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Panther Alpha wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

Every FOTM starts out like this.
Slowly people realise it's power and then it becomes more and more common.
I didn't see a single of the so called "top players" use a MD, and suddenly I'm seeing over 60% of them using a MD.

The splash radius buff was too big, they fixed the problem where even if it was within range the hit didn't register and that's all it needed.

And where might I ask, you get your information from? 60%, how do you arrive at that number?

I admit this is from my limited experience playing with around 30 or so of these 'top players', but I'm telling you that not a SINGLE one has switched to MD, nor are they even considering it. So where is this 60% coming from? It's just chance that I'm not seeing the massive waves of people making the switch?

Anyone that has tried out the MD for an extended period of time should realize that it is NOT the end-all-be-all weapon.

Mark my words, the Mass Driver is not and will not be the next FOTM.

We'll see.
Are you in the US servers by any chance?
It might be a Euro thing.

It is an EU server thing... i already tested that.

EU = 7 out of 10 battles are Pubstomp
USA= 4 out of 10

The thing is that the Automatic Selection puts you mostly in the EU servers, and occasionally in the other regions.

What the hell is wrong with the EU servers CCP ? I just don't believe that EU players like to Pubstomp all the time....something isn't right.

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Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 3423	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:03:00 - [1] - Quote Why does it seem like all the "top" players carry flaylocks + Caldari logi + MD + Core locus grenade these days. When I encounter a match with them I pull out my sniper rifle because trying to even get close with my Gallente suit means I'm dead before I can blink. This game became a game of "Who can exploit the broken parts the most?". Sigh, Beers and Telc on IRC were right, this game will only be half decent in 6 months at least.
Mad Syringe Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy 7	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:07:00 - [2] - Quote Armor is broken... You will have to live with it till they fix it...
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 3424	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:09:00 - [3] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: Armor is broken... You will have to live with it till they fix it... A flaylock is still amazingly deadly even against shield tankers.
Aquinarius Zoltanus 0uter.Heaven EoN. 190	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:14:00 - [4] - Quote I really don't get why you (and many other people) lump the Mass Driver in with this. While I wouldn't necessarily consider myself a 'top player', I do play with several players who you would consider that. I've seen many of them spec into Flaylocks as the new FOTM, but I have not seen a single one of them put down their AR and even try the MD. It is being used effectively now, and I'm happy about that. But it is far from OP, or being the new FOTM. Please stop trying to label it as such.
RedRebelCork Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 152	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:17:00 - [5] - Quote Well, Caldari Logi doesn't get a sidearm so that's impossible. But yes, it does feel like Core Flaylocks are rampant 'win buttons'. CCP did a bad job of QA in this regard.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 664	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:18:00 - [6] - Quote I just got pubstomped by shotguns, MD's, and Flaylocks... So i come to troll the forums for a bit. Once the pubstomping starts it last hours before it gets back to normal again. Seriously CCP... how can you don't see that this crap is killing the game ?
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 3426	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:19:00 - [7] - Quote Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote: I really don't get why you (and many other people) lump the Mass Driver in with this. While I wouldn't necessarily consider myself a 'top player', I do play with several players who you would consider that. I've seen many of them spec into Flaylocks as the new FOTM, but I have not seen a single one of them put down their AR and even try the MD. It is being used effectively now, and I'm happy about that. But it is far from OP, or being the new FOTM. Please stop trying to label it as such. Every FOTM starts out like this. Slowly people realise it's power and then it becomes more and more common. I didn't see a single of the so called "top players" use a MD, and suddenly I'm seeing over 60% of them using a MD. The splash radius buff was too big, they fixed the problem where even if it was within range the hit didn't register and that's all it needed.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5347	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:22:00 - [8] - Quote Flay 2 Win. Im on mobile so I cant link the thread, but read that thread.
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 3426	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:23:00 - [9] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: I just got pubstomped by shotguns, MD's, and Flaylocks... So i come to troll the forums for a bit. Once the pubstomping starts it last hours before it gets back to normal again. Seriously CCP... how can you don't see that this crap is killing the game ? It started yesterday....
Aquinarius Zoltanus 0uter.Heaven EoN. 191	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:26:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Every FOTM starts out like this. Slowly people realise it's power and then it becomes more and more common. I didn't see a single of the so called "top players" use a MD, and suddenly I'm seeing over 60% of them using a MD. The splash radius buff was too big, they fixed the problem where even if it was within range the hit didn't register and that's all it needed. And where might I ask, you get your information from? 60%, how do you arrive at that number? I admit this is from my limited experience playing with around 30 or so of these 'top players', but I'm telling you that not a SINGLE one has switched to MD, nor are they even considering it. So where is this 60% coming from? It's just chance that I'm not seeing the massive waves of people making the switch? Anyone that has tried out the MD for an extended period of time should realize that it is NOT the end-all-be-all weapon. Mark my words, the Mass Driver is not and will not be the next FOTM.

Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 3426	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:27:00 - [11] - Quote Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Every FOTM starts out like this. Slowly people realise it's power and then it becomes more and more common. I didn't see a single of the so called "top players" use a MD, and suddenly I'm seeing over 60% of them using a MD. The splash radius buff was too big, they fixed the problem where even if it was within range the hit didn't register and that's all it needed. And where might I ask, you get your information from? 60%, how do you arrive at that number? I admit this is from my limited experience playing with around 30 or so of these 'top players', but I'm telling you that not a SINGLE one has switched to MD, nor are they even considering it. So where is this 60% coming from? It's just chance that I'm not seeing the massive waves of people making the switch? Anyone that has tried out the MD for an extended period of time should realize that it is NOT the end-all-be-all weapon. Mark my words, the Mass Driver is not and will not be the next FOTM. We'll see. Are you in the US servers by any chance? It might be a Euro thing.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 666	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:35:00 - [12] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Every FOTM starts out like this. Slowly people realise it's power and then it becomes more and more common. I didn't see a single of the so called "top players" use a MD, and suddenly I'm seeing over 60% of them using a MD. The splash radius buff was too big, they fixed the problem where even if it was within range the hit didn't register and that's all it needed. And where might I ask, you get your information from? 60%, how do you arrive at that number? I admit this is from my limited experience playing with around 30 or so of these 'top players', but I'm telling you that not a SINGLE one has switched to MD, nor are they even considering it. So where is this 60% coming from? It's just chance that I'm not seeing the massive waves of people making the switch? Anyone that has tried out the MD for an extended period of time should realize that it is NOT the end-all-be-all weapon. Mark my words, the Mass Driver is not and will not be the next FOTM. We'll see. Are you in the US servers by any chance? It might be a Euro thing. It is an EU server thing... i already tested that. EU = 7 out of 10 battles are Pubstomp USA= 4 out of 10 The thing is that the Automatic Selection puts you mostly in the EU servers, and occasionally in the other regions. What the hell is wrong with the EU servers CCP ? I just don't believe that EU players like to Pubstomp all the time....something isn't right.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 849	Posted - 2013.07.21 18:27:00 - [13] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Why does it seem like all the "top" players carry flaylocks + Caldari logi + MD + Core locus grenade these days. When I encounter a match with them I pull out my sniper rifle because trying to even get close with my Gallente suit means I'm dead before I can blink. This game became a game of "Who can exploit the broken parts the most?". Sigh, Beers and Telc on IRC were right, this game will only be half decent in 6 months at least. They said that 6months ago when hit detection, terrible spawning, and imbalance was the meal of the day.
Noc Tempre Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2218	Posted - 2013.07.21 18:28:00 - [14] - Quote The game is very shallow, allowing FOOS to be discovered quickly and remain static until massive changes.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 850	Posted - 2013.07.21 18:31:00 - [15] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Every FOTM starts out like this. Slowly people realise it's power and then it becomes more and more common. I didn't see a single of the so called "top players" use a MD, and suddenly I'm seeing over 60% of them using a MD. The splash radius buff was too big, they fixed the problem where even if it was within range the hit didn't register and that's all it needed. And where might I ask, you get your information from? 60%, how do you arrive at that number? I admit this is from my limited experience playing with around 30 or so of these 'top players', but I'm telling you that not a SINGLE one has switched to MD, nor are they even considering it. So where is this 60% coming from? It's just chance that I'm not seeing the massive waves of people making the switch? Anyone that has tried out the MD for an extended period of time should realize that it is NOT the end-all-be-all weapon. Mark my words, the Mass Driver is not and will not be the next FOTM. We'll see. Are you in the US servers by any chance? It might be a Euro thing. It is an EU server thing... i already tested that. EU = 7 out of 10 battles are Pubstomp USA= 4 out of 10 The thing is that the Automatic Selection puts you mostly in the EU servers, and occasionally in the other regions. What the hell is wrong with the EU servers CCP ? I just don't believe that EU players like to Pubstomp all the time....something isn't right. Don't forget the time you play at. If you're playing late night GMT, you'll encounter hardcore EU players but the more casual just-finished-work US players.
Cosgar ParagonX 2917	Posted - 2013.07.21 18:36:00 - [16] - Quote FYI, the MD is far to situational to be a FotM. Especially since the Flaylock has almost twice the DPS and way more ammo.
BLKDG ROYAL SQUAD Shadow of the Apocalypse 14	Posted - 2013.07.21 18:38:00 - [17] - Quote I enoy md Not to pubstomp But it has the ability to push the r3d dots into the path of my squad ies bullets With the support of my group, im a logi hound getting within top 5 with a basic suit. I mostly get kill assists in the fit And most wp is made while Reppen Needlen And runnin those beans and bullets Md bad nah Core flay. Now whats up with them ? Cheer$
steadyhand amarr Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 965	Posted - 2013.07.21 18:41:00 - [18] - Quote I sware I play a diffrent game to you guys. Iv encounterd it but not as dramaticy as you guys make out
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 3429	Posted - 2013.07.21 18:43:00 - [19] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: I sware I play a diffrent game to you guys. Iv encounterd it but not as dramaticy as you guys make out 8 matches in a row with a squad of 6 of those people. Ain't pretty.


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