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We are 138
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:45:00 -
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I mean really, holy crap. If you call in any thing there is a literal storm of swarm missiles. I understand the vehicle hate due to the plague of LAV's and LLAV's and think that this was the natural evolution of the game, no hate here just want to know how many? Maybe I'm having some bad luck and landing in matches with these guys so just asking. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4979
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:48:00 -
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I upped my forge gun from militia to assault and have plans of moving up to my Ishokune within the month for three reasons
LAVs are stupid HAVs are fun to kill Dropships deserve to die
And then there's the secret bonus fourth reason: 1.2 tower sniping with a forge is the most rage inducing, tear collecting, win harvesting thing in the game right now. Such sweet glorious tears.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
612
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:52:00 -
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I'm at swarm prof 2. I made a logi fit that's extremely expensive to run with no sidearm. I don't even care though because I love destroying vehicles.
I still have hate left over from closed beta |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:53:00 -
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Reporting in.
Forge rather than Swarms though.
Are most of the Swarms the prototype Wiyrkomi? My impression was the majority were of the advanced model. C-whatever Specialist Swarm Launcher. 250k SP investment into an AV option on the side rather than the full 900k SP plus whatever goes in Proficiency.
You'll cut out most of the non-dedicated AV users by knocking out their supply depot. Deny them the option to switch on the fly then get back to their primary fits when they're done. |
Knight SoIaire
Rent-A-Murder Taxi
1174
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:06:00 -
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Ever since the 3x week I've noticed a lot more Proto AV users, which wouldn't be bad, if..... CCP WOULD JUST GIVE US PROTO VEHICLES ALREADY! |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:07:00 -
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We are 138 wrote:I mean really, holy crap. If you call in any thing there is a literal storm of swarm missiles. I understand the vehicle hate due to the plague of LAV's and LLAV's and think that this was the natural evolution of the game, no hate here just want to know how many? Maybe I'm having some bad luck and landing in matches with these guys so just asking. every one should have av. even if lavs were not spammed. only an idiot would go infantry only |
Harpyja
DUST University Ivy League
245
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:10:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I upped my forge gun from militia to assault and have plans of moving up to my Ishokune within the month for three reasons LAVs are stupid HAVs are fun to kill Dropships deserve to die And then there's the secret bonus fourth reason: 1.2 tower sniping with a forge is the most rage inducing, tear collecting, win harvesting thing in the game right now. Such sweet glorious tears. I'll enjoy running over you with my Charybdis. Hope you have ISK to keep funding my shiny road kills. |
syzygiet
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
9
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:13:00 -
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I have proto av grenades still takes 3 to kill a free lav for some reason. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1680
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:20:00 -
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Have a proto swarm alt. Can cook up a delicious LAV barbeque.
Funny thing is, he's just an alt. Takes so little SP to counter the close to 10m SP this guy has in tanks. |
Knight SoIaire
Rent-A-Murder Taxi
1175
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:31:00 -
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syzygiet wrote:I have proto av grenades still takes 3 to kill a free lav for some reason.
Y'know, thats funny.
It only takes me 2 Hacked Exos to take out free LAVs.
Might want to return those Nades, they're probably not working. |
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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
340
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:03:00 -
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I have an alt with forge prof 5.
Ishukone Assault Forge and Ishukone Assault SMG make a potwnt team. I could add proto AV grenades, but why waste the SP when I still have a couple thousand hacked AV from the market error. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
1394
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:13:00 -
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If we had a neat graph, I bet LAV use and AV have a direct correlation. Cause and effect. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
292
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:15:00 -
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Only ADV, but here's my 0.02 ISK.... Mordu's challenge this week will bring out the AV and snipers. I hit a redberry LAV farm on the outskirts of a few OMS matches last and knocked off at least 10 LAVs each time. Next week teams will be back to disregarding the threat of vehicular homicide. |
Arcturis Vanguard
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
45
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:18:00 -
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Full proficiency forge and prototype AV NADES. I despise murder taxis. Specifically the free ones, LLAVs are a worthy opponent. |
Nack Jicholson
DUST University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:29:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:If we had a neat graph, I bet LAV use and AV have a direct correlation. Cause and effect.
Absolutely.
It would probably match a predator-prey model as well.
A lot of easy foot soldiers to run over creates a beneficial environment for the murder taxi. Now a new predator comes in, the AV Proto soldier. This discourages the Murder Taxi drivers. As murder taxi population decreases you'll see less Proto AV over time. Which means we're back to defenseless targets to run over, Murder Taxis back up.
and so on...and so on....and so on... |
Sgt Buttscratch
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
454
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:38:00 -
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nothing wrong with going proto AV, once they fix the av nades and Add proto tanks(fix shielders) it'll all be good. |
dannyMasters11
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:46:00 -
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After the proto tank stomping in chromo, I went swarm and it paid of |
Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:48:00 -
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I spec'd into LLAVs shortly before the optional respec. The optional respec allowed me to drop lasers and pick up proto swarms. Murder taxiing was nice and dandy for a while, but I find more joy and intensity in hunting down tanks, which is a complicated process, hunting the hunters. Gotta cut off their escape route, catch them from behind, ensure your own cover and escape route, and not get ganked by some GEK. |
We are 138
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
105
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:45:00 -
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well likes all around for responding, even though I'd like to toss all you proto AV guys in a sack and beat your to death with a baseball bat. I enjoy a challange and I will see you all on the battlefield. May you all continue to cost me millions of ISK! |
Xender17
Intrepidus XI EoN.
320
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:50:00 -
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We need proto tanks and AV nades need a major isk increase... As they do more than a thousand damage. |
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Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
46
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:34:00 -
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Nack Jicholson wrote:Jin Robot wrote:If we had a neat graph, I bet LAV use and AV have a direct correlation. Cause and effect. Absolutely. It would probably match a predator-prey model as well. A lot of easy foot soldiers to run over creates a beneficial environment for the murder taxi. Now a new predator comes in, the AV Proto soldier. This discourages the Murder Taxi drivers. As murder taxi population decreases you'll see less Proto AV over time. Which means we're back to defenseless targets to run over, Murder Taxis back up. and so on...and so on....and so on...
Definitely. On a newer alt this morning, I spent points to get AV simply to counter a corp that was rail sniping and using LAVs to demolish the teams they were going against. It only took two pubstomps before buying the AVs and creating a new dropsuit fitting specifically for vehicle murder. It felt pretty good to wreck their tank(s), just knowing that one tank cost more isk than the accumulative isk I spent for every death. K/d is whatever, as long as I'm successfully costing them isk. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
708
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:35:00 -
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We are 138 wrote:I mean really, holy crap. If you call in any thing there is a literal storm of swarm missiles. I understand the vehicle hate due to the plague of LAV's and LLAV's and think that this was the natural evolution of the game, no hate here just want to know how many? Maybe I'm having some bad luck and landing in matches with these guys so just asking.
It's due to the event of destroying installations, so everyone and their mother is using AV. |
Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
47
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:02:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:We are 138 wrote:I mean really, holy crap. If you call in any thing there is a literal storm of swarm missiles. I understand the vehicle hate due to the plague of LAV's and LLAV's and think that this was the natural evolution of the game, no hate here just want to know how many? Maybe I'm having some bad luck and landing in matches with these guys so just asking. It's due to the event of destroying installations, so everyone and their mother is using AV.
When I brought out the AV and swarmers in one vehistomp match, my team started bringing out their anti-armor builds. It was a thing of beauty. |
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