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sxwr
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
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Posted - 2013.07.19 17:48:00 -
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you already removed free lavs nerfed laser rifles almost out of existance and have done a few other things in the name of "balance". (sidenote(removing the free lavs has only resorted in people buying cheap ones)) but if ccp keeps listening to the people we will be playing a cheap version of cod by the holidays. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1224
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Posted - 2013.07.19 17:50:00 -
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sxwr wrote:you already removed free lavs nerfed laser rifles almost out of existance and have done a few other things in the name of "balance". (sidenote(removing the free lavs has only resorted in people buying cheap ones)) but if ccp keeps listening to the people we will be playing a cheap version of cod by the holidays. We already are.
Hail king AR. Go AR or go home. |
sxwr
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
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Posted - 2013.07.19 17:53:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:sxwr wrote:you already removed free lavs nerfed laser rifles almost out of existance and have done a few other things in the name of "balance". (sidenote(removing the free lavs has only resorted in people buying cheap ones)) but if ccp keeps listening to the people we will be playing a cheap version of cod by the holidays. We already are. Hail king AR. Go AR or go home.
well it is all the people that run ar that complain isnt it |
Bob Teller
Red Star. EoN.
37
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Posted - 2013.07.19 17:56:00 -
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Laser rifle needed a nerf and as they are right now,they are not usless as people say.Tac ar nerf was perfect,rof reduced and less clip in magazine.Mass driver was overnerfed but then put back to normal.Caldari logi nerf seems resonable,i dont know what you are talking about?Now lets wait for the flaylock nerf,,,or maybe you think the flaylock is perfectly balance right? |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
224
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Posted - 2013.07.19 17:57:00 -
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Im going to take my repair tool and shove up the rear of every ar user....hopefully it will be very painful |
sxwr
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
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Posted - 2013.07.19 17:59:00 -
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Bob Teller wrote:Laser rifle needed a nerf and as they are right now,they are not usless as people say.Tac ar nerf was perfect,rof reduced and less clip in magazine.Mass driver was overnerfed but then put back to normal.Caldari logi nerf seems resonable,i dont know what you are talking about?Now lets wait for the flaylock nerf,,,or maybe you think the flaylock is perfectly balance right?
i do not use flaylocks but i believe that there very over rated the only thing i could recomend for them is a range reduction it should only be used for close range |
Pvt Numnutz
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
82
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:17:00 -
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Hahaha fool. I actually went and played a few games of call of booty black cocks 2 and if you think dust is even close that then you are either not playing dust or not playing cod. If the remove shields and armor and make it so that every weapon two hit kills you and snipers always one hit, if they completely remove tanks, dropships, and lav's (not just the free ones) and when they remove massive maps with 15 vs 15 and when they add kill streaks like insta kill drone and rolling death machine. In the games I played in cod I was trying to play like dust, id see someone who had a good vantage on an area, try to run to some cover and just get killed instantly. Not like cover even matters because you can shoot through anything. Not to mention the campers, which are everywhere. I mean its not even like your loosing anything, you get the same gun no matter what. There are no tactics just learning spawns and routes. Heck I can even pick up dlc guns when I'm a lvl 1 and kill people with them, why even care about anything? Dust doesn't even have space niggers or durkas to kill. There is more tactics involved in the warbarge before a battle looking at the people your gonna play to see what type of suit your enemies will be wearing than in 10 prestiges of cod, please sir your argument is invalid. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
632
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:26:00 -
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Another "I hate CoD" thread...seriously.. I don't like CoD either. But every time something is not completely to you liking, making a CoD hate comment, is getting boring...
Can you start locking this threads or something ? |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
374
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:27:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Hahaha fool. I actually went and played a few games of call of booty black cocks 2 and if you think dust is even close that then you are either not playing dust or not playing cod. If the remove shields and armor and make it so that every weapon two hit kills you and snipers always one hit, if they completely remove tanks, dropships, and lav's (not just the free ones) and when they remove massive maps with 15 vs 15 and when they add kill streaks like insta kill drone and rolling death machine. Then and only then will dust resemble cod. In the games I played in cod I was trying to play like dust, id see someone who had a good vantage on an area, try to run to some cover and just get killed instantly. Not like cover even matters because you can shoot through anything. Not to mention the campers, which are everywhere. I mean its not even like your loosing anything, you get the same gun no matter what. There are no tactics just learning spawns and routes. Heck I can even pick up dlc guns when I'm a lvl 1 and kill people with them, why even care about anything? Dust doesn't even have space niggers or durkas to kill. There is more tactics involved in the warbarge before a battle looking at the people your gonna play to see what type of suit your enemies will be wearing than in 10 prestiges of cod, please sir your argument is invalid.
So which ones the better game.
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Medical Crash
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
23
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:34:00 -
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As long as CCP fixes the freaking aiming in this game, then I don't care what it becomes. I miss using shotguns with proficiency, but the current aiming system makes it very difficult to make this enjoyable. |
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Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
179
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:35:00 -
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Stop being so melodramatic. |
kiro of justice
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:37:00 -
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CoD's gameplay mechanics aren't broken. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
511
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:37:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:sxwr wrote:you already removed free lavs nerfed laser rifles almost out of existance and have done a few other things in the name of "balance". (sidenote(removing the free lavs has only resorted in people buying cheap ones)) but if ccp keeps listening to the people we will be playing a cheap version of cod by the holidays. We already are. Hail king AR. Go AR or go home.
A clear sign someone is a pubscrub.
They think the AR is the king of all weapons. |
Mintqueer
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:45:00 -
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CoD has more gungame than this thing and I don't like CoD |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
633
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:46:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Buster Friently wrote:sxwr wrote:you already removed free lavs nerfed laser rifles almost out of existance and have done a few other things in the name of "balance". (sidenote(removing the free lavs has only resorted in people buying cheap ones)) but if ccp keeps listening to the people we will be playing a cheap version of cod by the holidays. We already are. Hail king AR. Go AR or go home. A clear sign someone is a pubscrub. They think the AR is the king of all weapons.
You forgot the "Go back to CoD" comment at the end of you sentence ...
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:47:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:sxwr wrote:you already removed free lavs nerfed laser rifles almost out of existance and have done a few other things in the name of "balance". (sidenote(removing the free lavs has only resorted in people buying cheap ones)) but if ccp keeps listening to the people we will be playing a cheap version of cod by the holidays. We already are. Hail king AR. Go AR or go home. ar is fine now. and i'm a tank driver. flaylocks are a lot more powerful. so r contact nades. i can never kill these ppl with my ar. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
297
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:52:00 -
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Bob Teller wrote:Laser rifle needed a nerf and as they are right now,they are not usless as people say.Tac ar nerf was perfect,rof reduced and less clip in magazine.Mass driver was overnerfed but then put back to normal.Caldari logi nerf seems resonable,i dont know what you are talking about?Now lets wait for the flaylock nerf,,,or maybe you think the flaylock is perfectly balance right? Lasers did not need a nerf stupid people need better tactics iv never used lasers but damn they were easy as hell to avoid its stupid people that ruin this game what kind of tactic is running into the open with no cover? Your asking to die but oh no the laser rifle was op..get real |
MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
145
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:55:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Bob Teller wrote:Laser rifle needed a nerf and as they are right now,they are not usless as people say.Tac ar nerf was perfect,rof reduced and less clip in magazine.Mass driver was overnerfed but then put back to normal.Caldari logi nerf seems resonable,i dont know what you are talking about?Now lets wait for the flaylock nerf,,,or maybe you think the flaylock is perfectly balance right? Lasers did not need a nerf stupid people need better tactics iv never used lasers but damn they were easy as hell to avoid its stupid people that ruin this game what kind of tactic is running into the open with no cover? Your asking to die but oh no the laser rifle was op..get real
Um viziam was a death sentence especially when you consider how much open terrain there is to traverse. But yea it got hammered hard. |
Pvt Numnutz
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
82
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:57:00 -
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fenrir storm wrote:
So which ones the better game.
Depends if you like simple shooters that you can get gun skins and is more of a competative twitch shooter really then cods your game. If you like games where you have to think, use cover and use tactics to survive. Where you are rewarded for a job you do in a team then dust is the game for you. Cods is clearly designed for 13 year olds, unless your 20 and really dig a map designed around a skate park. Dust is clearly designed for 20+ years old as it involves a lot of math and is in a truly brutal universe that's clearly unforgiving.
Your prefference |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
298
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Posted - 2013.07.19 19:05:00 -
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Bob Teller wrote:Laser rifle needed a nerf and as they are right now,they are not usless as people say.Tac ar nerf was perfect,rof reduced and less clip in magazine.Mass driver was overnerfed but then put back to normal.Caldari logi nerf seems resonable,i dont know what you are talking about?Now lets wait for the flaylock nerf,,,or maybe you think the flaylock is perfectly balance right? Lasers did not need a nerf stupid people need better tactics iv never used lasers but damn they were easy as hell to avoid its stupid people that ruin this game what kind of tactic is running into the open with no cover? Your asking to die but oh no the laser rifle was op..get real Um viziam was a death sentence especially when you consider how much open terrain there is to traverse. But yea it got hammered hard. I had no problem with it idk why everyone else did I found it easy to counter or avoid |
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sxwr
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
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Posted - 2013.07.19 19:34:00 -
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i was saying that the game could end up like cod with everything that people want as balances |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6252
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Posted - 2013.07.19 19:36:00 -
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Wait wait wait. This guy is complaining about Dust 514 nerfing weapons and comparing it to a game that 'refuses' to balance anything in its long history? |
Fist Groinpunch
Goonfeet Top Men.
21
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Posted - 2013.07.19 20:02:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Bob Teller wrote:Laser rifle needed a nerf and as they are right now,they are not usless as people say.Tac ar nerf was perfect,rof reduced and less clip in magazine.Mass driver was overnerfed but then put back to normal.Caldari logi nerf seems resonable,i dont know what you are talking about?Now lets wait for the flaylock nerf,,,or maybe you think the flaylock is perfectly balance right? Lasers did not need a nerf stupid people need better tactics iv never used lasers but damn they were easy as hell to avoid its stupid people that ruin this game what kind of tactic is running into the open with no cover? Your asking to die but oh no the laser rifle was op..get real Um viziam was a death sentence especially when you consider how much open terrain there is to traverse. But yea it got hammered hard. I had no problem with it idk why everyone else did I found it easy to counter or avoid
LRs were definitely busted in Chromosome once team spawning was made less random. I had LRs at lvl 1, and 90% of the time I was in the top spot in the killboard at the end of the match in Manus Peak ambush with scores averaging 18-0, 22-2, etc, with just the standard LR with no damage mods.
There were two back to back matches on that map that I ended with 34-0, 36-2, so yes, LRs were definitely amazing back then. Even now in Uprising with all the new guns and mechanics, there's nothing quite like getting three kills off one continuous beam like back in Chromosome. To this day I still wonder whether I would have been able to chain four kills had I maxed out the LR skill and ran the Viziam. |
Provolonee
Undefined Risk DARKSTAR ARMY
94
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Posted - 2013.07.19 20:04:00 -
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What is there to balance in cod? Only 2 guns in that game , AR and mini AR. If you look up Dmg spread sheets of the weapons they all have = time 2 kill. The only difference is in recoil patterns. Some like a vertical rise some like a circle grouping. I feel sorry for Ccp, the amount of data that has to be calculated with each round fired is pretty nuts. |
BIind Shot
killa clones
4
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Posted - 2013.07.19 20:14:00 -
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Fist Groinpunch wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Bob Teller wrote:Laser rifle needed a nerf and as they are right now,they are not usless as people say.Tac ar nerf was perfect,rof reduced and less clip in magazine.Mass driver was overnerfed but then put back to normal.Caldari logi nerf seems resonable,i dont know what you are talking about?Now lets wait for the flaylock nerf,,,or maybe you think the flaylock is perfectly balance right? Lasers did not need a nerf stupid people need better tactics iv never used lasers but damn they were easy as hell to avoid its stupid people that ruin this game what kind of tactic is running into the open with no cover? Your asking to die but oh no the laser rifle was op..get real Um viziam was a death sentence especially when you consider how much open terrain there is to traverse. But yea it got hammered hard. I had no problem with it idk why everyone else did I found it easy to counter or avoid LRs were definitely busted in Chromosome once team spawning was made less random. I had LRs at lvl 1, and 90% of the time I was in the top spot in the killboard at the end of the match in Manus Peak ambush with scores averaging 18-0, 22-2, etc, with just the standard LR with no damage mods. There were two back to back matches on that map that I ended with 34-0, 36-2, so yes, LRs were definitely amazing back then. Even now in Uprising with all the new guns and mechanics, there's nothing quite like getting three kills off one continuous beam like back in Chromosome. To this day I still wonder whether I would have been able to chain four kills had I maxed out the LR skill and ran the Viziam.
I can never go toe to toe with a laser rifle. They bring my shields down in 1.5 seconds and kills me at 2.5. I take cover but every time I poke my nose out it gets burned. I always have to wait for someone to flank him or at least get his aggro. |
Bob Teller
Red Star. EoN.
41
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Posted - 2013.07.19 22:55:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Bob Teller wrote:Laser rifle needed a nerf and as they are right now,they are not usless as people say.Tac ar nerf was perfect,rof reduced and less clip in magazine.Mass driver was overnerfed but then put back to normal.Caldari logi nerf seems resonable,i dont know what you are talking about?Now lets wait for the flaylock nerf,,,or maybe you think the flaylock is perfectly balance right? Lasers did not need a nerf stupid people need better tactics iv never used lasers but damn they were easy as hell to avoid its stupid people that ruin this game what kind of tactic is running into the open with no cover? Your asking to die but oh no the laser rifle was op..get real So you are actually saying that a viziam with 4 complex dammage mods was balance before uprising and players who were dying from it were stupid.I like this guy he's funny. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1228
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Posted - 2013.07.19 22:59:00 -
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Bob Teller wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Bob Teller wrote:Laser rifle needed a nerf and as they are right now,they are not usless as people say.Tac ar nerf was perfect,rof reduced and less clip in magazine.Mass driver was overnerfed but then put back to normal.Caldari logi nerf seems resonable,i dont know what you are talking about?Now lets wait for the flaylock nerf,,,or maybe you think the flaylock is perfectly balance right? Lasers did not need a nerf stupid people need better tactics iv never used lasers but damn they were easy as hell to avoid its stupid people that ruin this game what kind of tactic is running into the open with no cover? Your asking to die but oh no the laser rifle was op..get real So you are actually saying that a viziam with 4 complex dammage mods was balance before uprising and players who were dying from it were stupid.I like this guy he's funny. Viziam was bugged, but it was the only out of balance laser. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1969
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Posted - 2013.07.19 23:54:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:fenrir storm wrote:
So which ones the better game.
Depends if you like simple shooters that you can get gun skins and is more of a competative twitch shooter really then cods your game. If you like games where you have to think, use cover and use tactics to survive. Where you are rewarded for a job you do in a team then dust is the game for you. Cods is clearly designed for 13 year olds, unless your 20 and really dig a map designed around a skate park. Dust is clearly designed for 20+ years old as it involves a lot of math and is in a truly brutal universe that's clearly unforgiving. Your prefference
Hilarious.
The gameplay in Dust 514 is the most simplistic, non-tactical, casual arcade shooter gameplay I've seen in an FPS.
What imaginary world are you living in, and can the rest of us come visit? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6271
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Posted - 2013.07.19 23:55:00 -
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Everyone remember the newer FAL? Semi-auto AR that people turned into full auto people saws?
and instead of Activision fixing it
Tournaments were forced to BAN it. |
Provolonee
Undefined Risk DARKSTAR ARMY
96
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Posted - 2013.07.20 00:54:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Bob Teller wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Bob Teller wrote:Laser rifle needed a nerf and as they are right now,they are not usless as people say.Tac ar nerf was perfect,rof reduced and less clip in magazine.Mass driver was overnerfed but then put back to normal.Caldari logi nerf seems resonable,i dont know what you are talking about?Now lets wait for the flaylock nerf,,,or maybe you think the flaylock is perfectly balance right? Lasers did not need a nerf stupid people need better tactics iv never used lasers but damn they were easy as hell to avoid its stupid people that ruin this game what kind of tactic is running into the open with no cover? Your asking to die but oh no the laser rifle was op..get real So you are actually saying that a viziam with 4 complex dammage mods was balance before uprising and players who were dying from it were stupid.I like this guy he's funny. Viziam was bugged, but it was the only out of balance laser.
Yup, and everybody tanked shields, because that is all we had. Could you imagine the scores you could get rolling nothing but explosives against full teams of galente. Glorious. |
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