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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.22 08:52:00 -
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What if the current shield extenders and armor plates (for example) are lesser versions that both armor tankers and shield tankers can use, while there are all around better versions of those that are specific to races?
Gallente + Amarr = Special Plates
Caldari + Minmatar = Special Extenders
Examples: Gallente are regenerators from EVE, so give them reactive plates that are exactly like a plate + repairer.
Amarr are buffer tankers from EVE, so give them normal plates with 1.5x the eHP.
Minmatar I don't remember what they are in EVE, by they are speedy regenerators in Dust with lower eHP, so give them extenders combined with energizers.
Caldari I would say give shield extenders with rechargers.
Plates and extenders are just an example, plenty of other modules to consider. |
ChromeBreaker
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Posted - 2013.07.22 09:06:00 -
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So Faction Modules... wouldnt be suprised if that isnt tied into FW somehow... |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.22 09:36:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:So Faction modules, the presidant exists in eve... wouldnGÇÖt be surprised if that isnt tied into FW somehow...
dont expect a huge advantage over existing complex mods, maybe plates with less penelties, mods that are easier to fit... that type of thing No. This is to discourage dual tanking, you CAN use a normal shield extender, but it won't be as effective as using a Caldari or Minmatar shield extender. |
ALPHA DECRIPTER
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Posted - 2013.07.22 09:51:00 -
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They say they don't want to lock players out of any content based on there choices so I'm not sure if this would ever get implemented. Not a bad idea though TBH. +1
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.22 09:52:00 -
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ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:They say they don't want to lock players out of any content based on there choices so I'm not sure if this would ever get implemented. Not a bad idea though TBH. +1
That statement... I don't think it means what you think it means. |
ChromeBreaker
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Posted - 2013.07.22 10:10:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:So Faction modules, the presidant exists in eve... wouldnGÇÖt be surprised if that isnt tied into FW somehow...
dont expect a huge advantage over existing complex mods, maybe plates with less penelties, mods that are easier to fit... that type of thing No. This is to discourage dual tanking, you CAN use a normal shield extender, but it won't be as effective as using a Caldari or Minmatar shield extender, and you can't fit those on suits that aren't Caldari or Minmatar.
Minmitar are dual tankers. Im just using the examples from Eve (yes yes i know dust =/= eve)
i doubt they'll restrict modules by a suits race... more likely to restrict who can get the modules and then let them fit to whatever... or sell it |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.22 10:12:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Cat Merc wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:So Faction modules, the presidant exists in eve... wouldnGÇÖt be surprised if that isnt tied into FW somehow...
dont expect a huge advantage over existing complex mods, maybe plates with less penelties, mods that are easier to fit... that type of thing No. This is to discourage dual tanking, you CAN use a normal shield extender, but it won't be as effective as using a Caldari or Minmatar shield extender, and you can't fit those on suits that aren't Caldari or Minmatar. Minmitar are dual tankers. Im just using the examples from Eve (yes yes i know dust =/= eve) i doubt they'll restrict modules by a suits race... more likely to restrict who can get the modules and then let them fit to whatever... or sell it They already do it in EVE, covert ops cloaks can only be fitted on specific ships for example.
Also, Minmatar are NOT dual tankers, 5 high slots and 2 low slots says it all. |
ChromeBreaker
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Posted - 2013.07.22 10:19:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Cat Merc wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:So Faction modules, the presidant exists in eve... wouldnGÇÖt be surprised if that isnt tied into FW somehow...
dont expect a huge advantage over existing complex mods, maybe plates with less penelties, mods that are easier to fit... that type of thing No. This is to discourage dual tanking, you CAN use a normal shield extender, but it won't be as effective as using a Caldari or Minmatar shield extender, and you can't fit those on suits that aren't Caldari or Minmatar. Minmitar are dual tankers. Im just using the examples from Eve (yes yes i know dust =/= eve) i doubt they'll restrict modules by a suits race... more likely to restrict who can get the modules and then let them fit to whatever... or sell it They already do it in EVE, covert ops cloaks can only be fitted on specific ships for example. Also, Minmatar are NOT dual tankers, 5 high slots and 2 low slots says it all.
Cov op is a bad example, its a very specialised mod, and increadibly powerful. By that example id want to cloak my heavy
Faction mods in eve are "slightly" better than the higher end basic mods... and a lot more expensive... officer mods even more so.
Minmitar ARE dual tankers, some suits might lend themselfs better to armour or shield, but as a race the have a preferance to speed over anything else |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.22 10:22:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Cat Merc wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Cat Merc wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:So Faction modules, the presidant exists in eve... wouldnGÇÖt be surprised if that isnt tied into FW somehow...
dont expect a huge advantage over existing complex mods, maybe plates with less penelties, mods that are easier to fit... that type of thing No. This is to discourage dual tanking, you CAN use a normal shield extender, but it won't be as effective as using a Caldari or Minmatar shield extender, and you can't fit those on suits that aren't Caldari or Minmatar. Minmitar are dual tankers. Im just using the examples from Eve (yes yes i know dust =/= eve) i doubt they'll restrict modules by a suits race... more likely to restrict who can get the modules and then let them fit to whatever... or sell it They already do it in EVE, covert ops cloaks can only be fitted on specific ships for example. Also, Minmatar are NOT dual tankers, 5 high slots and 2 low slots says it all. Cov op is a bad example, its a very specialised mod, and increadibly powerful. By that example id want to cloak my heavy Faction mods in eve are "slightly" better than the higher end basic mods... and a lot more expensive... officer mods even more so. Minmitar ARE dual tankers, some suits might lend themselfs better to armour or shield, but as a race the have a preferance to speed over anything else I'm not talking about faction modules, it's a completely different idea. Am I restricted from using faction shield mods as a Gallente?
About covert ops, fine, how about weapon systems? Gallente ships don't have missiles for the most part, except for one or two exceptions. |
shaman oga
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Posted - 2013.07.22 10:30:00 -
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Question: are those modules for your race or for your suit? I mean, i have a minmatar, but i made the error to spec into gallente logi because the bonus was great to play as a logi, i have the minmatar modules but i have to fit them on a gallente suit, how does it work? |
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Hecarim Van Hohen
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Posted - 2013.07.22 10:31:00 -
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I like my dual tank ;_; |
ChromeBreaker
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Posted - 2013.07.22 10:33:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Cat Merc wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote: Minmitar are dual tankers. Im just using the examples from Eve (yes yes i know dust =/= eve)
i doubt they'll restrict modules by a suits race... more likely to restrict who can get the modules and then let them fit to whatever... or sell it
They already do it in EVE, covert ops cloaks can only be fitted on specific ships for example. Also, Minmatar are NOT dual tankers, 5 high slots and 2 low slots says it all. Cov op is a bad example, its a very specialised mod, and increadibly powerful. By that example id want to cloak my heavy Faction mods in eve are "slightly" better than the higher end basic mods... and a lot more expensive... officer mods even more so. Minmitar ARE dual tankers, some suits might lend themselfs better to armour or shield, but as a race the have a preferance to speed over anything else I'm not talking about faction modules, it's a completely different idea. Am I restricted from using faction shield mods as a Gallente? About covert ops, fine, how about weapon systems? Gallente ships don't have missiles for the most part, except for one or two exceptions.
Im not saying you couldnt... racial unique items are a common idea in other games... i just think it more likely CCP will continue with the "core principles" kind of thing where race doesnt effect what you can use... dont know \o/
Only weapon system that is unique like that are doomsdays... and theyre more for a particular ship... I could fit lasers on a minmitar ship if i wanted (prob not a good idea but i could) all races use missiles in some recpect
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.22 10:40:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Question: are those modules for your race or for your suit? I mean, i have a minmatar, but i made the error to spec into gallente logi because the bonus was great to play as a logi, i have the minmatar modules but i have to fit them on a gallente suit, how does it work? Suit. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.22 10:43:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Cat Merc wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Cat Merc wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote: Minmitar are dual tankers. Im just using the examples from Eve (yes yes i know dust =/= eve)
i doubt they'll restrict modules by a suits race... more likely to restrict who can get the modules and then let them fit to whatever... or sell it
They already do it in EVE, covert ops cloaks can only be fitted on specific ships for example. Also, Minmatar are NOT dual tankers, 5 high slots and 2 low slots says it all. Cov op is a bad example, its a very specialised mod, and increadibly powerful. By that example id want to cloak my heavy Faction mods in eve are "slightly" better than the higher end basic mods... and a lot more expensive... officer mods even more so. Minmitar ARE dual tankers, some suits might lend themselfs better to armour or shield, but as a race the have a preferance to speed over anything else I'm not talking about faction modules, it's a completely different idea. Am I restricted from using faction shield mods as a Gallente? About covert ops, fine, how about weapon systems? Gallente ships don't have missiles for the most part, except for one or two exceptions. Im not saying you couldnt... racial unique items are a common idea in other games... i just think it more likely CCP will continue with the "core principles" kind of thing where race doesnt effect what you can use... dont know \o/ Only weapon system that is unique like that are doomsdays... and theyre more for a particular ship... I could fit lasers on a minmitar ship if i wanted (prob not a good idea but i could) all races use missiles in some recpect Ah, you think I'm talking about the race itself? No, I'm talking about the suit. You can be a Gallente with a Caldari suit and you have access to the shield extenders :P |
ChromeBreaker
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Posted - 2013.07.22 11:46:00 -
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no no i know what you mean... caldari suit only items etc...
Dont know if it works the same way but heavy suits using heavy weapons sounds similar... but race instead or class... code might already be there? |
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