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          Roldrage 
          DIOS X. II Top Men.
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 13:05:00 -
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          Looking to upgrade my toxin to the ADV smg, is the damage increase worth the SP investment? | 
      
      
      
          
          pdiddy anfama 
          KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 13:08:00 -
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          Depends. It really doesn't start mattering until you get the optimization up. | 
      
      
      
          
          Son-Of A-Gun 
          3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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          Roldrage wrote:Looking to upgrade my toxin to the ADV smg, is the damage increase worth the SP investment?  
  "ADV smg worth it?"
  Yes.
  Be sure to use the assault though. It's the only way to fly.
  However, the breach does have its charms. | 
      
      
      
          
          richiesutie 2 
          Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 13:14:00 -
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          Definitely. | 
      
      
      
          
          CHICAGOCUBS4EVER 
          TeamPlayers EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 13:14:00 -
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          adv? na... if u are gonna level it get proto. and operation proficiency is what makes your toxin a beast! | 
      
      
      
          
          Roldrage 
          DIOS X. II Top Men.
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 13:14:00 -
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          Cool, I was looking for a way to improve my plasma cannon fits and I reckon this could be my best way, thanks. | 
      
      
      
          
          2100 Angels 
          The Southern Legion
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 13:30:00 -
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          100% worth it. On one of my speed fits I run dual adv smg and it is lethal if you use it tactically. Much better than the standard, though I've never used the toxin. | 
      
      
      
          
          WUT ANG 
          D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 13:34:00 -
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          The m209 is very nice and the ishukone assau. Is great | 
      
      
      
          
          Knight Soiaire 
          Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 13:36:00 -
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          I use the M512-A (Dont have the SP for Assault yet   ) and I run two on my Scout suit with a Flux and REs.
  I like it, I use it when Shotgun aiming doesn't work for me, because every shot doesn't have to hit with the SMG   | 
      
      
      
          
          Cyrius Li-Moody 
          The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 13:37:00 -
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          Some dude went 30/2 last night just with SMGs in a match. Bananas. | 
      
      
      
          
          Aqua-Regia 
          Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 13:42:00 -
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          yes, go for it | 
      
      
      
          
          ladwar 
          Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 13:43:00 -
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          yes if you plan on using it. | 
      
      
      
          
          Kekklian Noobatronic 
          Goonfeet Top Men.
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 13:45:00 -
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          Short answer: Yes. | 
      
      
      
          
          XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO 
          Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 15:02:00 -
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          yes 
  take it to lvl 5 
  lvl up your ss skills and pro skills | 
      
      
      
          
          Forlorn Destrier 
          Bullet Cluster
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          2100 Angels wrote:100% worth it. On one of my speed fits I run dual adv smg and it is lethal if you use it tactically. Much better than the standard, though I've never used the toxin.  
  Toxin = Standard BPO | 
      
      
      
          
          Scheneighnay McBob 
          Bojo's School of the Trades
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 16:01:00 -
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          If you use your SMG alot, it's definitely worth it. SMGs are amazing in cqc | 
      
      
      
          
          Cody Sietz 
          Bullet Cluster
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 16:02:00 -
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          A buddy of mine is a beast with the proto SMG. He uses it as his main. | 
      
      
      
          
          Daxxis KANNAH 
          Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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          Cody Sietz wrote:A buddy of mine is a beast with the proto SMG. He uses it as his main.  
  But but - we cant have that. | 
      
      
      
          
          Cody Sietz 
          Bullet Cluster
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          Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:A buddy of mine is a beast with the proto SMG. He uses it as his main.  But but - we cant have that.   I told the guy that, he just sprayed round after round into my face. | 
      
      
      
          
          Kam Elto 
          KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 16:16:00 -
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          I use the advanced assault version with my SS and PRO at level 3. It's really good close up and also has decent range for a sidearm. I run it on my advanced AV suit and it's saved my butt several times against those pesky infantry. Can't wait to try it with my skills at level 5.  The officer version SMG is just downright nasty. Too bad I only have 12 of them. | 
      
      
      
          
          Roldrage 
          DIOS X. II Top Men.
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 16:21:00 -
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          So I decided to try it and it's actually really good, well worth my points. | 
      
      
      
          
          Orenji Jiji 
          Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 16:22:00 -
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          Yes. 512 is OK, but 209 is where it's at. Assault (M209 and Ishukone) above all else.
 
  Mind you I've got prof=5 and sharpshooter=4, as I'm running SMG as my main weapon, so I know what I'm talking about.
 
  This is the most fun a guy can have without going HMG/Forge in this game. Seriously awesome weapon in close and below medium range encounters. ADS on <15m and going for the head is bliss. | 
      
      
      
          
          Boot Booter 
          Elite Gamers Militia
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 16:25:00 -
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          Yes totally worth it and don't stop there. I have my SMG skills maxed out and it's amazing. Ridiculous accuracy and stopping power. Plus they are the coolest looking weapon in the game atm. | 
      
      
      
          
          Django Quik 
          R.I.f.t
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        Posted - 2013.07.24 17:22:00 -
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          Absolutely worth it - the M209 is awesome and a lot less pricey than the proto versions. Take it from someone who uses exclusively pistols and SMGs. | 
      
      
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