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SlyFrenzy
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:38:00 -
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as you all know CCP tends to harshly nerf weapons and etc. like the laser rifle (can't remember the name) , tac AR , Creodon breach AR, and some other things (never been part of the beta so I don't know much.)
LAV'S and HAV got a rather big HP boost.
I honestly feel like CCP should adjust the numbers a little bit . what do you guys think? |
KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
94
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:40:00 -
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SlyFrenzy wrote:as you all know CCP tends to harshly nerf weapons and etc. like the laser rifle (can't remember the name) , tac AR , Creodon breach AR, and some other things (never been part of the beta so I don't know much.)
LAV'S and HAV got a rather big HP boost.
I honestly feel like CCP should adjust the numbers a little bit . what do you guys think?
Breach AR???? whats that gun XD we all used to use it closed beta then they destroyed it |
SlyFrenzy
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:44:00 -
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was the breach AR really that good?
it kinda sucks that i didn't have a chance to use it. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
726
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:45:00 -
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Tac is fine. L2aim |
KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:46:00 -
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SlyFrenzy wrote:was the breach AR really that good?
it kinda sucks that i didn't have a chance to use it.
it was the best for close combat if they didn't ruin it id be using it now but idc I still use AR's but I think taking off the sight was a bad idea imo
EDIT: I always use red dots or reflexs in other shooters |
Cat Merc
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
3273
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:47:00 -
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SlyFrenzy wrote:was the breach AR really that good?
it kinda sucks that i didn't have a chance to use it.
The dark days...
The legends speak of the Breach AR, the true Gallente AR.
Then the sorcerer CCP has slain the beast and kept it as a pet.
Malkai Inos wrote:Tac is fine. L2aim
Yup, it was one of those rare cases where CCP doesn't completely destroy a weapon when nerfing it. |
Pandora Mars
Afterlife Overseers
113
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:48:00 -
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As I said many times, there's no shame in a change of mind.
Some items got overnerfed and this is evident when no one brings them in the battlefield anymore. There is no shame really in admitting they got hit too hard and re-balancing them.
We need CCP to do this. We need more weapons to encourage diversity and variety.
As a Tac AR lover, I don't think it's useless now, I still use it and do good with it. But i would like its RoF set at 440-450 instead of 400. It's really a slight difference that helps people keeping a good fire cadence without make it jam.
The rest of the weapons you called out are complete junk right now, breach AR and Laser rifles are awful and that's a shame. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
3273
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:49:00 -
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Pandora Mars wrote:As I said many times, there's no shame in a change of mind.
Some items got overnerfed and this is evident when no one brings them in the battlefield anymore. There is no shame really in admitting they got hit too hard and re-balancing them.
We need CCP to do this. We need more weapons to encourage diversity and variety.
As a Tac AR lover, I don't think it's useless now, I still use it and do good with it. But i would like its RoF set at 440-450 instead of 400. It's really a slight difference that helps people keeping a good fire cadence without make it jam.
The rest of the weapons you called out are complete junk right now, breach AR and Laser rifles are awful and that's a shame.
LOL
Tac AR has more DPS than a normal AR with the current fire rate and you want MOAR?
Get lose, the TAC AR is fine, heck I use it. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1333
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:51:00 -
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TAC AR is fine, the reason most people dont use it is because its now only effective in its intended range (Medium - Long) where as the Basic AR is effective at CQC - Medium ranges where most engagements happen anyway. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
196
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:54:00 -
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KingBlade82 wrote:SlyFrenzy wrote:was the breach AR really that good?
it kinda sucks that i didn't have a chance to use it. it was the best for close combat if they didn't ruin it id be using it now but idc I still use AR's but I think taking off the sight was a bad idea imo EDIT: I always use red dots or reflexs in other shooters EDIT EDIT: also it wasn't overpowered in the way MD's or flaylocks r now u still had to be a good shot but spray and pray worked really well lol
Explosives are supposed to be op.... |
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KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
94
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:55:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:TAC AR is fine, the reason most people dont use it is because its now only effective in its intended range (Medium - Long) where as the Basic AR is effective at CQC - Medium ranges where most engagements happen anyway.
what he said I take down people pretty quick but I think ScR works better there lies the problem |
Pandora Mars
Afterlife Overseers
115
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:57:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Pandora Mars wrote:As I said many times, there's no shame in a change of mind.
Some items got overnerfed and this is evident when no one brings them in the battlefield anymore. There is no shame really in admitting they got hit too hard and re-balancing them.
We need CCP to do this. We need more weapons to encourage diversity and variety.
As a Tac AR lover, I don't think it's useless now, I still use it and do good with it. But i would like its RoF set at 440-450 instead of 400. It's really a slight difference that helps people keeping a good fire cadence without make it jam.
The rest of the weapons you called out are complete junk right now, breach AR and Laser rifles are awful and that's a shame. LOL Tac AR has more DPS than a normal AR with the current fire rate and you want MOAR? Get lose, the TAC AR is fine, heck I use it.
Don't be so dramatic. I said is fine. I would like a 10% higher RoF cap, tho, yes. When adrenaline runs into my veins it's easy for me to make it jam..... nothing I can do when I'm that hectic. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
2767
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:58:00 -
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They actually did a good job on nerfing re-balancing the TAC AR and didn't overbuff the MD when they neutered it at the start of the build. I don't expect to seeing them go Tonya Harding on anything in the future. But at the same time, there's still a lot of messes that need to be cleaned up from the blanket nerfs that went out in Uprising. |
KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
94
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:58:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:SlyFrenzy wrote:was the breach AR really that good?
it kinda sucks that i didn't have a chance to use it. it was the best for close combat if they didn't ruin it id be using it now but idc I still use AR's but I think taking off the sight was a bad idea imo EDIT: I always use red dots or reflexs in other shooters EDIT EDIT: also it wasn't overpowered in the way MD's or flaylocks r now u still had to be a good shot but spray and pray worked really well lol Explosives are supposed to be op....
yeah maybe IRL but in games.......ummmm no I don't even need to give any opinions others will soon enough ;) if it doesn't change id rather spec into it instead make my fights a hell of a lot easier lol |
Sona Nara
DUST University
Ivy League
8
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:08:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
The dark days...
The legends speak of the Breach AR, the true Gallente AR.
Then the sorcerer CCP has slain the beast and kept it as a pet.
I tried using the Breach AR for a while. I couldn't figure out why it was so rubbish :P |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3349
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:53:00 -
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SlyFrenzy wrote:LAV'S and HAV got a rather big HP boost.
LAVs, yes.
HAVs, no.
They altered the fitting mechanics to remove a 25% bonus to PG which was no big deal to armour (because they already have huge base PG), but a MASSIVE nerf to the ability for Shield tanks to actually shield tank, while also replacing the vehicle HP bonuses with Resistance bonuses at a smaller value. The "buff" that HAVs received was to give us back the base HP we lost from the nerf. Nothing to help fix the problems with our loss of fitting capacity, which costs more of our HP. When you take the PG changes into account, non-Enforcer HAVs lost more HP than they gained, and Enforcers didn't gain much, and Dropships, which were already seeing complaints about being unfairly fragile and difficult to fit were the only vehicles that didn't get anything back from the nerf. LAVs were the least-affected by the PG skill change, and the only vehicle that had more "OP" than "UP" complaints, and they were also the only vehicles given an across-the-board HP buff in excess of the HP buff that was removed from the skill tree. |
SlyFrenzy
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.21 06:32:00 -
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Personally I think breach AR Should have 450 RPM. To be at least useful. |
DRDEEZE TWO POINTO
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.21 07:14:00 -
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Actually I like to burst my shots with the tactical cause if you fire madly it bounces all over the place |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
194
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Posted - 2013.07.21 07:43:00 -
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The nerf to the dumbfire swarm was uncalled for. |
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