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Text Grant Planetary Response Organization 32	Posted - 2013.07.24 10:47:00 - [1] - Quote Snipers can sit on a nanohive andlike they never run out of ammo because they don't. Snipers shoot 10+ times at the same person to get a kill not caring that they miss 50% of the time. Max ammo should be lowered and the numbers should be raised on how many clusters it takes to resupply. Sniper spray and pray is more annoying than ar's
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 147	Posted - 2013.07.24 10:49:00 - [2] - Quote ROFL LOL OLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOL! Good one
Text Grant Planetary Response Organization 32	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:01:00 - [3] - Quote If you were a decent sniper this wouldn't bother you
Fire of Prometheus Solaris Space Marines 37	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:02:00 - [4] - Quote I snipe using an amarr logi suit, and believe me, I've run out of ammo and still got 10+ kills in the same life.....it's called head shots
Text Grant Planetary Response Organization 32	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:06:00 - [5] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: I snipe using an amarr logi suit, and believe me, I've run out of ammo and still got 10+ kills in the same life.....it's called head shots As a logi you can carry nanohives. It won't bother anyone that doesn't spam bullets
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 148	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:10:00 - [6] - Quote Text Grant wrote: If you were a decent sniper this wouldn't bother you Snipers seem to not run out cuz a good sniper will pick there targets carefully I don't recall a single SR having more then 5 rounds. To sit on a nanohive while sniping is just asking to get hunted and countered. Do to the way the sniper scope is and the ballistics, it would be hard to hit a ninja or any light/medium frame that won't stay still (hint, hint). Reducing the amount of ammo a nanohive gives would be counter productive to everyone else. Restricting that to just snipers would actually help them as once they load up the hive would break and there wouldn't be a big ol' "THERE'S A SNIPER IN THIS MOUNTAIN" sign on the main map. ^ that's why I thought you were just pulling meh leg.
Fire of Prometheus Solaris Space Marines 37	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:19:00 - [7] - Quote Text Grant wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: I snipe using an amarr logi suit, and believe me, I've run out of ammo and still got 10+ kills in the same life.....it's called head shots As a logi you can carry nanohives. It won't bother anyone that doesn't spam bullets I carry one and don't use it until I'm out of ammo as it usually gives away my location.....as per above, alpha decriptor has got a point, lighter drop suits......especially the ones that don't stop moving are harder to hit, but not impossible....I use a tactical sniper because of this and it does 185 hp damage so no nerfing!!!!
Karazantor Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 106	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:20:00 - [8] - Quote ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: Text Grant wrote: If you were a decent sniper this wouldn't bother you Snipers seem to not run out cuz a good sniper will pick there targets carefully I don't recall a single SR having more then 5 rounds. To sit on a nanohive while sniping is just asking to get hunted and countered. Do to the way the sniper scope is and the ballistics, it would be hard to hit a ninja or any light/medium frame that won't stay still (hint, hint). Reducing the amount of ammo a nanohive gives would be counter productive to everyone else. Restricting that to just snipers would actually help them as once they load up the hive would break and there wouldn't be a big ol' "THERE'S A SNIPER IN THIS MOUNTAIN" sign on the main map. ^ that's why I thought you were just pulling meh leg. Exactly. Nanohives are a major pain in the butt. Can't live with them, can't live without them. It would almost *help* if they destructed after filling up my ammo load. Smart infantry look for the shining nano hives on spawning or while running. For all the others, just whine.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 812	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:25:00 - [9] - Quote Text Grant wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: I snipe using an amarr logi suit, and believe me, I've run out of ammo and still got 10+ kills in the same life.....it's called head shots As a logi you can carry nanohives. It won't bother anyone that doesn't spam bullets Sorry cant get over this..... Lolfail yup I spam bullets in an FPS......
Karazantor Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 107	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:34:00 - [10] - Quote Text Grant wrote: As a logi you can carry nanohives. It won't bother anyone that doesn't spam bullets P.S. what you are referring to is a fool who is using a sniper rifle, *not* a sniper. However, on this basis I also propose that AR users not be able to benefit from nanohives. See where this goes? Anyway, a 'sniper' who is spamming is easy to spot and kill, not really sure why this is a problem for you. Its the one you don't see thats going to be the problem

Text Grant Planetary Response Organization 32	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:35:00 - [11] - Quote sniping shouldn't be like AR's. and anyone who disagrees needs to come down to the playing field instead of being in the redline. hearing sniper fire coming at you. 3 shot bursts everywhere you go.
Text Grant Planetary Response Organization 32	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:37:00 - [12] - Quote Karazantor wrote: Text Grant wrote: As a logi you can carry nanohives. It won't bother anyone that doesn't spam bullets P.S. what you are referring to is a fool who is using a sniper rifle, *not* a sniper. However, on this basis I also propose that AR users not be able to benefit from nanohives. See where this goes? Anyway, a 'sniper' who is spamming is easy to spot and kill, not really sure why this is a problem for you. Its the one you don't see thats going to be the problem i dont mind being killed by a good sniper. i mind being plinked by sucky ones and being forced to take cover just to run again. I want LESS but BETTER snipers. I am not asking for a damage nerf.
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 149	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:38:00 - [13] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Text Grant wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: I snipe using an amarr logi suit, and believe me, I've run out of ammo and still got 10+ kills in the same life.....it's called head shots As a logi you can carry nanohives. It won't bother anyone that doesn't spam bullets Sorry cant get over this..... Lolfail yup I spam bullets in an FPS...... Read your poste like 3 times b4 I understood how dumb that("...doesn't spam bullets") was. lol Now that I think about it though, the term for a "Spamming bullets" would actually be "Spray and prey" and really, how wise is that?
Fire of Prometheus Solaris Space Marines 38	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:38:00 - [14] - Quote Hahahaha any good sniper doesn't redline snipe^^^^ most find a nice point of elevation were they can get a nice good view of the battlefield towards the middle, not sitting in an mcc taking pot shots at the other team
Karazantor Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 107	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:43:00 - [15] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Hahahaha any good sniper doesn't redline snipe^^^^ most find a nice point of elevation were they can get a nice good view of the battlefield towards the middle, not sitting in an mcc taking pot shots at the other team There is one or two maps where some of the best positions are in the redline, but that is purely coincidental. It would be crazy not to use the best position simply because its in my redline, even though it does feel a bit 'cheap' at times. Anyhow, there is definitely ways to get people skulking in these locations, counter sniper and a few others that work very well. P.S. I get a kick out of cleaning these positions when i'm coming from the other direction, easy and always profitable, they simply think because they are in the redline they are safe. Familiarity breeds contempt (and complacency).
Fire of Prometheus Solaris Space Marines 38	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:48:00 - [16] - Quote Yes I agree on one or two maps there are some pretty good spots behind the redline (ps. That wasn't aimed at you, I was typing up that and the. You replied before I did :P) however, seeing as the snipers don't have variable zoom, I usually get to a nice spot close enough to the battle were I can get a nice look at the enemies face before a pop one imbetween his eyes :P
Captain Wontubulous Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 24	Posted - 2013.07.24 12:15:00 - [17] - Quote Other than a couple bugs that need to be fixed, snipers are fine. Leave them alone. The fact that crappy ones keep popping up is because they see the good ones doing it and think it's easy. They'll die off eventually when they realize they're only getting 4-5 kills per match while the good ones are doing 20+. Plus I need those spray and prey chumps as bait. I pick a spot where I can watch my part of the field away from them and they get picked off for drawing too much attention while everyone ignores me.
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 151	Posted - 2013.07.24 12:24:00 - [18] - Quote Captain Wontubulous wrote: Other than a couple bugs that need to be fixed, snipers are fine. Leave them alone. The fact that crappy ones keep popping up is because they see the good ones doing it and think it's easy. They'll die off eventually when they realize they're only getting 4-5 kills per match while the good ones are doing 20+. Plus I need those spray and prey chumps as bait. I pick a spot where I can watch my part of the field away from them and they get picked off for drawing too much attention while everyone ignores me. You sound like a scout. But yea I find myself being one of those 'distractions' from time-to-time as I get carried away. I gotta remember not to go full auto when the guy makes a 1mm step to the side and causes me to completely miss(not sarcasm or an exaggeration). `sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 2670	Posted - 2013.07.24 13:47:00 - [19] - Quote I'm honestly gonna laugh my ass off if they anounce bullet travel time for Sniper Rifles. We'll have the 80% of snipers that are actually ****** K/D whores go full ragevomit mode all over the forums, and the ones that are left will adapt and be even more dangerous.
Vavilia Lysenko Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 192	Posted - 2013.07.24 15:13:00 - [20] - Quote Text Grant wrote: Snipers can sit on a nanohive and never run out of ammo. Snipers shoot 10+ times at the same person to get a kill not caring that they miss over 50% of the time. Max ammo should be lowered and the numbers should be raised on how many clusters it takes to resupply. Sniper spray and pray is more annoying than ar's This is not a good idea. Missing shots? Do you hit with every shot you make when using your weapon of choice? Sniper rifles are not OHK weapons, you need several shots to kill a heavy or a Cal Logi. If they take cove and recharge shields you need to hit them again. If they don't wait until they are fully repped up then it is their fault if they die. If i see five Mercs running out of a "city" on a way to take an objective I will try to hit every one of them at least once (one or two will halt their advance). Max ammo on the sniper rifles is 25/30 rounds. This is too much? Dropping a NanoHive is like having a big sign near your position saying "Here I am, come get me", and if there are any players with a tiny amount of situational awareness on the other team, they will be on you like a fly on ****. If you can't see these evil people, throw the map up (take cover first obviously) the Hives are nicely marked for you to see, you don't even have to countersnipe just find an alternate route using cover. Comparing Sniper rifles to AR's is just ridiculous. There are terrible players using every type of weapon, not just Snipers (and I'm not saying that I'm not one of these terrible players).. You either need to countersnipe, I know, I know, it's not fair, or you need be a bit more aware of your situation. I had one Merc. who I killed, he spawned, started running over the same open ground repeatedly and dying at almost the same spot every time. I killed him again and again, I was ashamed. He was at fault not me. There are matches when I think to myself, wtf is going on, noone is even looking for me, it makes me sad. Even us cowards need some sort of recognition now and then.

Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 366	Posted - 2013.07.24 15:38:00 - [21] - Quote GTFO. Nice troll thread bro, snipers already supposedly need 3 shots to kill now, so forcing them to have less bullets is krazy.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 43	Posted - 2013.07.24 15:46:00 - [22] - Quote Interesting idea.. can we carry two compact nano hives instead of just one. :)
Bone Scratcher Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2013.07.24 17:45:00 - [23] - Quote Giving them less ammo from nanohives is not the amswer; Making their bullets be more traceable is. Their bullets are hard to trace back, but if they were a bit easier, it would balance out snipers versus ARs.
Cosgar ParagonX 3167	Posted - 2013.07.24 18:52:00 - [24] - Quote I'd give you a +1 for trolling, but somehow I think you're serious...
Cass Caul Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2013.07.24 19:16:00 - [25] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Hahahaha any good sniper doesn't redline snipe^^^^ most find a nice point of elevation were they can get a nice good view of the battlefield towards the middle, not sitting in an mcc taking pot shots at the other team :D I got some hate-mail from TuFar Gone, of Outer.Heaven the other day. called me a "effin' red-line sniper *** **" I was in the middle of the map when it happened. One of the most delicious things when you're accused of red-line sniping. Gallente Scout, charged sniper rifle. 2 kincats 1 cardiac regulator and profile dampener. I'm probably sniping next to your* MCC
da GAND 187. League of Infamy 157	Posted - 2013.07.24 20:11:00 - [26] - Quote It's easy to spot the snipers with nanohives giving away their position up on a hill, so this isn't a problem.
Asimov Deathbringer WarRavens League of Infamy 0	Posted - 2013.07.24 20:33:00 - [27] - Quote I don't snipe very often but the SR has already been nerfed back to the stone ages. No reason to nerf it again. Btw when u get killed by that annoying sniper just use your brain and remember where he was positioned and just cs his lazy butt. Simple as that. As far as the cry nerf every time ppl I have one thing to say. LEARN TO PLAY BETTER AND LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES! Also work work work on your situational awareness. You should be able to see the entire map in 3D in ur head by now. Try playing a few mock rounds in ur head b4 even turning your PS3 on. I for one have every nook and cranny of each map memorized. One thing they do need to do for the SR is to fix the damn scope. At a certain distance the enemy turns invisible and all you can see is their marker. Pain in da neck.
Psychotic Shooter Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 115	Posted - 2013.07.24 20:40:00 - [28] - Quote OK Snipers dont need a nerf they need more of a buff BTW i not a sniper but in anyother game a sniper with kill you in one shot
Captain Wontubulous Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 25	Posted - 2013.07.24 21:33:00 - [29] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: I'm honestly gonna laugh my ass off if they anounce bullet travel time for Sniper Rifles. We'll have the 80% of snipers that are actually ****** K/D whores go full ragevomit mode all over the forums, and the ones that are left will adapt and be even more dangerous. Dear god don't push for this on this game. With glitches like the long distance graphics glitches I just don't see these mechanics ever being reasonable in this game. In any other game that does this well I can account for it, but this mechanic on this game would definitely make me drop my sniper suit if not just leave. If snipers can't be viable on this game that just takes away one more battlefield mechanic and makes that many more AR whores. We need diversity.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 821	Posted - 2013.07.24 21:34:00 - [30] - Quote ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: True Adamance wrote: Text Grant wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: I snipe using an amarr logi suit, and believe me, I've run out of ammo and still got 10+ kills in the same life.....it's called head shots As a logi you can carry nanohives. It won't bother anyone that doesn't spam bullets Sorry cant get over this..... Lolfail yup I spam bullets in an FPS...... Read your poste like 3 times b4 I understood how dumb that("...doesn't spam bullets") was. lol Now that I think about it though, the term for a "Spamming bullets" would actually be "Spray and prey" and really, how wise is that? Nothing wrong with spray and pray, sure targeting is preferable but undert certain condition quantity of fire would be preferable to quality of fire.

Captain Wontubulous Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 25	Posted - 2013.07.24 21:36:00 - [31] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Hahahaha any good sniper doesn't redline snipe^^^^ most find a nice point of elevation were they can get a nice good view of the battlefield towards the middle, not sitting in an mcc taking pot shots at the other team :D I got some hate-mail from TuFar Gone, of Outer.Heaven the other day. called me a "effin' red-line sniper *** **" I was in the middle of the map when it happened. One of the most delicious things when you're accused of red-line sniping. Gallente Scout, charged sniper rifle. 2 kincats 1 cardiac regulator and profile dampener. I'm probably sniping next to your* MCC Hate mail makes me so happy as a sniper. I snipe from everywhere. Anywhere that will give me the best advantage for my team. If that spot is in the redline that's even better for me. Guess what? I'm a sniper. I'm cheap. I'm hard to find. My objective is to **** you off. You send me hate mail, I just succeeded.
Text Grant Planetary Response Organization 34	Posted - 2013.07.24 21:40:00 - [32] - Quote It's JUST less ammo. The whole point of sniping is quality shots.
Decasor The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 18	Posted - 2013.07.24 21:55:00 - [33] - Quote Text Grant wrote: It's JUST less ammo. The whole point of sniping is quality shots. NO. The whole point of sniping is to deny an enemy their objective or their life. If its not possible to guarantee killing an enemy attacking an objective then you are likely to be able to reduce their effectiveness greatly by making them distracted, so the closer assault infantry can take them out easier. Before you scream BS, this is *real life* sniper 101. Its as much psychological as it is direct physical damage. And it sounds to me like the snipers are winning with you. Of course, not everyone spamming knows this, or has it in mind, but what does it matter. Its working.
Text Grant Planetary Response Organization 34	Posted - 2013.07.24 22:26:00 - [34] - Quote Decasor wrote: Text Grant wrote: It's JUST less ammo. The whole point of sniping is quality shots. NO. The whole point of sniping is to deny an enemy their objective or their life. If its not possible to guarantee killing an enemy attacking an objective then you are likely to be able to reduce their effectiveness greatly by making them distracted, so the closer assault infantry can take them out easier. Before you scream BS, this is *real life* sniper 101. Its as much psychological as it is direct physical damage. And it sounds to me like the snipers are winning with you. Of course, not everyone spamming knows this, or has it in mind, but what does it matter. Its working. Just because this IS what is happening doesn't mean that it is working as intended. Try hitting targets with a squad on the ground helping kill them or pick targets that you can kill


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