DUST Search - Suggest a skill reset for new patch of August

RydogV wrote:

A skill respec everytime they address balancing issues or introduce something new into the game is foolish and unrealistic. Everything gets tweaked over time so it is not like you are dealing with the same type of situation we have not all encountered at some point or another. Doubtful it is "game breaking" so improvise, adapt or get the heck out of the way.

As for new items that may have more appeal than whatever you skilled into before hand...we are all starting at zero with those so save your skill points if you want it bad enough, just like everyone else. When you buy a new TV, they don't let you bring it back and trade it for the newer model a few months later.

People gotta learn to live with the decisions they made based on the information they had at the time. Things will always evolve, that's life...even in a video game.

But I will tell you what...I would support each player having the option to respec once per year. It would have to cost AURUM and the player would only get back 80% of their total Skill Points. Then you have an option and we can stop seeing all the respec QQ threads pop up every time an update is announced.

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shikye KAIBA-Corporation Caladrius Alliance 9	Posted - 2013.07.18 07:50:00 - [1] - Quote The demand for the new patch of August I will demand a skill reset to new patch deployment of August The reason 1. New suit is perhaps add 2. This is thankfully even for new players 3. New weapon is added probably 4. Had a number of what you want the skill reset Among my Corp 5. Japanese translation is wrong, a lot of people have the wrong skill distribution I believe he was there is a skill reset because the same even when formal I think it is a little weak in English in Japanese, but mean to travel :) A thank you favor of everyone 8µ£êpü«µû¦pâæpââpâüpü½püñpüäpüªpü«Fªüµ£¢ tºüpü»8µ£êpü«µû¦pâæpââpâüs¦ÄsàÑµÖépü½pé¦pé¡pâ½pâ¬pé+pââpâêpéÆFªüµ£¢püÖpéï tÉåtö¦pü¿püùpüª n+æn+Äpüèpü¥péëpüÅµû¦püùpüäpé¦pâ+pâäpüîF++sèápüòpéîpéï n+Æn+Äµû¦FªÅpâùpâ¼péñpâñpâ+pü½s»+püùpüªpéépüôpéîpü»püépéèpüîpüƒpüäpüôpü¿püºpüépéï n+ôn+Äpüèpü¥péëpüÅµû¦püùpüäµ¡ªsÖ¿püîF++sèápüòpéîpéï n+ön+Ätºüpü«pé¦pâ+pâ¥pü«pü¬püïpüºpé¦pé¡pâ½pâ¬pé+pââpâêpéÆµ£¢péÇpéépü«püîsñÜµò¦püäpüƒ n+òn+ÄµùÑµ£¼F¬Ppü«t++F¿¦pü»pü+püípüîpüúpüªpüèpéèpÇüpüƒpüÅpüòpéôpü«pü¦pü¿püîpé¦pé¡pâ½TàìsêåpéÆTûôTüòpüêpüªpüäpéï µ¡ús+Åpü«TÜ¢pÇüµ¡ús+Ås+îpéésÉît¡ëpü«tÉåtö¦püºpé¦pé¡pâ½pâ¬pé+pââpâêpüîpüépüúpüƒpü«püápü¿tºüpü»FÇâpüêpüªpüäpü+püÖ tºüpü»µùÑµ£¼S¦¦püºs¦æpÇàFï¦F¬PpüîFïªµëïpüºpüÖpüîµäÅsæ¦pü»S+¥péÅpéïpü¿µÇ¥püäpü+püÖ tÜåµºÿpü«F¦¢µêÉpéêpéìpüùpüÅpüèpü¡püîpüäpüùpü+püÖn+Ün+ë
Alucard Fang Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 256	Posted - 2013.07.18 07:52:00 - [2] - Quote No, no, no. There will be no resets. What's the point anyways? If someone joins 5 years from now should everyone be reset? No. There's no difference in a new person joining today, than a new person joining 5 years from now.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 845	Posted - 2013.07.18 07:52:00 - [3] - Quote I think he put this in a translator but I agree with the gist of what this person said. Alucard Fang wrote: No, no, no. There will be no resets. What's the point anyways? If someone joins 5 years from now should everyone be reset? No. There's no difference in a new person joining today, than a new person joining 5 years from now. He means a skilll reset not a complete reset, as in you get all you SP back but it's unallocated
Void Echo Internal Error. 740	Posted - 2013.07.18 07:54:00 - [4] - Quote CCP stated before that there will never be anymore resets of skills other than the event of a total malfunction of the game and everyone gets ****** over again. until that happens, no more resets
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 845	Posted - 2013.07.18 07:55:00 - [5] - Quote Void Echo wrote: CCP stated before that there will never be anymore resets of skills other than the event of a total malfunction of the game and everyone gets ****** over again. until that happens, no more resets Does the current state of Dust count as a major malfunction?
Cosgar ParagonX 2742	Posted - 2013.07.18 07:58:00 - [6] - Quote If the translation was wrong on certain skills, that should automatically make you eligible for an optional respec since it's not your fault. Outside of anything else that was developer error, I wouldn't mind just getting a respec for every major build.
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood 881	Posted - 2013.07.18 08:01:00 - [7] - Quote Aye if a you put points in a skill for shields, and its actually armour... thats one thing... But your not going to get a repec for new things added.
Void Echo Internal Error. 744	Posted - 2013.07.18 08:32:00 - [8] - Quote Cosgar wrote: If the translation was wrong on certain skills, that should automatically make you eligible for an optional respec since it's not your fault. Outside of anything else that was developer error, I wouldn't mind just getting a respec for every major build. hes not talking about respect, hes talking about another big reset like what happened at open beta's launch. iv spent too much time to get where I am for it to just be taken away again damnit. asking for a reset is stupid because there will always be new players in this game, should we reset everyone for every new player that comes here? no that would mean that nobody would ever get any skills past a week thus making this game even more pointless.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 217	Posted - 2013.07.18 08:46:00 - [9] - Quote how about when the new suits and weapons come out then after that to bad so sad
Cosgar ParagonX 2749	Posted - 2013.07.18 08:54:00 - [10] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Cosgar wrote: If the translation was wrong on certain skills, that should automatically make you eligible for an optional respec since it's not your fault. Outside of anything else that was developer error, I wouldn't mind just getting a respec for every major build. hes not talking about respect, hes talking about another big reset like what happened at open beta's launch. iv spent too much time to get where I am for it to just be taken away again damnit. asking for a reset is stupid because there will always be new players in this game, should we reset everyone for every new player that comes here? no that would mean that nobody would ever get any skills past a week thus making this game even more pointless. At this point, I wouldn't mind a reset. But they would have to make some significant changes like an accelerated SP gain for new players, full passive SP gain to stop AFKing, an actual skill tree instead of narrow paths of SP sinks, every significant racial weapon/vehicle/dropsuit would need to be added, and the game would have to be fun enough to make people want to play instead of need to grind.

steadyhand amarr Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 950	Posted - 2013.07.18 08:54:00 - [11] - Quote Unless somthing was describe wrong NO resets ever. Dust514 is a long game type where planning ahead is key (think x-com as an example) making mistakes is part of the game as it rewards smart players or those that can see which way the wind is blowing :-)
Delta90212 R.I.f.t 11	Posted - 2013.07.18 08:56:00 - [12] - Quote CCP said NO resets but they didnt say NO respecs :)
Sloth9230 Deepspace Digital 2473	Posted - 2013.07.18 08:58:00 - [13] - Quote Ughh... no, you can wait till they add all the basics, instead of just a few
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 151	Posted - 2013.07.18 09:00:00 - [14] - Quote Can we really be sure the OP knows the difference between a "respec" and "reset" because it confused the hell out of me at first and English is my native language. Aside did anyone else chuckle at someone having to translate Japanesse to English for people who speak Icelandic and/or Chinese?
shikye KAIBA-Corporation Caladrius Alliance 11	Posted - 2013.07.18 11:11:00 - [15] - Quote I'm sorry, I was wrong It is a skill re-spec, not the skill reset
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 340	Posted - 2013.07.18 11:27:00 - [16] - Quote Imo players should start with one respect that can only be used before they have 2mill sp if they hit 2 mill sp the item will melt down and become brilliant golden amarr assault suits that they will use to conquer there enemies
We are 138 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 117	Posted - 2013.07.18 11:31:00 - [17] - Quote no thanks I would like to keep the SP I worked for thanks. CCP do not listen to this man/woman/derp he is obviously crazy. unless the player him self would like to reimburse me for the 20$ or so that I have spent for boosters? and every one else as well? Ya didn't thinks so. now HTFU and grind your self some SP bunny or go be a shameful one and go pull you pud guarding the MCC
Julius Vindice A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 195	Posted - 2013.07.18 11:35:00 - [18] - Quote No reset, I worked hard to get where I am and so did almost everyone else.
Poonmunch Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 108	Posted - 2013.07.18 14:13:00 - [19] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Cosgar wrote: If the translation was wrong on certain skills, that should automatically make you eligible for an optional respec since it's not your fault. Outside of anything else that was developer error, I wouldn't mind just getting a respec for every major build. hes not talking about respect, hes talking about another big reset like what happened at open beta's launch. iv spent too much time to get where I am for it to just be taken away again damnit. asking for a reset is stupid because there will always be new players in this game, should we reset everyone for every new player that comes here? no that would mean that nobody would ever get any skills past a week thus making this game even more pointless. I think he means an SP refund so they are unallocated, not taking them all away. If they did a reset and you didn't like it, you could put the SP back where you had them before. Changes are being made to the game itself. These changes are not "bad" SP allocations we have made. Munch
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3349	Posted - 2013.07.18 14:45:00 - [20] - Quote I think they should stick to the rules they've established with EVE. If you could use it before the update, you can use it after. Possible exceptions for newly-released items that have their skill prerequisites adjusted for balance reasons - in which case, anyone with these items deserves the option of a refund if they can no longer use said item. When they're adding new weapons that fill the same role as an existing one, players should NOT be given a respec, but should be given the option to swap their SP from the existing weapon to the new one if they want. No purchaseable respec. No full respec because of one or two new items. Partial and individually-managed respecs of directly affected skills when something is done that's going to directly affect how your skills work.

Operative 1171 Aajli D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass 81	Posted - 2013.07.18 14:46:00 - [21] - Quote Not being able to change up your skills periodically is bullshit anyway. This is a console FPS not EVE in all it's assumed grandeur. EVEs strict skill speccing system doesn't belong in a game like this. A monthly respec wouldn't hurt ****. Just CCP trying to be clever.
RydogV Shadow Company HQ 205	Posted - 2013.07.18 15:09:00 - [22] - Quote A skill respec everytime they address balancing issues or introduce something new into the game is foolish and unrealistic. Everything gets tweaked over time so it is not like you are dealing with the same type of situation we have not all encountered at some point or another. Doubtful it is "game breaking" so improvise, adapt or get the heck out of the way. As for new items that may have more appeal than whatever you skilled into before hand...we are all starting at zero with those so save your skill points if you want it bad enough, just like everyone else. When you buy a new TV, they don't let you bring it back and trade it for the newer model a few months later. People gotta learn to live with the decisions they made based on the information they had at the time. Things will always evolve, that's life...even in a video game. But I will tell you what...I would support each player having the option to respec once per year. It would have to cost AURUM and the player would only get back 80% of their total Skill Points. Then you have an option and we can stop seeing all the respec QQ threads pop up every time an update is announced.
Cy Clone1 Internal Error. 128	Posted - 2013.07.18 15:18:00 - [23] - Quote RydogV wrote: A skill respec everytime they address balancing issues or introduce something new into the game is foolish and unrealistic. Everything gets tweaked over time so it is not like you are dealing with the same type of situation we have not all encountered at some point or another. Doubtful it is "game breaking" so improvise, adapt or get the heck out of the way. As for new items that may have more appeal than whatever you skilled into before hand...we are all starting at zero with those so save your skill points if you want it bad enough, just like everyone else. When you buy a new TV, they don't let you bring it back and trade it for the newer model a few months later. People gotta learn to live with the decisions they made based on the information they had at the time. Things will always evolve, that's life...even in a video game. But I will tell you what...I would support each player having the option to respec once per year. It would have to cost AURUM and the player would only get back 80% of their total Skill Points. Then you have an option and we can stop seeing all the respec QQ threads pop up every time an update is announced. your a cold hearted bastard, *80% really? personally I like respecs, and ive never understood why so many people are so dead set against it. Is it because you have to reallocate them and that takes 5minutes? If your happy with your choices that's great, I want them so I can put my alts into the new vehicles that are coming out never.
RydogV Shadow Company HQ 205	Posted - 2013.07.18 15:31:00 - [24] - Quote Cy Clone1 wrote: your a cold hearted bastard, 80% really? personally I like respecs, and ive never understood why so many people are so dead set against it. Is it because you have to reallocate them and that takes 5minutes? If your happy with your choices that's great, I want them so I can put my alts into the new vehicles that are coming out never. The problem with arbitrarily handing out respecs all the time is that players and teams aren't forced to adapt gameplay and tactics* when changes occur. Instead they just start from scratch and build fittings that allow them to deal with the current state of the game. And that, in my humble opinion, takes away from the game as a whole. And 80% was an off the cuff number, but there should be a penalty and it should give folks with a high number a skill points cause to pause before hitting the "respec button".
RydogV Shadow Company HQ 205	Posted - 2013.07.18 15:32:00 - [25] - Quote dbl post
ROGU3 SOLDI3R Shadow Company HQ 3	Posted - 2013.07.18 19:14:00 - [26] - Quote What about no SP Penalty and make it 20,000 AUR? Would be a wonderful way for them to generate revenue.
GVGISDEAD Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 37	Posted - 2013.07.18 19:17:00 - [27] - Quote No need for respecs, just quit the game. /logis /respecs /resets of any type /dust514 /PS3 #PS4


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