I've posted my idea for Campaign-style PvE Missions in another thread, but this is a thread to expand upon that idea and incorporate it into my Open World Thread, and my Weapon Change threads.

The number 294 was chosen arbitrarily by my 4 year old son (also an Avid DUST 514 Player going by the self-appointed name of The Little Jackal. Makes me Warm inside, and worried that I play games too often that even my son calls himself Jackal.)

However, on with the show!

As most of us know, there is a vast PvE MMO world out there, with static missions, random events, and so on and so forth. Incorporated into my Open World idea comes this. Phased Instance Missions.

Similar to the 'grid system' used by EVE Online, when a Mission is accepted a Phase is made on the 'District Map' that the agent requires the mission done on. This could be the same District the Agent is in, or one multiple jumps away.

Only the Missioner and his Squad / Team etc. should be allowed in this Phase (though possibly with some Faction warfare-like Zones being open to all.

Onto the grit.

Missions could come as multiple forms, but for starters we'll take the bloodthirsty 'Security' type Missions. Kill this, kill that, destroy this. Etc.

For designation purposes, I'll use the mission 'Level' System from EVE Online to Designate Missions on degrees of difficulty.

Level One Missions - Solo-able. Designed to be relatively easy solo, in basic gear. (Militia / Standard) Rewards are small, SP rewards are small, and loot is generally Standard-level. With occasional Advanced Items.

Level Two Missions - Soloable in Advanced Gear, but doable in lesser gear with a partner. Still relatively straight forward missions.

Level Three Missions - Not solo-able. more complex objectives require at least 2 people to do these missions. Generally Base-level is Advanced gear.

Level Four Missions - not solo-able. More complex objectives and more threatening enemies means at least 2 in Prototype Gear should be required. More people in lesser gear is capable too.

Level Five Missions - Squad-level or higher. Multiple objectives with different requirements to be used simultaneously require high degrees on teamwork and co-operation. Meaning you require a full squad or more to do these missions.


Now onto examples of what I mean.

A Level One a mission could be as simple as 'Clear this {insert enemy} compound.' Could be pirates, Sansha, Hostile navy / Army so on and so forth. There'd be 10-20 enemies in an open compound, you kill them all, go back collect your reward.


A Level Two Mission could follow the same lines. Possibly a few more bad guys, defensive emplacements, in a closed compound that requires you to hack the gate security system to open it.


A Level Three Mission starts to require Teamwork. No longer a fixed number of hostiles, but wave spawns until certain objectives are complete. NPCs spawn out of various points, and various strengths as the mission progresses, meaning you have to cover one another as they perform tasks such as hacking and planting charges. thes missions are Objective-based. Not Kill based.


A Level Four Mission requires high levels of teamwork, with a few key scenarios that require two terminals to be hacked within a minute of each other, or something like that. Meaning that it's practically impossible to do it solo.


A Level Five Mission. Hard, tough, and with multiple simultaneous objectives that need to be done. A pair may need to secure a Gate Control Room, opening the gate for another pair to get in to disable a security system controlling a fair few automated turrets while being covered by a pair of snipers on a ridgeline. Then you have to extract a hostage, while simultaneously planting charges on a reactor, set to detonate as a distraction and to convince hostiles that the extracted target is dead.


The above are only examples, and I look forward to your opinions.

One thought I had about PVE that could tie nicely into Eve could be to Have Dust Mercs used for salvage ops on Battleship wrecks.

The Eve players would finish Missions, say against the rogue drones to start just like they do now. Once the wrecks are in place the Capsuleer puts out a contract and the Dusties pick up the contract to board the wrecks and clear the Large wrecks of hostiles. Possibly this would yield more salvage or some other materials that would benefit both eve and Dust players.
Say Some other material / data you'd sell to NPC corp's for ISK.

Every wreck would have an entry / egress point so you could bounce from one wreck to the next and clear the wrecks for the Eve Player.

For now you could have the goods delivered by the contract automatically so that an eve player wouldn't have to Wait for the dust mercs before he hands in the mission or use an eve player to transport the Dust mission generated items. Or Maybe the goods recovered by the dust mercs wouldn't be Tangible at all but instead would be data / Intel recovered from the ships computers. This info could be used for Missions for the Eve player or Dust merc missions where the clones would have to be delivered to the new mission site by the Capsuleer.

I know it looks like a mess but It would tie one of the biggest populations in eve the PVE guys in with the Dust mercs and could be a win win for both sides if you get the reward balanced correctly.

All your PVE ideas should go here

No thanks, then it would quickly get buried among other topics. It'd be best to start a new topic every time someone has a substantially different idea or opinion in regards to PVE.

I just want to know if the Jove will be put in, after I saw their ships it makes me wonder what CCP will make the infantry and vehicles look like

I would like to see an open area, Lets say corp takes a planet everyone affiliated to that corp should have access to drop into it. As it is protected so to say the only enemies you run into are A.I. Indigenous lifeforms or even Drones (for example perhaps we can have A.I. drones we can buy in EVE and send to do recon on planets in dust?) But this open area could be outskirt areas like a jungle map area, long expansive area that one could get lost in if they don't use a map. Plenty of A.I. enemies to fight (with a 75% lower Skill and ISK reward vs a real PVP matchup) that also drop salvageable items that can be used. Massive city port areas that mercs can do open trade and what not. Perhaps a planet that is under one corps influence could have a city port that welcomes all to travel into it and do open trade. Now the corp affiliated players will of course be salvaging and collecting stuff from the planet and most likely selling it on the market and if something is in abundance on a planet it makes since that people will generally place a lower value on it.

However you might have players wanting to buy low and sell high thus you give birth to merchants buying low in one planetary system only to sell it at another system that is in high demand for it? Perhaps we need to have EVE players to transport the players? Not saying to replace EVEs economy or vice versa but having a merc economy and a EVE economy that can be integrated

PVE is coming, but not any time super soon - we've been working on and adding different features and re-prioritized some pretty essential fixes to the game. What I can say is that we've done some work on it, just that it's been paused for now, and I will let you know as soon as it's cooking again! :)

This is the second best PVE idea I have read

you guys do know ccp tell us what they will do for PVE right... I mean haven't you seen the dust 514 keynote on youtube.
dust 514/eve keynote
just skip to 55 minutes and they tell us everything of what there adding in dust in the future.

CCP Rejavik
CCP Shanghia

Same company different studios, one has near perfected the player feedback process, the other is still rolling on the floor after it fell over its first baby step.

If CCP gives me PvE and an Amarrian LAV BPO. I will be playing this game a long time!