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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:43:00 -
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like the title says why doesn't the scrambler rifle have sharpshooter proficiency |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
721
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:45:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:like the title says why doesn't the scrambler rifle have sharpshooter proficiency
I agree, if it is an AR variant, it should have all of the same skills as an AR. I would expect the same for the Combat and Gauss Rifles when we get those as well. |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
League of Infamy
387
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:55:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:like the title says why doesn't the scrambler rifle have sharpshooter proficiency
And god knows how much the Assault Scrambler needs that skill... |
Trey Hardin
REAPERS REPUBLIC
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:59:00 -
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this is already a extremely strong weapon why do you want to make it better.  |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:05:00 -
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well the AR is design for close to mid range combat yet i can get snipe half way almost half way across the map by an AR what im trying to say is decrease the range of the AR or buff th SCR range or just give us a skill to do it are selves |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
353
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:11:00 -
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Trey Hardin wrote:this is already a extremely strong weapon why do you want to make it better.
Debatable.
It is a Weapon that Fills a Hole many people wanted, and it does that job well.
Its not OP. Just fits a role that is "Popular" |
BuTtHuRtPEepZ
Raging Pack of Homosapiens
68
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:29:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Trey Hardin wrote:this is already a extremely strong weapon why do you want to make it better. Debatable. It is a Weapon that Fills a Hole many people wanted, and it does that job well. Its not OP. Just fits a role that is "Popular"
if by "fitting the role" you mean raping caldari shield-whores then yes, it does its job lol |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
353
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:34:00 -
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BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Trey Hardin wrote:this is already a extremely strong weapon why do you want to make it better. Debatable. It is a Weapon that Fills a Hole many people wanted, and it does that job well. Its not OP. Just fits a role that is "Popular" if by "fitting the role" you mean raping caldari shield-whores then yes, it does its job lol
Abso-Fricking-loutly!
I Love My Gun.
Just tried the AScR today.
Cried. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:39:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Trey Hardin wrote:this is already a extremely strong weapon why do you want to make it better. Debatable. It is a Weapon that Fills a Hole many people wanted, and it does that job well. Its not OP. Just fits a role that is "Popular" if by "fitting the role" you mean raping caldari shield-whores then yes, it does its job lol Abso-Fricking-loutly! I Love My Gun. Just tried the AScR today. Cried.
spread the word no one shall never look back at that filthy gallente weapon again |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
355
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:43:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Trey Hardin wrote:this is already a extremely strong weapon why do you want to make it better. Debatable. It is a Weapon that Fills a Hole many people wanted, and it does that job well. Its not OP. Just fits a role that is "Popular" if by "fitting the role" you mean raping caldari shield-whores then yes, it does its job lol Abso-Fricking-loutly! I Love My Gun. Just tried the AScR today. Cried. spread the word no one shall never look back at that filthy gallente weapon again
No.
I Cried cause it was so Bad.
Stock ScR is wuntaful Though. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
257
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:43:00 -
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im lost? |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
356
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:48:00 -
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I Cried cause the AScR Sucked.
The Stock ScR is Great though.
Sound it out.
Wun-Ta-ful
Now say it fast... |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1211
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:56:00 -
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I think it's a bit odd that AR's get a bonus skill that no other weapons have. +1 to balancing the skill tree. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
358
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:30:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:I think it's a bit odd that AR's get a bonus skill that no other weapons have. +1 to balancing the skill tree.
Don't say that, then some AR Rambo will bring up the SMG...
Like Anybody Uses the SMG...
Maybe when the Flaylock gets what it deserves, then they can bring it up... |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
League of Infamy
395
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:40:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:I think it's a bit odd that AR's get a bonus skill that no other weapons have. +1 to balancing the skill tree. Don't say that, then some AR Rambo will bring up the SMG... Like Anybody Uses the SMG... Maybe when the Flaylock gets what it deserves, then they can bring it up...
SMG is my main weapon : / |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
358
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:43:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:I think it's a bit odd that AR's get a bonus skill that no other weapons have. +1 to balancing the skill tree. Don't say that, then some AR Rambo will bring up the SMG... Like Anybody Uses the SMG... Maybe when the Flaylock gets what it deserves, then they can bring it up... SMG is my main weapon : /
Ah, another Nerf- Reader.
You can see into the Future, and can Predict the monstrous Nerf that the Flaylock is going to get.
Its already been planned anyway... |
DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
138
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:53:00 -
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only if we can get hmg sharpshooter |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
358
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:54:00 -
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DoomLead wrote:only if we can get hmg sharpshooter
If only yall get fixed HD.
I Miss you guys being Scary...
No Joke... |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1211
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:44:00 -
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DoomLead wrote:only if we can get hmg sharpshooter
only if every weapon gets a 'bonus skill'
Sharpshooter doesn't make sense for every weapon, but it's really weird that only a handful of weapons get them. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1358
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:53:00 -
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Sharpshooter on AScR? It would do the job of the AR better than the AR. So, no.
Sharpshooter on ScR? It would make the rifle OP. So, no.
Wait for the rail rifle and combat rifle to come out. When we have a better understanding of what CCP intends well go from there. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
359
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:56:00 -
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Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:Sharpshooter on AScR? It would do the job of the AR better than the AR. So, no.
Sharpshooter on ScR? It would make the rifle OP. So, no.
Wait for the rail rifle and combat rifle to come out. When we have a better understanding of what CCP intends well go from there.
How would it make AScR OP?
you get a 25% bonus at lvl 5
Give us a 10-15% Bonus at lvl 5
And, the ScR is already pinpoint accurate, so you can't really tighten the accuracy much more.
Let Us other Guns do something AR Rambos! |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1358
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Posted - 2013.07.24 04:03:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:Sharpshooter on AScR? It would do the job of the AR better than the AR. So, no.
Sharpshooter on ScR? It would make the rifle OP. So, no.
Wait for the rail rifle and combat rifle to come out. When we have a better understanding of what CCP intends well go from there. How would it make AScR OP? you get a 25% bonus at lvl 5 Give us a 10-15% Bonus at lvl 5 And, the ScR is already pinpoint accurate, so you can't really tighten the accuracy much more. Let Us other Guns do something AR Rambos!
The acsr is meant to be a weak are. It fills a cqc role for people invested in mid range combat without compromising those invested in close range. If you buff it to be on par why use an ar?
The screen is not pin point at upper ranges. Sharpshooter would make the coming rail rifle up as it would be ideal for both mid and long ranges.
Also....if it gets a buff expect an uber nerf hammer.
:/ |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1211
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Posted - 2013.07.24 05:58:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:
How would it make AScR OP?
In terms of raw damage output the Ascr matches the AR, and then if you factor in the damage bonus to shields (the most common form of tanking) the Ascr in theory outpaces the AR.
The thing that keeps the Ascr's actual DPS lower is all that nasty kick and dispersion that the AR's skills mitigate.
a 10-15% reduction in recoil/dispersion seems fair to me, but CCP needs to be delicate with this. We don't want another TacAR situation where the variant of a weapon renders an entire skilltree obsolete.
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Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
361
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Posted - 2013.07.24 06:12:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:
How would it make AScR OP?
In terms of raw damage output the Ascr matches the AR, and then if you factor in the damage bonus to shields (the most common form of tanking) the Ascr in theory outpaces the AR. The thing that keeps the Ascr's actual DPS lower is all that nasty kick and dispersion that the AR's skills mitigate. a 10-15% reduction in recoil/dispersion seems fair to me, but CCP needs to be delicate with this. We don't want another TacAR situation where the variant of a weapon renders an entire skilltree obsolete.
Yes, and I'm agreeing with you.
But there needs to be a skill that does something for the AScR, cause hip firing it is impossible, and the muzzle flash that it makes is both unpleasant to the eyes when ADSing, and it obscures the target.
Just a little tiny but less dispersion through a mil skill point skill.
I'll take it. |
SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
106
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Posted - 2013.07.24 07:09:00 -
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Or maybe take away the AR sharpshooter skill... |
Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
106
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Posted - 2013.07.24 08:56:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:like the title says why doesn't the scrambler rifle have sharpshooter proficiency
Anyone CCP?
I know that it has been stated that the lack of bonuses is intentional, can you explain the rationale behind this to inquiring minds. |
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