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KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
League of Infamy
363
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:08:00 -
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xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Baloch - Impactl] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Baloch - Impactl] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Ishikune Sniper Rifle] King Checkmate
Game over
wow that was fun...
not... |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
League of Infamy
363
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:19:00 -
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ah i forgot the now and then Contact Nade , for those who cant win a Firefight vs a scout and start spamming these.... |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1100
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:19:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Baloch - Impactl] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Baloch - Impactl] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Ishikune Sniper Rifle] King Checkmate
Game over
wow that was fun...
not...
Some accurate data for you:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=92678 |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
League of Infamy
363
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:23:00 -
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THATS not acurate data at all. TY but no.
Im talking as a SCOUT and based on the 10 games i played yesterday.
I got killed by NO shotguns, no ARs,no FGs , much less HMG's, no scrambler rifle , etc..
In 10 games i only got killed by mass drivers, flaylocks , snipers and LAV's.
ONLY THAT.
EVERY SINGLE GAME
I even wen vs a CORP that i will not give name, where teh 6 of them were Logis, caldari or gallante, and the 6 of them were carring CORE FLAYLOCKS. The moment a side weapon starts being used as main you know something is wrong...
of course, its not the players fault, you always want to use whatever is more powerful, this is CCP's fault.
Making the Flaylock pistols have more splash damage than a Mass driver..LOOOOOOOOl. Who tested these? XD |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1100
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:25:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:THATS not acurate data at all. TY but no.
Im talking as a SCOUT and based on the 10 games i played yesterday.
I got killed by NO shotguns, no ARs,no FGs , much less HMG's, no scrambler rifle , etc..
In 10 games i only got killed by mass drivers, flaylocks , snipers and LAV's.
ONLY THAT.
EVERY SINGLE GAME
I even wen vs a CORP that i will not give name, where teh 6 of them were Logis, caldari or gallante, and the 6 of them were carring CORE FLAYLOCKS. The moment a side weapon starts being used as main you know something is wrong...
of course, its not the players fault, you always want to use whatever is more powerful, this is CCP's fault.
Making the Flaylock pistols have more splash damage than a Mass driver..LOOOOOOOOl. Who tested these? XD
Recording your own deaths just speaks to your playstyle. The killfeed, being the entirety of the kills in the match, is far more accurate, and indicative of game balance, etc.
Your own personal deaths are too anecdotal to mean anything.
Seriously, 10 kills? That means nothing.
The data in that thread, counting pub matches only, includes 850 deaths.
Regarding the FP, yeah it has higher damage, but also only about 25% of the splash area as the MD. |
Sinboto Simmons
Sver true blood
Public Disorder.
613
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:27:00 -
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Weird ARs and granades are usually what get me......
Also I seem to be having trouble jumping over lavs for some reason |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
League of Infamy
363
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:27:00 -
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uhm, i was talking about 10 games, in a ROW.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1101
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:29:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:uhm, i was talking about 10 games, in a ROW.
10 < 850 |
nukel head
Knights of No Republic
The Superpowers
52
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:42:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:THATS not acurate data at all. TY but no.
Im talking as a SCOUT and based on the 10 games i played yesterday.
I got killed by NO shotguns, no ARs,no FGs , much less HMG's, no scrambler rifle , etc..
In 10 games i only got killed by mass drivers, flaylocks , snipers and LAV's.
ONLY THAT.
EVERY SINGLE GAME
I even wen vs a CORP that i will not give name, where teh 6 of them were Logis, caldari or gallante, and the 6 of them were carring CORE FLAYLOCKS. The moment a side weapon starts being used as main you know something is wrong...
of course, its not the players fault, you always want to use whatever is more powerful, this is CCP's fault.
Making the Flaylock pistols have more splash damage than a Mass driver..LOOOOOOOOl. Who tested these? XD Recording your own deaths just speaks to your playstyle. The killfeed, being the entirety of the kills in the match, is far more accurate, and indicative of game balance, etc. Your own personal deaths are too anecdotal to mean anything. Seriously, 10 kills? That means nothing. The data in that thread, counting pub matches only, includes 850 deaths. Regarding the FP, yeah it has higher damage, but also only about 25% of the splash area as the MD.
Ah, we have hit right in Buster's bread and butter - Flaylock pistols and killfeeds. Surprised we didn't get the "flaylocks take more skill than ARs" rant too. Tell us again how all of us that get tiny missile spammed are just stupid, don't know tactics, and should HTFU. I love that story. |
Demon Buddah
The Phoenix Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:48:00 -
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That data is so wrong. Of course AR's are going to have more points than anything else, it's the most common weapons. Mass Driver and Flaylock are too powerful. You don't have to aim pretty much, just stand on a building and spam the ground. Even in a one on one fight they dominate. I know, I use the Flaylock myself. Even just a basic Flaylock I did damn good. The advanced is worse, and I can only imagine how good I'll do once I reach Core. Domination matches, all you gotta do is stand near the objective or near the enemy spawn with a Mass Driver or Flaylock and you win. It's like this in every match I play when someone is using these weapons, Domination just seems to be the worst out of them all. Now for when Checkmate said about the Sniper Rifle, yes, it's a dominating weapon, but it's a Sniper Rifle. It's supposed to be powerful and capable of long range attacks. Now the fact that we can't hit them when they are in their red zone unless we snipe them out ourselves, is bullshit. Balochs, I don't have to much of a problem, just carry AV grenades man. LOGI cars now, they deserved a spot on that list, not the Baloch. |
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nukel head
Knights of No Republic
The Superpowers
52
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:58:00 -
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Demon Buddah wrote:That data is so wrong. Of course AR's are going to have more points than anything else, it's the most common weapons. Mass Driver and Flaylock are too powerful. You don't have to aim pretty much, just stand on a building and spam the ground. Even in a one on one fight they dominate. I know, I use the Flaylock myself. Even just a basic Flaylock I did damn good. The advanced is worse, and I can only imagine how good I'll do once I reach Core. Domination matches, all you gotta do is stand near the objective or near the enemy spawn with a Mass Driver or Flaylock and you win. It's like this in every match I play when someone is using these weapons, Domination just seems to be the worst out of them all. Now for when Checkmate said about the Sniper Rifle, yes, it's a dominating weapon, but it's a Sniper Rifle. It's supposed to be powerful and capable of long range attacks. Now the fact that we can't hit them when they are in their red zone unless we snipe them out ourselves, is bullshit. Balochs, I don't have to much of a problem, just carry AV grenades man. LOGI cars now, they deserved a spot on that list, not the Baloch.
A voice of complete reason. I think you are about spot on, Demon. But just so you know, there are many on these forums that call what you just described with all the explosives spamming as "tactics". Just sayin... |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
729
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:08:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Baloch - Impactl] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Baloch - Impactl] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Ishikune Sniper Rifle] King Checkmate
Game over
wow that was fun...
not...
Dont forget Thales sniper rifle :) |
Demon Buddah
The Phoenix Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:09:00 -
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nukel head wrote:Demon Buddah wrote:That data is so wrong. Of course AR's are going to have more points than anything else, it's the most common weapons. Mass Driver and Flaylock are too powerful. You don't have to aim pretty much, just stand on a building and spam the ground. Even in a one on one fight they dominate. I know, I use the Flaylock myself. Even just a basic Flaylock I did damn good. The advanced is worse, and I can only imagine how good I'll do once I reach Core. Domination matches, all you gotta do is stand near the objective or near the enemy spawn with a Mass Driver or Flaylock and you win. It's like this in every match I play when someone is using these weapons, Domination just seems to be the worst out of them all. Now for when Checkmate said about the Sniper Rifle, yes, it's a dominating weapon, but it's a Sniper Rifle. It's supposed to be powerful and capable of long range attacks. Now the fact that we can't hit them when they are in their red zone unless we snipe them out ourselves, is bullshit. Balochs, I don't have to much of a problem, just carry AV grenades man. LOGI cars now, they deserved a spot on that list, not the Baloch. A voice of complete reason. I think you are about spot on, Demon. But just so you know, there are many on these forums that call what you just described with all the explosives spamming as "tactics". Just sayin...
And I realize that, but the fact that almost everytime you can hit someone by just shooting is dumb. I mean yes, I understand it's an explosive and it is supposed to take out armor tankers quickly. BUT I don't understand how it can take out some of the most powerful heavies I've ever seen in just a few shots. Same with shield tankers, explosive weapons are supposed to be weaker against shield but they take them out all the same. I do it all the time with my ADVANCED Flaylock. And in my scout suit I can dodge a shot at all. I'm jumping and running but they can hit me pretty much everytime, even if it's just a little bit those things manage to get me. |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
League of Infamy
365
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:16:00 -
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nukel head wrote:Demon Buddah wrote:That data is so wrong. Of course AR's are going to have more points than anything else, it's the most common weapons. Mass Driver and Flaylock are too powerful. You don't have to aim pretty much, just stand on a building and spam the ground. Even in a one on one fight they dominate. I know, I use the Flaylock myself. Even just a basic Flaylock I did damn good. The advanced is worse, and I can only imagine how good I'll do once I reach Core. Domination matches, all you gotta do is stand near the objective or near the enemy spawn with a Mass Driver or Flaylock and you win. It's like this in every match I play when someone is using these weapons, Domination just seems to be the worst out of them all. Now for when Checkmate said about the Sniper Rifle, yes, it's a dominating weapon, but it's a Sniper Rifle. It's supposed to be powerful and capable of long range attacks. Now the fact that we can't hit them when they are in their red zone unless we snipe them out ourselves, is bullshit. Balochs, I don't have to much of a problem, just carry AV grenades man. LOGI cars now, they deserved a spot on that list, not the Baloch. A voice of complete reason. I think you are about spot on, Demon. But just so you know, there are many on these forums that call what you just described with all the explosives spamming as "tactics". Just sayin...
Pretty much what demon said.
The point of my post is, (and thats why i included sniper rifles) people are abusing weapons that leave no room for counter.
I cant counter a sniper rifle, since i dont know where he is and of course i dont have the range to respond. (this is ok, just mentioning it because of the ''counter'' thing)
I cant counter a Mass Driver or a Core flaylock pistol. (The mass driver kills me in 2 shots so after the first one hits i only have time until the second one is ready to kill the enemy and the time is not enough. Somehow, the Core flaylock 1HKO's me every time)
LAV are invisible on radar , make almost no sound and if they do you never know what direction they are at.
Contact grenades, nuff said.
Of course i made this point made from MY personal experience, AR's users CANT kill me unless they rock a proto suit with 600+ total HP, Shot-gunners is a 50%-50% since i have a secondary a Shotgun too,Scramblers can rarely even hit me, the list goes on.
Plus if i can counter or AT LEAST run away i have a chance. The problem is this game is going into a direction no FPS should take. IF something is not done , soon everybody and their grandmother will be using mass driver and Side of Flay lock, and in a Logi LAV. THE ULTIMATe soldier LOLOLOL.... (Skill-less soldier that is)
The overall rant started yesterday when i was playing and left the SAME dude with 10 or less armor 4 times in a row, and every time , he just changed to his Core flaylock and 1HKO me.... Of course not much aim was needed since my CQ weapon requires me to be close for max effectiveness. So im thinking, does all my profile dampening, proto scout suit, proto SMG , complex kinetic mods,complex shield ext,PLUS my personal CQ experience (I play ''light'' CQ in every FPS i play), just get beated by a 500k SP weapon by some dude that CANT hit me with a AR even if he sees me coming at 50+ mts?
WOW CCP... |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
League of Infamy
365
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:17:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Baloch - Impactl] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Baloch - Impactl] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Ishikune Sniper Rifle] King Checkmate
Game over
wow that was fun...
not... Dont forget Thales sniper rifle :)
Well yeah, but snipers are snipers....they are a necessary evil LOL |
Willie Fistersnatch
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:18:00 -
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some people are running around gunning everyone down unopposed. people will cry about proto gear and flaylocks. I am telling every one i meet in game a little secret. sticking together and squading up are nice but how would you like a real edge?
you can be unstoppable. I will be broadcasting how over teamchat this evening but for you loyal fans of chaos try this.
upon getting a black screen press down to open map,L1 for neocom, open playerlist. back out of everything and presto optic camo. no one can see you now. run and gun with glee |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
729
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:22:00 -
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Willie Fistersnatch wrote:some people are running around gunning everyone down unopposed. people will cry about proto gear and flaylocks. I am telling every one i meet in game a little secret. sticking together and squading up are nice but how would you like a real edge?
you can be unstoppable. I will be broadcasting how over teamchat this evening but for you loyal fans of chaos try this.
upon getting a black screen press down to open map,L1 for neocom, open playerlist. back out of everything and presto optic camo. no one can see you now. run and gun with glee
Thats a glitch and you are promoting exploit. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
258
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:44:00 -
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Its One Person.
One.
Not a whole team.
Not Even a Squad.
Scouts are paper anyways, so how is that an accurate representation of the OPness of a Gun.
Then we Might as well Nerf SGs, Breach ScPs, MDs, Snipers...
We all know the Flaylock is OP, but what your Basing it off of is bad, as Scouts can be OHK'd by basically EVERY Gun, exempt ARs. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
258
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:46:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Willie Fistersnatch wrote:some people are running around gunning everyone down unopposed. people will cry about proto gear and flaylocks. I am telling every one i meet in game a little secret. sticking together and squading up are nice but how would you like a real edge?
you can be unstoppable. I will be broadcasting how over teamchat this evening but for you loyal fans of chaos try this.
upon getting a black screen press down to open map,L1 for neocom, open playerlist. back out of everything and presto optic camo. no one can see you now. run and gun with glee Thats a glitch and you are promoting exploit.
And You Shouldn't be able to Steal all the Money from a corps wallet, cause your Exploiting their Generousity, right?
Until its fixed, its open season. |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
League of Infamy
365
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Posted - 2013.07.12 00:05:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Its One Person.
One.
Not a whole team.
Not Even a Squad.
Scouts are paper anyways, so how is that an accurate representation of the OPness of a Gun.
Then we Might as well Nerf SGs, Breach ScPs, MDs, Snipers...
We all know the Flaylock is OP, but what your Basing it off of is bad, as Scouts can be OHK'd by basically EVERY Gun, exempt ARs.
I dont get 1HKO'd by a mass driver but i do with Flaylocks.
Enough proof for me. |
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Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
349
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:15:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Baloch - Impactl] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Baloch - Impactl] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Ishikune Sniper Rifle] King Checkmate
Game over
wow that was fun...
not...
If the kill feed looks like that then the person should stop reviving you. 
Core flaylocks need a little tiny tiny nerf ( Not being smashed by the nerf hammer)
Mass Drivers are fine. People are just excited to see them back
The LAV problem, Just reduce the resistance to damage on LAVs
Sniper rifles are fine. I don't see a problem there. |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
349
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:18:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Baloch - Impactl] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Core flaylock pistol] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [EXO-5 Mass Driver] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Baloch - Impactl] King Checkmate
xxxxxxxx [Ishikune Sniper Rifle] King Checkmate
Game over
wow that was fun...
not... Some accurate data for you: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=92678
Still disagree with the statement at the end of your post about the ARs being OP
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