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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.19 03:31:00 -
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aside from friendly fire being on in PC can someone please tell me why PC is so much tougher than pubs and the standard for determining what the best gear is?
the way I see it in PC everyone on your team is working together = easier
in a pub your own team screws you over half the time in a plethora of ways=harder
in PC you know who you are up against and have had like a day to prepare for it= easier
in a pub your thrown into a mix of god knows who on both sides fitted with god knows what employing who knows what kind of tactics (if any)=harder
in PC you make a lot more money for your trouble(granted the corp spends quite a bit but im speaking from the player perspective) =easier
in pubs 300 or 400k is a really good day= harder
so whats all the lol pub nonsense?
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
293
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:01:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Is this a troll post?
You're forced to fight at a particular time, against a highly organised and dedicated opponent.
The only way pubs are harder than PC, is if you're below the average skill level of Dust, in which case you might coast on the success of others in PC, but be outmatched against randoms.
this is honestly not a troll post... have you ever been in a pub match with multiple organized squads on both sides? granted they all may not be working together but each squad is and beyond that if you are a dust vet its pretty simple to know your role....
I get PC with 16 hardend vets on both sides coordinating with friendly fire makes for an even tougher challenge... but so much so that every pub match is just lol and every PC is the pinnacle of rough and tough challenge?
I haven't done much PC at all so im trying to honestly understand.... |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
293
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:08:00 -
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Badwolf Jones wrote:From my point of view, running an organised squad of six in a public game often means we win easily if we're playing against a team full of single players doing their own thing. They become boring one sided matches where we end up red lining the other team after the first push.
This changes when the other side also has an organised squad, the sides are more balanced and it often goes down to either better squad or side with the most organised blueberries.
What changes in PC matches is that both sides are organised right from the start. You pick your squads and select players to full certain roles. For example, you may have one squad that contains Heavies as you want them to hold an interior objective.
In PC, you have a game plan that the whole team works to, but so does the other side. You set the game plan in motion and it goes down to skill and tactics. Having the ability to change the plan, adapt it is team wide and can really turn a close match. This isn't the case with Pub matches where it's often a case of just everyone attacking one point at a time and no-one defending the other points as the randoms are off in the hills pretending to be ace snipers.
thank you a very good break down... I haven't really done much PC so when I hear PC only dusties speak of lolpubs I wonder why...I have been in quite a few of these more organized pubs and they are anything but lol imo... however I have also been in my fair share of stomps so my initial thoughts were maybe these PC vets were involved in to many pub stomps and therefore simply had a misconception of pub matches which I believe can be challenging even to the best of players. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
293
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:16:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:how is going up against 16 organized players = easy? Don't get me started on this guy, Seymor obviously doesn't know much about first person shooters. Just a classic eve player.
aren't you supposed to be playing COD? |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
294
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:21:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Badwolf Jones wrote:From my point of view, running an organised squad of six in a public game often means we win easily if we're playing against a team full of single players doing their own thing. They become boring one sided matches where we end up red lining the other team after the first push.
This changes when the other side also has an organised squad, the sides are more balanced and it often goes down to either better squad or side with the most organised blueberries.
What changes in PC matches is that both sides are organised right from the start. You pick your squads and select players to full certain roles. For example, you may have one squad that contains Heavies as you want them to hold an interior objective.
In PC, you have a game plan that the whole team works to, but so does the other side. You set the game plan in motion and it goes down to skill and tactics. Having the ability to change the plan, adapt it is team wide and can really turn a close match. This isn't the case with Pub matches where it's often a case of just everyone attacking one point at a time and no-one defending the other points as the randoms are off in the hills pretending to be ace snipers. thank you a very good break down... I haven't really done much PC so when I hear PC only dusties speak of lolpubs I wonder why...I have been in quite a few of these more organized pubs and they are anything but lol imo... however I have also been in my fair share of stomps so my initial thoughts were maybe these PC vets were involved in to many pub stomps and therefore simply had a misconception of pub matches which I believe can be challenging even to the best of players. The people you fight in PC tend to be high skill and high SP. it's also no holds barred go for the win... No one cares about I'd in PC. It's waaaay harder than lol pubs. But if they change matchmaking.... That might change.
I sincerely hope they do change matchmaking....
for someone like me who hasn't had the chance to do much PC I would like to do more consistenly challenging pub matches.
I don't like to pub stomp... its no fun.... I like a hard fought victory its a hell of a lot more rewarding and when I get into a pub match that provides me with that I always wish there was some way I could have a rematch with the same teams.
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
300
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Posted - 2013.07.19 16:29:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:PC Matches are ruthless, have you ever seen all 5 points be captured by the enemy team within 3 minutes of the match starting, and then pushed back to groundbase?
PC matches are much more intense than Pub Matches, not only are they a true test of balance, they're a true test of skill and cooperation, they're nothing like pubs.
lol I have actually seen this in pubs..... |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
300
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Posted - 2013.07.19 16:31:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:how is going up against 16 organized players = easy?
never said it was...
but how is having 16 unorganized players on your own team easy either? |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
303
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Posted - 2013.07.19 16:39:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:How about you leave your NPC corp and start looking for joining the top corps? Only by doing that you'll get a taste of PC. Hint: The framerate in PC is terrible when 20 uplinks are deployed and 6~8 competitive players are shooting at one another over an objective.
if your referring to me and by npc corp you mean
New Player Corporation (cause that's who we cater to) I like it here we have a wonderful group of people, a good many of them quite skilled in the game, vets of PC who have left and come back because of the environment we foster.
we have no ego
we have no politics
we believe in having fun, teaching and learning
and if being here means I never get involved in a proper PC match im willing to accept that for the great rewards I receive everyday just being a part of dust university and the ivy league. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
303
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Posted - 2013.07.19 16:49:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:how is going up against 16 organized players = easy? Most of those 16 players have SP over 10-12 mil. Specialized units with the best gear available... 
a lot of pubs I go into I see quite a few teams where the majority are in the 10 - 12 mil sp range..... you may be aware of the infamous proto stomp epidemic that's all the QQ in the forums.... |
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