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Carter Raynor
The Generals EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:09:00 -
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Hey remember that great thing called Score Per Minute (SPM)? How about we add that to the leaderboards and more importantly End of Match screen. It basically corrects the total SP and ISK you make.
>150 SPM = 200,000+ ISK 50 -> 150 SPM = 150,000 ISK < 50 SPM = 20,000 ISK (ISK Bonuses apply after these)
I don't know the actual way SP is made ingame, besides the WP.
Maybe do: WP + (SPM x 40) Edit: I realize some people can pass 3,000 WP sometimes in a game, so a cap would make sense, lower the x40 to x30.
1,520 WP + (185 SPM x 40) = 8,920 SP 1,000 WP + (100 SPM x 40) = 5,000 SP 650 WP + (65 SPM x 40) = 3,250 SP
Soooo let's say Cpl. Jimmy decides to MCC afk after a couple kills, 10 minute game.
2 Kills and 3 Assists. 175 wp + (17.5 SPM x 40) = 875 sp, 20,000 ISK.
This is merely an early morning idea I had, take it with a grain of salt. If something in this ballpark was made, I can see AFKing to mass sp/isk being a thing of the past. Plus with SPM, people would actually fight over objectives, camp less, and snipers who sit back getting 3 kills a match offering no help and worrying about KDR would be forced to help out. All I can see out of this is a more proactive team battle.
Thoughts / Suggestions? |
Musta Tornius
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:11:00 -
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My only thoughts are that this thread is in the wrong forum section, sorry! :p |
Carter Raynor
The Generals EoN.
72
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:11:00 -
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I'd rather have more player feedback, I'll move it eventually |
Manly Vehicle Operator
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:12:00 -
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Fixing the symptom, not the problem. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
276
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:14:00 -
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Bah! to complex ... just kill them all ...much easy. |
Carter Raynor
The Generals EoN.
72
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:14:00 -
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There would be no reason to AFK with these up, it would fix the problem. Afk start of match 0 WP (0 SPM x 40) = 0 SP |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
276
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:19:00 -
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Carter Raynor wrote:There would be no reason to AFK with these up, it would fix the problem. Afk start of match 0 WP (0 SPM x 40) = 0 SP
I like you idea..it just will be alot more fun if dropsuits comes with a self-destruct device.. 2 minutes AFK and you dropsuit blows up, maybe even add a count down .... 3,2,1 BooM !! |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
698
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:21:00 -
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Carter Raynor wrote:Hey remember that great thing called Score Per Minute (SPM)? How about we add that to the leaderboards and more importantly End of Match screen. It basically corrects the total SP and ISK you make.
>150 SPM = 200,000+ ISK 50 -> 150 SPM = 150,000 ISK < 50 SPM = 20,000 ISK (ISK Bonuses apply after these)
I don't know the actual way SP is made ingame, besides the WP.
Maybe do: WP + (SPM x 40) Edit: I realize some people can pass 3,000 WP sometimes in a game, so a cap would make sense, lower the x40 to x30.
1,520 WP + (185 SPM x 40) = 8,920 SP 1,000 WP + (100 SPM x 40) = 5,000 SP 650 WP + (65 SPM x 40) = 3,250 SP
Soooo let's say Cpl. Jimmy decides to MCC afk after a couple kills, 10 minute game.
2 Kills and 3 Assists. 150 wp + (15 SPM x 40) = 750 sp, 20,000 ISK.
This is merely an early morning idea I had, take it with a grain of salt. If something in this ballpark was made, I can see AFKing to mass sp/isk being a thing of the past. Plus with SPM, people would actually fight over objectives, camp less, and snipers who sit back getting 3 kills a match offering no help and worrying about KDR would be forced to help out. All I can see out of this is a more proactive team battle.
Thoughts / Suggestions?
SP ingame is acquired by time spent in game, and a tiny amount from actually playing. I think SP should be calculated x10 for every WP earned, and after 1K warpoints the multiplier reduces to x2. So a person who acquires 2K WP will actually be awarded 12K SP.
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Carter Raynor
The Generals EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:23:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:
SP ingame is acquired by time spent in game, and a tiny amount from actually playing. I think SP should be calculated x10 for every WP earned, and after 1K warpoints the multiplier reduces to x2. So a person who acquires 2K WP will actually be awarded 12K SP.
Only reason that would need to be tweaked is CCP prob wants the SP to be equal in gain to what we have now, I tried to match that in mine and eliminate AFKers and campers |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
698
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:28:00 -
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Carter Raynor wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:
SP ingame is acquired by time spent in game, and a tiny amount from actually playing. I think SP should be calculated x10 for every WP earned, and after 1K warpoints the multiplier reduces to x2. So a person who acquires 2K WP will actually be awarded 12K SP.
Only reason that would need to be tweaked is CCP prob wants the SP to be equal in gain to what we have now, I tried to match that in mine and eliminate AFKers and campers
Yeah but SP gains are so low, specially with some skills requiring 1M SP it takes 1 month + just to level up 1 skill. So I just think after a fix to MCC afking that SP gains should slightly be increased and uncapped.
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Abby Invo
muse.and.fury
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:33:00 -
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Carter Raynor wrote:Hey remember that great thing called Score Per Minute (SPM)? How about we add that to the leaderboards and more importantly End of Match screen. It basically corrects the total SP and ISK you make.
>150 SPM = 200,000+ ISK 50 -> 150 SPM = 150,000 ISK < 50 SPM = 20,000 ISK (ISK Bonuses apply after these)
I don't know the actual way SP is made ingame, besides the WP.
Maybe do: WP + (SPM x 40) Edit: I realize some people can pass 3,000 WP sometimes in a game, so a cap would make sense, lower the x40 to x30.
1,520 WP + (185 SPM x 40) = 8,920 SP 1,000 WP + (100 SPM x 40) = 5,000 SP 650 WP + (65 SPM x 40) = 3,250 SP
Soooo let's say Cpl. Jimmy decides to MCC afk after a couple kills, 10 minute game.
2 Kills and 3 Assists. 175 wp + (17.5 SPM x 40) = 875 sp, 20,000 ISK.
This is merely an early morning idea I had, take it with a grain of salt. If something in this ballpark was made, I can see AFKing to mass sp/isk being a thing of the past. Plus with SPM, people would actually fight over objectives, camp less, and snipers who sit back getting 3 kills a match offering no help and worrying about KDR would be forced to help out. All I can see out of this is a more proactive team battle.
Thoughts / Suggestions? This could end up punishing lesser players, it also only treats a symptom of the real problem. The real problem is the lack of incentive to try. Toss in loot in the form of a percent chance for a module to drop off each kill and it'd be good to go. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
585
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:37:00 -
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you can't forget the new guys, and the guys who frequently go 100 or less wp with several deaths |
Carter Raynor
The Generals EoN.
73
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:42:00 -
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the above is true, maybe lessen the extent of what I wrote and add in time in game as well? I know plenty of guys who aren't great at getting kills, but with this they would focus on grabbing installations and helping out teammates more.
Lastly, even if it didn't make it's way into the game, which it won't, I would love SPM to be on leaderboards. You would be able to see the difference between campers, average players, and elite player SPM. |
Amorale Lyadstafer
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2013.07.10 15:01:00 -
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Buddy, you don't fix what isn't broken. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
586
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Posted - 2013.07.10 15:02:00 -
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not a bad idea for leader board stat, i'd stand behind that. If the leaderboards worked right. one day, one day. why they did not get reset at launch and perform right, I have no idea |
Knightshade Belladonna
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
586
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Posted - 2013.07.10 15:03:00 -
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Amorale Lyadstafer wrote:Buddy, you don't fix what isn't broken.
hah, not broken. Might not be broke, but it is not having a desired effect |
Sinboto Simmons
Sver true blood Public Disorder.
598
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Posted - 2013.07.10 15:15:00 -
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I always thought it should spawn you falling through lol
unfortunately this would cause alot of : HOLYCRAPISTHATTHEGRO---SPLAT |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. League of Infamy
639
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Posted - 2013.07.10 15:16:00 -
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This is dumb...
Easiest way.....
5 SP per WP and 1 SP per second (currently its 5 SP per second and 1 SP per WP)
This completely fixes all AFKing and teaches new player to go for more WP to get better SP rewards (current system doesnt matter because you dont gain a significant amount of SP for what you do) |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
1375
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Posted - 2013.07.10 15:19:00 -
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Op is not the solution, penalizing new players as well as afkers. Newbies might have trouble "scoring" even thought they are trying. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
1376
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Posted - 2013.07.10 15:57:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:This is dumb...
Easiest way.....
5 SP per WP and 1 SP per second (currently its 5 SP per second and 1 SP per WP)
This completely fixes all AFKing and teaches new player to go for more WP to get better SP rewards (current system doesnt matter because you dont gain a significant amount of SP for what you do) You want to go back to farming WPs? I remember when it was they way you want it, it sucked. |
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