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Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
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Posted - 2013.07.22 10:42:00 -
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We all hate that damn point cap and wish it was gone.....the reason they did this was because people were farming points for orbitals by sitting in there spawn and fixing a lav that they would ram into the wall.......simple fix.....get rid of the cap...but make it that all points scored by rep tool do not count towards an orbital....no medics will finally get tons of exp and cash....and no one will cry about crazy amounts of orbitals....its a win win..... |
Cosgar
ParagonX
2942
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Posted - 2013.07.22 10:45:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Right now, you can only earn a certain amount of WP from triage bonuses with the repair tool over a certain amount of time. Basically, once you've earned your first bonus, an invisible timer starts. You can only earn a few more bonuses afterwards until you "cap" off. Once the timer ends, you can start earning bonuses again.
This is to prevent previous exploits where players would damage themselves, then have someone repair them for an endless cycle of WP gain without having to participate in combat. With this system in place, it restricts the ability for support players to earn wp for their team.
BUT
What if this timer automatically ended whenever you scored a kill, or an assist, or a guardian bonus?
So as long as you stay in combat and help support your teammates, you can keep earning wp, without ever having to worry about it being exploited!
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MAJOR EDIT:
What do you think about the timer ending after a revive bonus as well? This would only apply to when you get a bonus, so you couldn't reset the timer with the same guy who dies over and over again after you revive him.
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Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
237
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Posted - 2013.07.22 10:46:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:LinkI-Shayz-I wrote:Right now, you can only earn a certain amount of WP from triage bonuses with the repair tool over a certain amount of time. Basically, once you've earned your first bonus, an invisible timer starts. You can only earn a few more bonuses afterwards until you "cap" off. Once the timer ends, you can start earning bonuses again.
This is to prevent previous exploits where players would damage themselves, then have someone repair them for an endless cycle of WP gain without having to participate in combat. With this system in place, it restricts the ability for support players to earn wp for their team.
BUT
What if this timer automatically ended whenever you scored a kill, or an assist, or a guardian bonus?
So as long as you stay in combat and help support your teammates, you can keep earning wp, without ever having to worry about it being exploited!
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MAJOR EDIT:
What do you think about the timer ending after a revive bonus as well? This would only apply to when you get a bonus, so you couldn't reset the timer with the same guy who dies over and over again after you revive him.
this would force you into combat....not every one has gun game buddy...im one of those guys  |
Cosgar
ParagonX
2942
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Posted - 2013.07.22 10:50:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:this would force you into combat....not every one has gun game buddy...im one of those guys
The CD would reset off of kill assists and guardian bonuses as well. So as long as you damage someone or repair someone that kills someone, your cooldown would reset, WP would still count for an orbital and boosting would be significantly cut down. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
237
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Posted - 2013.07.22 10:52:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:this would force you into combat....not every one has gun game buddy...im one of those guys The CD would reset off of kill assists and guardian bonuses as well. So as long as you damage someone or repair someone that kills someone, your cooldown would reset, WP would still count for an orbital and boosting would be significantly cut down.
damn....i guess....if this is what every one is voting for i cant complain..... |
Den-tredje Baron
ParagonX
172
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Posted - 2013.07.22 10:54:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Cosgar wrote:LinkI-Shayz-I wrote:Right now, you can only earn a certain amount of WP from triage bonuses with the repair tool over a certain amount of time. Basically, once you've earned your first bonus, an invisible timer starts. You can only earn a few more bonuses afterwards until you "cap" off. Once the timer ends, you can start earning bonuses again.
This is to prevent previous exploits where players would damage themselves, then have someone repair them for an endless cycle of WP gain without having to participate in combat. With this system in place, it restricts the ability for support players to earn wp for their team.
BUT
What if this timer automatically ended whenever you scored a kill, or an assist, or a guardian bonus?
So as long as you stay in combat and help support your teammates, you can keep earning wp, without ever having to worry about it being exploited!
____________________
MAJOR EDIT:
What do you think about the timer ending after a revive bonus as well? This would only apply to when you get a bonus, so you couldn't reset the timer with the same guy who dies over and over again after you revive him. this would force you into combat....not every one has gun game buddy...im one of those guys
I'm sorry did you just state that you would like to stay OUT of combat yet still earn rep points ??
But instead of being a major game breaking mechanic you have made it into a really wierd mechanic.
Sorry but a COMBAT medic is also meant to be in COMBAT, you can't just sit back in the spawn and hope people will run back t you to get repped ......
Also wtf dude what about the guys who actually do a relly nice medic job ?? Your idea would destroy them and a major part of their gameplay. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
237
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Posted - 2013.07.22 11:00:00 -
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Den-tredje Baron wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:Cosgar wrote:LinkI-Shayz-I wrote:Right now, you can only earn a certain amount of WP from triage bonuses with the repair tool over a certain amount of time. Basically, once you've earned your first bonus, an invisible timer starts. You can only earn a few more bonuses afterwards until you "cap" off. Once the timer ends, you can start earning bonuses again.
This is to prevent previous exploits where players would damage themselves, then have someone repair them for an endless cycle of WP gain without having to participate in combat. With this system in place, it restricts the ability for support players to earn wp for their team.
BUT
What if this timer automatically ended whenever you scored a kill, or an assist, or a guardian bonus?
So as long as you stay in combat and help support your teammates, you can keep earning wp, without ever having to worry about it being exploited!
____________________
MAJOR EDIT:
What do you think about the timer ending after a revive bonus as well? This would only apply to when you get a bonus, so you couldn't reset the timer with the same guy who dies over and over again after you revive him. this would force you into combat....not every one has gun game buddy...im one of those guys I'm sorry did you just state that you would like to stay OUT of combat yet still earn rep points ?? But instead of being a major game breaking mechanic you have made it into a really wierd mechanic. Sorry but a COMBAT medic is also meant to be in COMBAT, you can't just sit back in the spawn and hope people will run back t you to get repped ...... Also wtf dude what about the guys who actually do a relly nice medic job ?? Your idea would destroy them and a major part of their gameplay.
dude really? what i mean is this.....if i dont want to fire my weapon i shouldnt have to...i bring attention to myself that i really dont need.....i dont want to be a combat medic....i want to be a dedicated healer....whats so wrong about that? you guys want to be kill fiends...i just want to heal people... |
I-Shayz-I
Not Guilty
EoN.
446
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Posted - 2013.07.22 11:34:00 -
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My idea also states that revives would possibly reset the timer as well.
Until we can get a fix for the repair tool that will adjust it to work more effectively than shooting someone, my idea is the best temp solution we have so far. It's also the easiest to implement. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
238
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:19:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:My idea also states that revives would possibly reset the timer as well.
Until we can get a fix for the repair tool that will adjust it to work more effectively than shooting someone, my idea is the best temp solution we have so far. It's also the easiest to implement.
you know what..your right.....*sigh* hopefully one day my dream of being 100% healer will come true. |
RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
230
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Posted - 2013.07.22 16:20:00 -
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This issue is long overdue from being resolved. No one likes WP farmers and boosting, so that made the interim fix tolerable. But we are months and months away from its implementation and no permanent solution has been introduced as of yet. In the meantime, Logistics players who actually focus their gameplay around triage activity are getting the short end of the stick in terms of WP...which directly influence the amount of SP earned and therefore interferes with personal skill progression.
So essentially we are being penalized for doing our job because a few bad apples ruined it for the rest of us. Unacceptable at this stage of development. The issue with Rep Tool WP should have been lumped into the redesign of current Logistics changes coming down the pipe in a few weeks.
Despite the lack of reward I still repair teammates and randoms alike...points be damned. But the "issue" players have had with Logistics dropsuit stats has been around a lot less time then the repair WP issue and should have slated for a fix before or at least concurrent with those changes.
I hope the development team can take a minute to provide insight on the progress of this issue. |
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