 to come out as a DLC for BF4. Think Vietnam. or return to karkland. We all know dice loves the sci-fi genre. and revisiting old BF. I wouldn't be surprised if they did. Speaking of dice.. heard they are making this little known game called Star wars battlefront.


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