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Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 897	Posted - 2013.07.20 23:25:00 - [1] - Quote Do you [the player] feel all Logistics LAVs are overpowered or is it just the Caldari LAV you have the most issues with?
Cyrius Li-Moody The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 305	Posted - 2013.07.20 23:29:00 - [2] - Quote Both are equally hard to kill in my opinion. Their sustain would be fine if they were used for logistics purposes and not for just running people over.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact RISE of LEGION 10	Posted - 2013.07.20 23:30:00 - [3] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Do you [the player] feel all Logistics LAVs are overpowered or is it just the Caldari LAV you have the most issues with? It might just seem that way because both AV grenades and Swarm launchers are Anti-Armor vehicle focused. so shield tanked vehicles are harder to kill. unless this has changed in an update. "AV grenades deal, to vehicles, 5x the base damage to shields and 10x the base damage to armor." swarms deal -20% of base to shields and +20% to armor. Along with nerfs please make a anti-shield vehicle grenade.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 897	Posted - 2013.07.20 23:33:00 - [4] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Both are equally hard to kill in my opinion. Their sustain would be fine if they were used for logistics purposes and not for just running people over. Yes this is coming from the Standpoint of me using the Logistics LAV as a frontline support vehicle and not a murder taxi. I have found that the Gallente LAV, while resilient, is in no way as immune to most AV weapons like the Caldari LAV. This issue could be solved if we had more anti shield weapons in the game like tho other poster said.
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 776	Posted - 2013.07.20 23:34:00 - [5] - Quote they're a scissor that has a major rock ppl are slowly catching on to
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 846	Posted - 2013.07.20 23:43:00 - [6] - Quote Both are OP, but the Caldari is worse. I need to shoot out the driver, ram it with a tank, or try and hold it down if it crashes, just to be in with a *chance of destroying one. What really disappoints me about the free LAV removal, is that the various suggestions for a nerf to roadkilling would have solved both problems quite succinctly.
Pikachu Power XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S 82	Posted - 2013.07.20 23:46:00 - [7] - Quote it doesnt matter bc all lavs will get nerfed, anyway
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 124	Posted - 2013.07.20 23:54:00 - [8] - Quote i started to lol at the first sign llav's were not being used for their intended purposes. my reason being the inevitable nerf hammer yet to hit them. i have yet to see one being used for any sort of logistical purpose. no one is safe in this game someone might actually be able to kill one 1 day
Cosgar ParagonX 2892	Posted - 2013.07.21 00:28:00 - [9] - Quote I don't mind them being hard to kill, but they should be significantly slower than a standard LAV.
Provolonee Undefined Risk DARKSTAR ARMY 98	Posted - 2013.07.21 01:52:00 - [10] - Quote I don't think it would be good to nerf them until after there ability to perform there logi role has been improved, or atleast functional. I have had both a well fit limbus and a crap fit chary, my chary is way tougher. there is just not enough AV counters to sheild lavs. Skilled forge gunners have no problems with them. But they are very rare. But at the same time all lavs are pretty easy to kill/avoid Flux proxy mines have been mentioned. Or flux av grenades would even them out.

THEAMAZING POTHEAD Not Guilty EoN. 63	Posted - 2013.07.21 02:04:00 - [11] - Quote Its definitely just the charybdis that needs its skill of resistance that allows people to have almost 60% damage resistance total that needs to be fixed, as this makes lai dai packed AV nades take 4-5 nades, Ishukone assault FG shots take 3 shots, and proto swarms god knows how many shots, this lets the charybdis easily be completely invincible when combined with its speed. The limbus sort of fine because its slower and has a base weakness to AV nades, letting lai dai packed AV nades usually take 3, which is manageable most of the time. Of course if your team doesn't have a proto AVer w/ nades or swarms, the limbus can pose a serious threat as well.
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 311	Posted - 2013.07.21 02:07:00 - [12] - Quote I'd be tempted to skill into an LLAV if they actually gave you points for doing what it's supposed to. Unless they do and this has changed recently.
We are 138 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 143	Posted - 2013.07.21 02:10:00 - [13] - Quote regular LAV, caldari LLAV, gallente LLAV... meh its all the same when I blow the driver out of the thing with my blaster on my tank. Tanks are a very good counter to any thing other that a bigger, meaner tank or in some cases a skilled assault dropship pilot.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 899	Posted - 2013.07.21 03:48:00 - [14] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Both are OP, but the Caldari is worse. I need to shoot out the driver, ram it with a tank, or try and hold it down if it crashes, just to be in with a *chance of destroying one. What really disappoints me about the free LAV removal, is that the various suggestions for a nerf to roadkilling would have solved both problems quite succinctly. I really dont feel that the Limbus is OP. Just because it's hard to take out doesnt mean that it's OP that's what many DUST players fail to understand.
Auld Syne Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 47	Posted - 2013.07.21 04:02:00 - [15] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Just because it's hard to take out doesnt mean that it's OP that's what many DUST players fail to understand. !!!!!!QUOTE OF THE YEAR!!!!!
KR-91N Intara Direct Action Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.07.21 09:51:00 - [16] - Quote Some counters include: 1. Suicide a militia LAV into it. 2. Bait it into an area where it is likely to get stuck. 3. Go into tight area where the LAV has to slow down and correct to get you and shoot the driver. 4. Hack that blaster turret. 5. Look both ways before you cross the street.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 847	Posted - 2013.07.21 10:04:00 - [17] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Both are OP, but the Caldari is worse. I need to shoot out the driver, ram it with a tank, or try and hold it down if it crashes, just to be in with a *chance of destroying one. What really disappoints me about the free LAV removal, is that the various suggestions for a nerf to roadkilling would have solved both problems quite succinctly. I really dont feel that the Limbus is OP. Just because it's hard to take out doesnt mean that it's OP that's what many DUST players fail to understand. I steal them occasionally. Easiest kills I ever get. They're overpowered because they're hard to kill, despite not being dedicated to assault. Sound familiar? It's the exact same scenario as the caldari logis. CCP couldn't think of any other way to make them effective in their roles than making them as tough as a tank.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 902	Posted - 2013.07.21 18:18:00 - [18] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Both are OP, but the Caldari is worse. I need to shoot out the driver, ram it with a tank, or try and hold it down if it crashes, just to be in with a chance of destroying one. What really disappoints me about the free LAV removal, is that the various suggestions for a nerf to roadkilling would have solved both problems quite succinctly. I really dont feel that the Limbus is OP. Just because it's hard to take out doesnt mean that it's OP that's what many DUST players fail to understand. I steal them occasionally. Easiest kills I ever get. They're overpowered because they're hard to kill, despite not being dedicated to assault. Sound familiar? It's the exact same scenario as the caldari logis. CCP couldn't think of any other way to make them effective in their roles than making them as tough as a tank. Auld Syne wrote:* Sgt Kirk wrote: Just because it's hard to take out doesnt mean that it's OP that's what many DUST players fail to understand. !!!!!!QUOTE OF THE YEAR!!!!!
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 326	Posted - 2013.07.21 18:32:00 - [19] - Quote Let me throw something in here. Today, I got shot out of my Charybdis by a swarm
Ynned Ivanova Decrepid Old Sods 20	Posted - 2013.07.21 18:48:00 - [20] - Quote I'll add flux grenades into the mix.

Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 2447	Posted - 2013.07.21 18:58:00 - [21] - Quote Neither of them needed a buff. I drove a Limbus in Chromosome, and the only way it was ever destroyed was if it got stuck or glitched out.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 857	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:01:00 - [22] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: [quote=Sgt Kirk][quote=Chunky Munkey]Both are OP, but the Caldari is worse. I need to shoot out the driver, ram it with a tank, or try and hold it down if it crashes, just to be in with a *chance of destroying one. What really disappoints me about the free LAV removal, is that the various suggestions for a nerf to roadkilling would have solved both problems quite succinctly. I really dont feel that the Limbus is OP. Just because it's hard to take out doesnt mean that it's OP that's what many DUST players fail to understand. Perhaps you missed my point: Making something which is specialised for attack, hard to kill, is not OP. Making something that is specialised for support, harder to kill than the above, is OP. Your argument is not sound, because it fails to take into account just how tough these vehicles are, and the role they are meant to fulfil.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 909	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:04:00 - [23] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: [quote=Sgt Kirk][quote=Chunky Munkey]Both are OP, but the Caldari is worse. I need to shoot out the driver, ram it with a tank, or try and hold it down if it crashes, just to be in with a *chance of destroying one. What really disappoints me about the free LAV removal, is that the various suggestions for a nerf to roadkilling would have solved both problems quite succinctly. I really dont feel that the Limbus is OP. Just because it's hard to take out doesnt mean that it's OP that's what many DUST players fail to understand. Perhaps you missed my point: Making something which is specialised for attack, hard to kill, is not OP. Making something that is specialised for support, harder to kill than the above, is OP. Your argument is not sound, because it fails to take into account just how tough these vehicles are, and the role they are meant to fulfil. but we don't have an attack variant of the Gallente LAV. We only have the basic LAV with no perks whatsoever. P.S. Well we have a scout LAV but lol who uses that. It has less armor than the milita Baloch LAV.
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD 92	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:20:00 - [24] - Quote I personally don't have the skills to use one, but I've had people spawn me in some and I'm sure they would actually be used for logistics purposes if people actually got WP for using the repper and if it wasn't so clunky to use.
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 790	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:57:00 - [25] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: i started to lol at the first sign llav's were not being used for their intended purposes. my reason being the inevitable nerf hammer yet to hit them. i have yet to see one being used for any sort of logistical purpose. no one is safe in this game someone might actually be able to kill one 1 day if we use them for the intended purpose the community still shts on us so we might as well just use them to troll until the nerf comes. it doesnt matter if you're a medic that drives a LLAV that reps shield tanks and active scans up to 100m, if you drive a LLAV you will be harrassed for it, so get your troll hat on and start your engine
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 972	Posted - 2013.07.22 00:03:00 - [26] - Quote I feel that the logi LAV's need to be able to take a visceral beating like they do now, but they also need a legit weakness. That weakess should be webifiers.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 624	Posted - 2013.07.22 03:31:00 - [27] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Let me throw something in here. Today, I got shot out of my Charybdis by a swarm Karma payback for skilling into one and please spare me the "I only use it to logi with" yeah and the checks in the mail.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 624	Posted - 2013.07.22 03:34:00 - [28] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: i started to lol at the first sign llav's were not being used for their intended purposes. my reason being the inevitable nerf hammer yet to hit them. i have yet to see one being used for any sort of logistical purpose. no one is safe in this game someone might actually be able to kill one 1 day if we use them for the intended purpose the community still shts on us so we might as well just use them to troll until the nerf comes. it doesnt matter if you're a medic that drives a LLAV that reps shield tanks and active scans up to 100m, if you drive a LLAV you will be harrassed for it, so get your troll hat on and start your engine I say! good job!! the player base went from MORE than 9000 to LESS than 5000. I say! soon you will be able to launch a Dust game and run the entire match with no one else on. Good job!!!


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