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CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization 41	Posted - 2013.07.18 19:25:00 - [1] - Quote this lav was weak.. people made up stories about them being op. that was nonexistent the fast is that ppl were scared of dieing by them plain and simple. there were some maps where every1 called an lav in the begining of a map but the free mlt lav is no diffrent from the bpo lav that can be purchased. why was this great useful free vehicle removed. now pubstomp matches r going to be worse. tanks r going to obliterate everything even more. and there wont be a single free lav to cause fear to the ppl using proto gear.... those unfitted free lavs could not tank proto swarms or much less a crb7 swarm... an unfitted lav can not survive a forge gun. they can not survive 2 av grenades that r thrown in quick succession. now those fitted lavs.. they can do tank that av stuff but an unfitted free lav cant.. so why where these free weak lavs removed?... sure they were many rumors about them flying around all over about killing tanks and mowing every1 down with a front bumper but that never existed. the only ppl who complained about them where stupid ppl running around in the road... it was a great tactical device that kept some if not most proto users at bay. its easy to avoid the free lav. its easy to destroy the free lav.. its easy to use a free lav. so why was this free lav removed?.....
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 75	Posted - 2013.07.18 19:34:00 - [2] - Quote I don't drive so I couldn't tell ya. Good question though.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 90	Posted - 2013.07.18 19:38:00 - [3] - Quote They got removed because you could easily kill a lot of protos without spending any money at all. You get blown up? No harm done to you. This behaviour encouraged people to use them as Murdertaxis. This is the reason why they were removed. You can still use them as Murdertaxis if you want. Now you just have to spend a few ISK.
Void Echo Internal Error. 748	Posted - 2013.07.18 19:38:00 - [4] - Quote they have more hp than tanks do, and since they are faster as well, its nearly impossible to kill the while moving
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3408	Posted - 2013.07.18 19:48:00 - [5] - Quote I haven't logged in today. Did they actually get removed? /rushes to the announcement section
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization 41	Posted - 2013.07.18 19:48:00 - [6] - Quote ok they did NOT have more HP than tanks.. now the logi lav does but that one costs money!... and they only murder taxi was the logistics lav... so what u get killed by a free mlt lav.. ur fault for being in the middle of the road.. or not paying attention... nothing should be on top in this game... just because a certain ftting costs more shouldnt mean anything.. players shouldnt be near invincible in a proto suit..
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD 83	Posted - 2013.07.18 20:21:00 - [7] - Quote Just spend 40K ISK on a militia LAV and stop whining.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 5053	Posted - 2013.07.18 20:29:00 - [8] - Quote The collision damage was OP, not the LAVs being free. Sucks they'll be removed, but won't affect me much considering they're cheap.
Jade Hasegawa Intrepidus XI EoN. 5	Posted - 2013.07.18 20:38:00 - [9] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: ok they did NOT have more HP than tanks.. now the logi lav does but that one costs money!... and they only murder taxi was the logistics lav... so what u get killed by a free mlt lav.. ur fault for being in the middle of the road.. or not paying attention... nothing should be on top in this game... just because a certain ftting costs more shouldnt mean anything.. players shouldnt be near invincible in a proto suit.. Our fault when some lay scrub drives them upstairs and runs over ppl on balconies? The DEVs stated why, the free LAV got abused to hell by ppl, my LLAV is too damn expensive to risk as a murdertaxi, Let me guess, you spentalot of time running others down and now you will have to pay for them so you are whining, if that's the case then clearly DUST is not for you and you should go play Hello Kitty Adventures or Farmville. Stop whining and play the damn game, if itmatters to you that much buy a package that gives you a blueprint LAV tocarry on being a road killing nooblet in! If you dont do that then I apologies for the insult in advance, but yeah I am sick of it, I have even seen ppl trying this crap in PC matches for gods sake (and while these prats did that we capped all the null cannons and owned the hell out of the enemy team)
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization 42	Posted - 2013.07.18 20:39:00 - [10] - Quote they only time i got out the lav was when the other entire team pulled out full proto....

Jade Hasegawa Intrepidus XI EoN. 6	Posted - 2013.07.18 20:57:00 - [11] - Quote Heh only time I run proto is PC battles, why risk something that expensive in pubs? I have lost count how many proto's I have merked with ADV level weapons the better gear helps but so does thinking tacticaly, using cover and working in your squad, if they are running proto, simples method, GANG UP ON THEM, that fancy suit and high sheild and armour is not going to last with several ppl dumping shots into them at once, whic means no murder taxis. I will admit I have done the murder taxi, but only a couple of times when bored to hell cos I was on a teamor randoms who were combining AFKing in the MCC and hanging back woth sniper rifles, its hard to capture the null cannons with 4 to 6 ppl only out of 16
Demon Buddah The Phoenix Federation 24	Posted - 2013.07.18 21:24:00 - [12] - Quote If people would carry AV they wouldn't have a problem with these free cars. Besides, anytime I use the free cars and run over someone going fast I fly in the air lol or just stop. That's enough time for someone else to blow me up. The only cars that doesn't do this is the logi cars. I've killed someone and stole their car and was able to go full speed and still pummel enemies. WTF?
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1020	Posted - 2013.07.18 21:27:00 - [13] - Quote You wanna run people over in a MLT LAV? Pay for it. You dont use them as a murder taxi and only as transportation? Buy a 40k ISK lav and recall it when you're done. 40k ISK is a small price to pay compared to the ridiculous amount of murder taxiing that was ruining pub matches.
Tal-Rakken DUST University Ivy League 29	Posted - 2013.07.18 21:33:00 - [14] - Quote The only sad part about this is my proto swarm will get less use loved playing chicken With the mlt lavs and winning lol
Phantom Vaxer The Generals EoN. 34	Posted - 2013.07.18 22:54:00 - [15] - Quote They should've just nerf the shield a bit on them
Skipper Jones Molon Labe. League of Infamy 446	Posted - 2013.07.18 23:08:00 - [16] - Quote I rather have a nerf than a removal... But that's ok. I'll use the tears as polish when I get run over by my LLAV I never really used my LLAVs because I had free ones
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization 44	Posted - 2013.07.20 20:26:00 - [17] - Quote recalling takes to long in that time of recalling i could have established a foots hold by taking several objectives before the enemy team arrives.. ive seen entire teams using full proto in instant battle.. thats the perfect murder taxi time its the only reason to use an lav... if u got run over by them ur fault for not paying attention... ive used the free lav alot i always spawn away from the firefight zones so i dont get spawn killed like every who spawns into the middle of the firefight. now fitted lavs can and will survive alot more av stuff. unffitted free ones cant do that. they make easy target to draw fire. and by seeing how many have been blowin up on the field its not worth even 20k isk.... now if there was a gear restriction for insta battles then there would probably be less vehicle spam of lavs. the only time i saw them brought it in large numbers were when the other team pulled out full proto... and the only ppl i notice who complained about them all the time.... ppl who always use proto.... lavs can get to many places.. like drive up the stairs in a very, very, very vulnerable position... any player with av would be happy for a free kill...in that position... free lavs were easy to avoid... that is a fact.
XxGhazbaranxX The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 140	Posted - 2013.07.20 20:41:00 - [18] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: ...players shouldnt be near invincible in a proto suit... Players are only near invincible in proto suits because you don't have one. I don't have one yet but even in my advanced suit there is a nice difference in "staying power". I love killing proto suits with either my forge gun, remote explosives, a well cooked grenade, a militia shotgun to the face, a flux/any weapon combo, flux glitch, etc. Just find your way on how to slay them in the most embarrassing way possible so when they show up on the kill feed a smile comes to your face. I die a lot. I'm a gallente logi and the only logi with a pure support bonus and the only one that suffers 2 low slots and no high slots at standard level. My K/D is .73 the last time I checked and I don't care. I get the job done nicely with war points 1k+ per game most of the time. So I can tell you. Protos are not gods, They bleed And I hope you are inspired to make them bleed and work for every kill they get so when the battle ends it costs them too much. STORY: We got proto stomped. Then we chose to use heavy hitting weapons fro a high point to make their wallet hurt. After about 30 proto kills later by our squad theys stopped coming in expensive suits. Leaving the area open for a fair fight. WE WON. End of discussion. Make Their wallets hurt. It will make them stop. The same with tanks. Kill enough and they stop bringing them in, too much cost. We once killed a tank guy so many times that when we had another battle gainst him, all he could do was murder taxi because he knew we would either kill or make it impossible for him to use his tanks.
Pje251296 KILL ORDERS 60	Posted - 2013.07.20 20:42:00 - [19] - Quote All LAV's including the free Militia ones especially were being abused by players in and out of the Academy and letting the others take the objectives while you go on a murdering spree with something that should only be used for transportation. I saw too many LAV drivers in the Academy killing everything and not picking anybody to get to the objectives in Skirmish when I used my Sub-toon to see what it is like and it was bad. Nobody wants the new players who have no idea what the hell they need to do in Skirmish and Domination and only know that they can drive a taxi and murder everything as well as shoot.
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization 44	Posted - 2013.07.20 20:56:00 - [20] - Quote i use the free mlt lavs for transportation... the free mlt lavs r easy targets... ive killed plenty... to know that... and i also notice when bringing any vehicle to the field. some1 is always carrying av nades.. and if we just zoom out of this single topic about lavs... u dont see snipers running around taking objectives! u dont see forge gunners running into the middle of everything and hacking objectives.... u dont see tankers getting out and hacking objectives!... u dont see derpship pilots getting out and hacking objectives!.. but u can see the free mlt lav getting out and hacking objectives... his free vehicle is nothing but a decoy to attract ur attention while he gets out to shoot u... and if its a blueberry new to the game theres a perfect reason for him being in that car all day.. its because he cant do anything any ways!... i havnt been to battle academy because i haVE NO interest in making multiple merc accounts... but the only reason the were nicknamed murdr taxis were because ppl were to stupid to avoid them!.... if the lavs had a turret that can kill players while on the move then it might not be as reliant on its bumper.... but for small turrets to kill anything.. the target as to be in range and the vehicle as to be moving really slow to gun players down.. that small turret is just an hmg on wheels...

Alena Ventrallis Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 21	Posted - 2013.07.20 23:14:00 - [21] - Quote It's a measly 40k isk. I can buy 2-3 of them per win, on average. If you lose more than that in a match, then your either being a murdertaxi (in which case, you got your comeuppance) or your really bad at driving (and if you are trying to learn how to drive, I commend you for practicing, even if you don't help the team.) 40k is pocket change.
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization 44	Posted - 2013.07.20 23:49:00 - [22] - Quote i dont need practice every else does.... i mainly use my that free lav to make an epic entrance by driving off a cliff landing right in the middle of an enemy infested objective.. eradicate the enemy team before they realize what happened . then take the objective solo..... ive done this many of times... often losing the lav in the process.......
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 676	Posted - 2013.07.21 00:19:00 - [23] - Quote The one I buy is only 27k, so even more of a reason just to sucker up and pay for your services and recall them when done.
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization 44	Posted - 2013.07.21 00:21:00 - [24] - Quote the one u buy is the saga II... didnt ccp get rid of those?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3436	Posted - 2013.07.21 02:36:00 - [25] - Quote 40,000 ISK is not much. Hell, my ADV dropsuit costs about that much. Double that with my PRO scout fit. Just suck it up. Technically I'm not even sure if this even counts as a nerf since you only lost the capacity to call in an infinite amount of murder taxis. And guess what, I still see them everywhere.


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