DUST Search - You've been quiet CCP

Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:

MassiveNine wrote:

Have you ever wondered that maybe, just MAYBE, if you were to communicate with your player base more that there wouldn't be such an outrage at every turn? To be quite honest I don't care if you're having internal problems with employees, just tell us that you've got some issues that you're working out. Where is the communication? That's the key part to any relationship and you are lacking hardcore. It's pretty pathetic you can hardly even offer us an explanation of what you're doing through your pathetic dev blogs, and then half the content were told about we don't get, stealth nerfs and buffs, when will it end? Only you can decide.

Oh trust me. The outrage would be there even if they did talk more. Best example is the respec stuff: CCP cleary said that there won't be another respec ever. Yet people come and qq all the time because they want a new respec. And why? Because they didn't listen and specced Caldari Logi even though they didn't even intend to play as a logistic.

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MassiveNine Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 192	Posted - 2013.07.23 19:49:00 - [1] - Quote Have you ever wondered that maybe, just MAYBE, if you were to communicate with your player base more that there wouldn't be such an outrage at every turn? To be quite honest I don't care if you're having internal problems with employees, just tell us that you've got some issues that you're working out. Where is the communication? That's the key part to any relationship and you are lacking hardcore. It's pretty pathetic you can hardly even offer us an explanation of what you're doing through your pathetic dev blogs, and then half the content were told about we don't get, stealth nerfs and buffs, when will it end? Only you can decide.
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4 Expert Intervention Caldari State 2165	Posted - 2013.07.23 19:52:00 - [2] - Quote They don't know what to do They don't want to communicate they don't know what to do They don't want to communicate as long as we think they know what to do
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1999	Posted - 2013.07.23 19:53:00 - [3] - Quote They're bad communicators, and they only grease the squeekiest wheel. Just get used to it. It's been this way for a year and a half, I doubt it's going to change now.
MassiveNine Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 192	Posted - 2013.07.23 19:54:00 - [4] - Quote 5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4 wrote: They don't know what to do They don't want to communicate they don't know what to do They don't want to communicate as long as we think they know what to do Pretty obvious they don't know what they are doing at this point. Might as well fess up, say sorry, take it dry, and then maybe we can actually move forward here.
MassiveNine Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 192	Posted - 2013.07.23 19:55:00 - [5] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: They're bad communicators, and they only grease the squeekiest wheel. Just get used to it. It's been this way for a year and a half, I doubt it's going to change now. I've been here since right before codex, it's been like this since then too. I'm just saying we can all see this ship is sinking and I just can't understand why we are the only ones trying to keep it afloat.
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers League of Infamy 1529	Posted - 2013.07.23 20:05:00 - [6] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: Have you ever wondered that maybe, just MAYBE, if you were to communicate with your player base more that there wouldn't be such an outrage at every turn? To be quite honest I don't care if you're having internal problems with employees, just tell us that you've got some issues that you're working out. Where is the communication? That's the key part to any relationship and you are lacking hardcore. It's pretty pathetic you can hardly even offer us an explanation of what you're doing through your pathetic dev blogs, and then half the content were told about we don't get, stealth nerfs and buffs, when will it end? Only you can decide. seriously changes and not in the patch notes is sloppy
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 985	Posted - 2013.07.23 20:08:00 - [7] - Quote They aren't communicating because 99% of their Dust staff speaks Chinese, not English.
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 295	Posted - 2013.07.23 20:11:00 - [8] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: Have you ever wondered that maybe, just MAYBE, if you were to communicate with your player base more that there wouldn't be such an outrage at every turn? To be quite honest I don't care if you're having internal problems with employees, just tell us that you've got some issues that you're working out. Where is the communication? That's the key part to any relationship and you are lacking hardcore. It's pretty pathetic you can hardly even offer us an explanation of what you're doing through your pathetic dev blogs, and then half the content were told about we don't get, stealth nerfs and buffs, when will it end? Only you can decide. they had a bar fight....i believe most of the team are in the hospital....hehehe.....to bad i plan on assassinating them....ALL OF THEM
da GAND 187. League of Infamy 149	Posted - 2013.07.23 20:12:00 - [9] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: 5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4 wrote: They don't know what to do They don't want to communicate they don't know what to do They don't want to communicate as long as we think they know what to do Pretty obvious they don't know what they are doing at this point. Might as well fess up, say sorry, take it dry, and then maybe we can actually move forward here. They don't know what they're doing and we don't know what they're doing
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers League of Infamy 1534	Posted - 2013.07.23 20:31:00 - [10] - Quote anyone one else notice that when the game came out of beta it was basically a brand new game no one had beta tested?

Asirius Medaius Planetary Response Organization 58	Posted - 2013.07.23 20:32:00 - [11] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: Have you ever wondered that maybe, just MAYBE, if you were to communicate with your player base more that there wouldn't be such an outrage at every turn? To be quite honest I don't care if you're having internal problems with employees, just tell us that you've got some issues that you're working out. Where is the communication? That's the key part to any relationship and you are lacking hardcore. It's pretty pathetic you can hardly even offer us an explanation of what you're doing through your pathetic dev blogs, and then half the content were told about we don't get, stealth nerfs and buffs, when will it end? Only you can decide. At the end of the day, the only power you have against CCP and their less-than-mediocre communication with their playerbase is your wallet. If you don't give them money, they will start to realize where they are making bad turns, and may actually help the community more. On the "flip side", providing them with more and more money only shows that the choices/decisions they make now (despite what they converse within the community) are acceptable, and that this behavior of developing a game (the way they are now) is acceptable.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 118	Posted - 2013.07.23 20:34:00 - [12] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: Have you ever wondered that maybe, just MAYBE, if you were to communicate with your player base more that there wouldn't be such an outrage at every turn? To be quite honest I don't care if you're having internal problems with employees, just tell us that you've got some issues that you're working out. Where is the communication? That's the key part to any relationship and you are lacking hardcore. It's pretty pathetic you can hardly even offer us an explanation of what you're doing through your pathetic dev blogs, and then half the content were told about we don't get, stealth nerfs and buffs, when will it end? Only you can decide. Oh trust me. The outrage would be there even if they did talk more. Best example is the respec stuff: CCP cleary said that there won't be another respec ever. Yet people come and qq all the time because they want a new respec. And why? Because they didn't listen and specced Caldari Logi even though they didn't even intended to play as a logistic.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6456	Posted - 2013.07.23 20:38:00 - [13] - Quote They just released a blog today...
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 703	Posted - 2013.07.23 20:41:00 - [14] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: anyone one else notice that when the game came out of beta it was basically a brand new game no one had beta tested? This is what started the downward tailspin. Releasing the game on 5/14 to be cute because the game is called Dust 514 might end up being the downfall. The comment about them not having time to get into the fitting optimization and ammo skills because of the 5/06 deadline was pretty telling.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 964	Posted - 2013.07.23 20:43:00 - [15] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: They're bad communicators, and they only grease the squeekiest wheel. Just get used to it. It's been this way for a year and a half, I doubt it's going to change now. start squeeking now then, maybe something will come out of... hm.. oh have flaylocks and contact nades shines get nerf hammer
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 703	Posted - 2013.07.23 20:44:00 - [16] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: MassiveNine wrote: Have you ever wondered that maybe, just MAYBE, if you were to communicate with your player base more that there wouldn't be such an outrage at every turn? To be quite honest I don't care if you're having internal problems with employees, just tell us that you've got some issues that you're working out. Where is the communication? That's the key part to any relationship and you are lacking hardcore. It's pretty pathetic you can hardly even offer us an explanation of what you're doing through your pathetic dev blogs, and then half the content were told about we don't get, stealth nerfs and buffs, when will it end? Only you can decide. Oh trust me. The outrage would be there even if they did talk more. Best example is the respec stuff: CCP cleary said that there won't be another respec ever. Yet people come and qq all the time because they want a new respec. And why? Because they didn't listen and specced Caldari Logi even though they didn't even intend to play as a logistic. So by your logic nobody should have spec'd into the Caldari Logi because it's stats were too good. Instead of providing respecs you think people should just avoid stuff that sounds cool just in case it might get nerfed and you could end up unhappy with your choice maybe? Makes perfect sense
Asirius Medaius Planetary Response Organization 59	Posted - 2013.07.23 20:44:00 - [17] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: They just released a blog today... ...of something that has been a problem since their release of Uprising. Free LAV's and the "murder taxi" situation has been around and exploited since beta (which is arguable, since everyone practically deems this build a beta as well). So, not only is their timing of this balancing far later than expected from the community (not implying we didn't know that in the first place), but the last legitimate "Dev Post" before that including any balances was 5 days before. So, to sum it up: It took almost a whole week for a blog about re-balancing to be conceived, and on top of that, for a problem that has been around for quite some time. This pacing for balancing is a "road map" of what to expect from CCP in terms of communication and development delay.
White Mortadela The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 43	Posted - 2013.07.23 20:57:00 - [18] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: They just released a blog today... Its a shame ccp dont pay you, you do an awesome job giving ppl a glimpse of hope , that ultimately doesn't come true... You are there most valuable asset because they DONT KNOW HOW TO COMUNICATE! Most of the problems that pop up are because lack,im sorry , NO ccommunication. If they communicated we could show them/ discuss about whats wrong with the game currently, point out the possible problem b4 a update etc.. If they did that maybe they wouldn't be behind on every problem, inbalance, exploit Its up to YOU to show them, after all you are the council of planetary MANAGEMENT!
Kamea Dark KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2	Posted - 2013.07.23 21:02:00 - [19] - Quote They talk to their player base far more than any game i have ever seen and i have played a lot of MMO type games. its not like they don't read what you guys post here.... ofc they make mistakes but everyone does.
MassiveNine Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 201	Posted - 2013.07.23 22:11:00 - [20] - Quote Kamea Dark wrote: They talk to their player base far more than any game i have ever seen and i have played a lot of MMO type games. its not like they don't read what you guys post here.... ofc they make mistakes but everyone does. Lol really? because every other game I've beta tested we were given a solid roadmap for the future of the game and on top of that they actually delivered what was on the roadmap! If they didn't, they were sure to let us know. I haven't spent money on this game since chromosome came out. My suggestion to you all is what's already been said, stop spending money on the game if you really want to send a message.

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6486	Posted - 2013.07.23 22:15:00 - [21] - Quote White Mortadela wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: They just released a blog today... Its a shame ccp dont pay you, you do an awesome job giving ppl a glimpse of hope , that ultimately doesn't come true... You are there most valuable asset because they DONT KNOW HOW TO COMUNICATE! Most of the problems that pop up are because lack,im sorry , NO ccommunication. If they communicated we could show them/ discuss about whats wrong with the game currently, point out the possible problem b4 a update etc.. If they did that maybe they wouldn't be behind on every problem, inbalance, exploit Its up to YOU to show them, after all you are the council of planetary MANAGEMENT! I am doing my part, but the CCP Logibro, CCP Mintchip and the CPM are trying their best to get the development team to open up and follow examples from Team True Grit that CCP Fox Four is part of. In itself however is developing the development team if you want to know what feels most like a beta in this game, its the team itself, they're learning a bunch of things and are reshaping to be much better at delivery and its a longer process to work out on. As for the whole imbalance of the flaylock and other weapons of uprising the CPM own's estimates have been mostly correct in the predictions. Feels sorta ironic how I got laughed at Fanfest for dual flay lock builds back then. However CCP was cautious and wanted to see how it entirely played out, see what people thought about how to make adjustments then started making the adjustments such as the performance increase of 1.2 made it very apparent the weapon was everything the cpm didn't like about it from fanfest. From there the overall turnaround time from starting to think about adjusting to final tweaks was considerably much shorter than any previous phase before. CCP has shown they're much less than about using the nerf sledge hammer and actually doing what I would like to call going sideways since some of the adjustments planned can't be called a nerf nor a buff. Also I would like to note, CPM Kain Spearow is looking for veteran vehicle experts in both operators and tacticians, he's trying to cook something up that may get results pretty soon.
White Mortadela The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 45	Posted - 2013.07.24 07:17:00 - [22] - Quote Ok and its Kain Spero btw
Piercing Serenity PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 357	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:21:00 - [23] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: Kamea Dark wrote: They talk to their player base far more than any game i have ever seen and i have played a lot of MMO type games. its not like they don't read what you guys post here.... ofc they make mistakes but everyone does. Lol really? because every other game I've beta tested we were given a solid roadmap for the future of the game and on top of that they actually delivered what was on the roadmap! If they didn't, they were sure to let us know. I haven't spent money on this game since chromosome came out. My suggestion to you all is what's already been said, stop spending money on the game if you really want to send a message. Massive! You're alive!


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