DUST Search - Amarr Logi Changes... will they be enough?

Muud Kipz wrote:

THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:

Shadowswipe wrote:

As the title says, will they be enough? They are small changes on the PG side, but we do have an extra low slot to put a PG module. Sidearms at all levels was needed from day one. Maybe they just wanted to make sure not everyone went there for assault reasons?

Thoughts if this will fix them without making them a target of a future nerf because they became too OP. I'm a loyal Amarr Logi, so either way it doesn't matter. I picked Amarr Logi on the first game wide refund and again with the optional respec. I just see all the QQ on the cal logi, just wondering if everyone is keeping quite on the Amarr buff as to not draw attention to the potential overpowered buffs.

It used to have 1 complex armor plate & 2 complex armor repair modules, now it can fit 1 armor plate w/ 3 armor repair modules. That means your armor is repping more HP per second than shields, without the delay.
Its either fine or OP now, doesn't really matter because no ones gonna spec into w/out a respec.

No one? That's a little bold. I specced into them in 1.1 to roll Logi AV. Now my desire for a niche build has been rewarded, and I won't have to run proto to use a sidearm.

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Shadowswipe WarRavens League of Infamy 176	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:25:00 - [1] - Quote As the title says, will they be enough? They are small changes on the PG side, but we do have an extra low slot to put a PG module. Sidearms at all levels was needed from day one. Maybe they just wanted to make sure not everyone went there for assault reasons? Thoughts if this will fix them without making them a target of a future nerf because they became too OP. I'm a loyal Amarr Logi, so either way it doesn't matter. I picked Amarr Logi on the first game wide refund and again with the optional respec. I just see all the QQ on the cal logi, just wondering if everyone is keeping quite on the Amarr buff as to not draw attention to the potential overpowered buffs.
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 66	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:29:00 - [2] - Quote Shadow as an Amarr Logi i want a respec. Why?? Because with our side arm on all suit and our new low slot i can see clouds of doom coming. There will be a rain of Nerf ALLtheLOGI and nerf the Amarr. An nerf the Cal.Logi again, because he can still be useful And i think this time ccp may walk the ****** Sidearm only path...
Protocake JR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 242	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:31:00 - [3] - Quote By my mental calculations, you should be able to get a little over 30 hp/s of delayless armor regeneration.
SERPENT-Adamapple Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 141	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:31:00 - [4] - Quote You actually gimp the Amarr-logi suit if you add a sidearm and low module. I have already tested it on my advanced suit and have to basic all my module's, except my dmg. mod, that's complex. Conclusion: no it is not an OP buff. Oh, and that's with my passive core skills at lvl. 4
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Pure Innocence. 87	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:34:00 - [5] - Quote Shadowswipe wrote: As the title says, will they be enough? They are small changes on the PG side, but we do have an extra low slot to put a PG module. Sidearms at all levels was needed from day one. Maybe they just wanted to make sure not everyone went there for assault reasons? Thoughts if this will fix them without making them a target of a future nerf because they became too OP. I'm a loyal Amarr Logi, so either way it doesn't matter. I picked Amarr Logi on the first game wide refund and again with the optional respec. I just see all the QQ on the cal logi, just wondering if everyone is keeping quite on the Amarr buff as to not draw attention to the potential overpowered buffs. It used to have 1 complex armor plate & 2 complex armor repair modules, now it can fit 1 armor plate w/ 3 armor repair modules. That means your armor is repping more HP per second than shields, without the delay. Its either fine or OP now, doesn't really matter because no ones gonna spec into w/out a respec.
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 66	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:35:00 - [6] - Quote You know, it dosent matter if is not an OP buff, when people will be killed by it they will start screaming for nerf
Muud Kipz Elevated Technologies 26	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:38:00 - [7] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Shadowswipe wrote: As the title says, will they be enough? They are small changes on the PG side, but we do have an extra low slot to put a PG module. Sidearms at all levels was needed from day one. Maybe they just wanted to make sure not everyone went there for assault reasons? Thoughts if this will fix them without making them a target of a future nerf because they became too OP. I'm a loyal Amarr Logi, so either way it doesn't matter. I picked Amarr Logi on the first game wide refund and again with the optional respec. I just see all the QQ on the cal logi, just wondering if everyone is keeping quite on the Amarr buff as to not draw attention to the potential overpowered buffs. It used to have 1 complex armor plate & 2 complex armor repair modules, now it can fit 1 armor plate w/ 3 armor repair modules. That means your armor is repping more HP per second than shields, without the delay. Its either fine or OP now, doesn't really matter because no ones gonna spec into w/out a respec. No one? That's a little bold. I specced into them in 1.1 to roll Logi AV. Now my desire for a niche build has been rewarded, and I won't have to run proto to use a sidearm.
Beren Hurin K-A-O-S theory 797	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:38:00 - [8] - Quote With the Amarr weapons, and the fact that its typically at least partically armor tanking, makes me really think this thing is situated to hit mostly at longer ranges. If you are fighting outside the AR's optimal range, and taking accurate shots with the scrambler rifle you can be very difficult to take down. Same with the laser rifle. I really think that these logis could make the best skirmish/support while your main team is up close assaulting.
Cosgar ParagonX 3085	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:39:00 - [9] - Quote I'd advise all logis to spec into a sidearm that they deem worthy of being used as a primary weapon. It's not a good day to be logistics...
Shadowswipe WarRavens League of Infamy 176	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:46:00 - [10] - Quote Cosgar wrote: I'd advise all logis to spec into a sidearm that they deem worthy of being used as a primary weapon. It's not a good day to be logistics... I already did this, cause my Amarr Logi runs Swarm or Sniper depending on what is needed on the team. SMG works great for me, assault variant has good range and can be compared to a standard assault rifle. I am more of a combat/anti sniper. I stay close to the team and snipe out of the city to the hills to get rid of dumb scout snipers that sit still thinking they are clear of danger.

Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 67	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:46:00 - [11] - Quote Cosgar wrote: I'd advise all logis to spec into a sidearm that they deem worthy of being used as a primary weapon. It's not a good day to be logistics... you have my same fear Cos?? NOW they want our mass driver too
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Pure Innocence. 87	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:51:00 - [12] - Quote Muud Kipz wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Shadowswipe wrote: As the title says, will they be enough? They are small changes on the PG side, but we do have an extra low slot to put a PG module. Sidearms at all levels was needed from day one. Maybe they just wanted to make sure not everyone went there for assault reasons? Thoughts if this will fix them without making them a target of a future nerf because they became too OP. I'm a loyal Amarr Logi, so either way it doesn't matter. I picked Amarr Logi on the first game wide refund and again with the optional respec. I just see all the QQ on the cal logi, just wondering if everyone is keeping quite on the Amarr buff as to not draw attention to the potential overpowered buffs. It used to have 1 complex armor plate & 2 complex armor repair modules, now it can fit 1 armor plate w/ 3 armor repair modules. That means your armor is repping more HP per second than shields, without the delay. Its either fine or OP now, doesn't really matter because no ones gonna spec into w/out a respec. No one? That's a little bold. I specced into them in 1.1 to roll Logi AV. Now my desire for a niche build has been rewarded, and I won't have to run proto to use a sidearm. Exactly, you were already specced into them, new players might go for it, but vets w/ proto suits already certainly ain't gonna grind 2.5 mil for it.
Shadowswipe WarRavens League of Infamy 176	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:51:00 - [13] - Quote Jastad wrote: Cosgar wrote: I'd advise all logis to spec into a sidearm that they deem worthy of being used as a primary weapon. It's not a good day to be logistics... you have my same fear Cos?? NOW they want our mass driver too Don't know why you guys are thinking this. This will never happen. Unless you are trolling, your fears are unfounded.
Aquinarius Zoltanus 0uter.Heaven EoN. 199	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:53:00 - [14] - Quote Cosgar wrote: I'd advise all logis to spec into a sidearm that they deem worthy of being used as a primary weapon. It's not a good day to be logistics... Have we ever had any indication whatsoever that CCP has even considered this? All I've heard is random players spitballing. While nerfing certain stats is one things, invalidating a huge portion of their player base's weapon choices is a terrible, terrible decision. CCP's just not gonna do that.
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 68	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:56:00 - [15] - Quote Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote: Have we ever had any indication whatsoever that CCP has even considered this? All I've heard is random players spitballing. While nerfing certain stats is one things, invalidating a huge portion of their player base's weapon choices is a terrible, terrible decision. CCP's just not gonna do that. Dear Fellow logi, i Hope so. But sadly, i'm thinking that the logi doomday will come.
Flax Ribbon The Southern Legion 11	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:57:00 - [16] - Quote I'm actually kinda sad i left the amarr logi suit for the gallente logi. As i hadnt hit proto suit levels when the respec hit, the entire line was becoming a liability for PC, I was limited to field medic (injector, repper) with the equipment slots. And that was really the only reason i left Amarr logi. As for regen i had no problems with hitting 26hp/sec AND fitting a shield regulator if i remember correctly. Gallente logi is great, and I'm loving the 4 equip slots and reduced cpu/pg costs, but as of writing i have started speccing back into amarr logi for the field medic role again... back when minmatar logi was all we had, i played MD support logi for my squads :), having my trusty SMG along for the ride (now with better range thanks to the optimal and falloff buff) is more than just icing!
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 871	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:58:00 - [17] - Quote "too OP" isn't a term. If something is OP it has too much power. So it can't have too too much power. Sorry, just a little annoyance of mine.
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 68	Posted - 2013.07.23 15:00:00 - [18] - Quote Shadowswipe wrote: Jastad wrote: Cosgar wrote: I'd advise all logis to spec into a sidearm that they deem worthy of being used as a primary weapon. It's not a good day to be logistics... you have my same fear Cos?? NOW they want our mass driver too Don't know why you guys are thinking this. This will never happen. Unless you are trolling, your fears are unfounded. Sorry but we ( Cosgar, Me, Cross Atu) have a forum crusade on the feedback section. you dont have an idea of how many post " Side all the logi" "Nerf all the logi" we had to counter. And the CPU cut for cal.logi and shield delay bonus for all (in a world of explosive,shield matter) make me think that CCP put down the scalpel used with tar and take back the hammer.
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 266	Posted - 2013.07.23 15:41:00 - [19] - Quote Jastad wrote: Shadow as an Amarr Logi i want a respec. Why?? Because with our side arm on all suit and our new low slot i can see clouds of doom coming. There will be a rain of Nerf ALLtheLOGI and nerf the Amarr. An nerf the Cal.Logi again, because he can still be useful And i think this time ccp may walk the ****** Sidearm only path... oh God please no ...i need a respec....if they do this to us
Vin Mora Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 64	Posted - 2013.07.23 15:47:00 - [20] - Quote Jastad wrote: Shadowswipe wrote: Jastad wrote: Cosgar wrote: I'd advise all logis to spec into a sidearm that they deem worthy of being used as a primary weapon. It's not a good day to be logistics... you have my same fear Cos?? NOW they want our mass driver too Don't know why you guys are thinking this. This will never happen. Unless you are trolling, your fears are unfounded. Sorry but we ( Cosgar, Me, Cross Atu) have a forum crusade on the feedback section. you dont have an idea of how many post " Side all the logi" "Nerf all the logi" we had to counter. And the CPU cut for cal.logi and shield delay bonus for all (in a world of explosive,shield matter) make me think that CCP put down the scalpel used with tar and take back the hammer. You guys can count on my support, Logi going Sidearm only will force out of the class, and most likely the game.



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