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Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
303
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:01:00 -
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I want to play a heavy. I've been waiting for CCP to get their **** together and release the remaining racial suits in any possible form and I'm at the end of my rope and losing interest in this game.
Should I gimp myself by running in a militia suit in the hope that one day CCP gets around to releasing the missing suits but will be too pig headed to offer a respec?
Or should I invest in the Amarr heavy tree on the miniscule hope that someone at CCP actually knows what they're doing and realizes they need to offer a respec along with the release? |
Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
78
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:06:00 -
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I'd choose the "gimp yourself" option. Better safe than sorry. And when It comes to being sorry, there is almost nothing worse (in-game) than having large chunks of SP wasted.
wasted SP=wasted real-life time |
Kaz Kyzer
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:09:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:
wasted SP=wasted real-life time
^ Amen to that |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones
General Tso's Alliance
218
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:10:00 -
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So why aren't playing heavy again? Us fatties putting work out there with no qualms. I guess we'll see when you HTFU. And you're Caldari for christ sakes. Have some divinity and pride. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
710
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:17:00 -
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Gimp yourself and run militia suits.
Suits are the biggest SP sink for most players. Having that much spent on little more than weaponry will give you an epic HMG. You'll make incredible profit too. |
Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
309
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:18:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:So why aren't playing heavy again? Us fatties putting work out there with no qualms. I guess we'll see when you HTFU. And you're Caldari for christ sakes. Have some divinity and pride.
Because the one thing you never see is a heavy complaining about their class.
This is opposite day right?
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Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training
EoN.
1725
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:18:00 -
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I don't even main as a heavy and I'm tired of waiting for heavy suits, it is long overdue especially since that dev post asking if we would be OK with using the Amarr model as a temporary sit-in with the stats of the Gallente, Minmatar, and Caldari. |
Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
312
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:22:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:I don't even main as a heavy and I'm tired of waiting for heavy suits, it is long overdue especially since that dev post asking if we would be OK with using the Amarr model as a temporary sit-in with the stats of the Gallente, Minmatar, and Caldari.
The kick in the balls is the total head **** they played with the Commando suit.
"Look we're releasing a new heavy suit using the default Amarr model like we promised! What race is it? Uhh... Amarr?" |
Omen Astrul
Red STar.
EoN.
77
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:35:00 -
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gimp yourself so i can kill you more. |
Shadowswipe
WarRavens
League of Infamy
148
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:41:00 -
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Mike Poole wrote:I want to play a heavy. I've been waiting for CCP to get their **** together and release the remaining racial suits in any possible form and I'm at the end of my rope and losing interest in this game.
Should I gimp myself by running in a militia suit in the hope that one day CCP gets around to releasing the missing suits but will be too pig headed to offer a respec?
Or should I invest in the Amarr heavy tree on the miniscule hope that someone at CCP actually knows what they're doing and realizes they need to offer a respec along with the release?
Are all your passive suit skills at lvl 5? If not, work on those. They help for all suits across the board. |
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Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
598
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:48:00 -
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Kaz Kyzer wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:
wasted SP=wasted real-life time
^ Amen to that No SP is ever wasted. Wether you use it or not you still get the flexibility of having these skills should you need them.
With that said: OP, Choose the role available that most appeals to you and get it just to AVD level. The skillcost is a fraction of that of a full proto profiency fit and the difference is not that significant. Spend just a little more for tank mods and all you miss out on is a damage boost in the percentiles. Also, try and use a class that shares many modules with your preffered heavy variant, train those higher and gimp only those which you won't need later. The Amarr heavy is particulary good in that regard as it can work with shields and armor and already uses heavy weaponry.
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oso tiburon
The Generals
EoN.
129
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:49:00 -
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put your sp into ammar .... wait for it ..... then when they do release the new ones just try to have a reserve of 300 to 400k sp...i my self will love the ideal of having my option to go bac k to my old hybrid suit or my gallente tank  |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4888
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:50:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:wasted SP=wasted real-life time
Not sure about you, but I would save sooooo much real-life time if CCP decided to insult me as a paying customer by locking me out of material that should have been in the release of their game.
I will hound GMs and Support relentlessly, flood the forums with QQ, then quit.
Many will rejoice, but I'll just be one more in a steady trend at that point.
CCP, do the right thing; don't spit in your customers faces. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1640
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:50:00 -
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You don't need to spec fully into Amarr heavies to be good at it. Advanced works pretty well and doesn't take near as much SP as proto. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5908
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:54:00 -
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You could save up SP for future things, work on core, work on supplemental skills work on alternative suits ect ect.
I mean what are you going to do when you capp out all for racial heavy suits in the future? |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4888
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:56:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I mean what are you going to do when you capp out all four racial heavy suits in the future?
Why on earth would I want to cap any Heavy other than a Gallente Heavy?
(Oh yea, because I'm forced to, I mean, my decisions matter) |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
171
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:59:00 -
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i was pretty excited when they said "minmatar week, suits and guns"
and then it was neo **** for the carebears. |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
299
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Posted - 2013.07.09 22:04:00 -
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lol us heavies have gone through chromosome build, 1.1, 1.2 and still nothing new for the heavies. how much you want to bet that once 1.3 comes there wont be anything for us because CCP just frankly doesnt give a S-H-I-T about what we think. frankly i think CCP doesnt even want to give us our racial suits, you ask them when we will get new stuff, and instead of a definitive answer they give us the same suit minus the heavy weapon slot and half the EHP. B-I-T-C-H please if i wanted a heavy with less EHP i'd have gone logi >__> |
dday3six
Intrepidus XI
68
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Posted - 2013.07.09 22:13:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You could save up SP for future things, work on core, work on supplemental skills work on alternative suits ect ect.
I mean what are you going to do when you capp out all for racial heavy suits in the future?
That seems like a real BS excuse. |
Shadowswipe
WarRavens
League of Infamy
150
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Posted - 2013.07.09 22:17:00 -
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dday3six wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You could save up SP for future things, work on core, work on supplemental skills work on alternative suits ect ect.
I mean what are you going to do when you capp out all for racial heavy suits in the future? That seems like a real BS excuse.
It isn't an excuse, is it something to work on while you wait. To give you a goal. It sucks not all racial basic suits are in. But work with what you got. Getting core skills up is working with what you got.
The dev blog today said they release in a couple months. So maybe they will have them in by then. Here is hoping. |
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
181
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Posted - 2013.07.09 22:20:00 -
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dday3six wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You could save up SP for future things, work on core, work on supplemental skills work on alternative suits ect ect.
I mean what are you going to do when you capp out all for racial heavy suits in the future? That seems like a real BS excuse.
can i get some tears up in here? |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training
EoN.
1749
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Posted - 2013.07.09 22:34:00 -
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low genius wrote:dday3six wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You could save up SP for future things, work on core, work on supplemental skills work on alternative suits ect ect.
I mean what are you going to do when you capp out all for racial heavy suits in the future? That seems like a real BS excuse. can i get some tears up in here?
Just to be clear, are you really implying that you are OK with the massive delay on these racial variants? |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1096
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Posted - 2013.07.09 22:37:00 -
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Mike Poole wrote:I want to play a heavy. I've been waiting for CCP to get their **** together and release the remaining racial suits in any possible form and I'm at the end of my rope and losing interest in this game.
Should I gimp myself by running in a militia suit in the hope that one day CCP gets around to releasing the missing suits but will be too pig headed to offer a respec?
Or should I invest in the Amarr heavy tree on the miniscule hope that someone at CCP actually knows what they're doing and realizes they need to offer a respec along with the release?
If you are looing interest in the game, and want to try to rekindle it, stop waiting and spec into the Amarr. If you still lose interest, no loss. If it sparks your interest again, it was worth not waiting. Simple fix. |
The Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1
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Posted - 2013.07.09 22:46:00 -
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I will personally petition for SP spent on Dropsuit Command to be refunded when the other races are released.
I don't expect it to work, but...
In the meantime I'll just run the Amarr's (soft) Heavy basics and learn the role better. |
RA Drahcir
Psygod9
RISE of LEGION
18
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Posted - 2013.07.09 22:52:00 -
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I want to be a fat gallente! wwaaaaahhhh |
dday3six
Intrepidus XI
EoN.
71
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:08:00 -
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low genius wrote:dday3six wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You could save up SP for future things, work on core, work on supplemental skills work on alternative suits ect ect.
I mean what are you going to do when you capp out all for racial heavy suits in the future? That seems like a real BS excuse. can i get some tears up in here?
I guess the jokes on you. I don't even plan to spec into Heavy for a long, long time. However this doesn't change the fact that Heavies don't even get a part of the stick, let alone the short end. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
393
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:18:00 -
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Convert to Amarr!
Joking aside, it is BS that they are taking so long to release the other racial suits. That said, on the matter of "wasted SP = wasted time" argument, are you not also wasting time playing as something you don't enjoy? Personally if I were in your situation I would level up Amarr Heavy Frame to 3 and use the advanced basic suit, that's only about a weeks worth of SP if I recall so not much of a loss. |
Laurent Cazaderon
What The French
CRONOS.
1793
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:19:00 -
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We're trying to get informations on those suits but so far, nothing. |
negative49er
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
64
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:23:00 -
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It just the amarr heavy is getting old I mean it getting OLD |
Kiro Justice
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
355
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:28:00 -
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Mike Poole wrote:I want to play a heavy. I've been waiting for CCP to get their **** together and release the remaining racial suits in any possible form and I'm at the end of my rope and losing interest in this game.
Should I gimp myself by running in a militia suit in the hope that one day CCP gets around to releasing the missing suits but will be too pig headed to offer a respec?
Or should I invest in the Amarr heavy tree on the miniscule hope that someone at CCP actually knows what they're doing and realizes they need to offer a respec along with the release?
Jeez, you're still here! It's been forever since I've seen your name! Don't worry, if they're taking a long time, they're making it good. If you have a lot of SP, put it into the Amarr heavy and then you can build up more SP to get to the Cal/Gal/Min/ Heavies when they hit. |
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
220
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:38:00 -
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Sorry man.... this does kind of suck. I guess the best thing to do is to keep plugging away on those core skills.
Alternatively, instead of even going to ADV Amarr heavy frame, you could just put one point into the basic heavy frame to use the STD suit. That's only what, 24k SP? That's passive SP for a day... almost not even a loss and it would be better than running a MLT suit (although, maybe not a LOT better).
Also, working on an alternate role may be viable - battlefield versatility is always a bonus. However, if you are trying to 'save' SP for when the racial heavy frames are released, this could be a distraction and siphon off your unallocated SP funds.
I'm in a similar situation with the scout suits, although i have at least 2 options on the table already and am only waiting for 2 more. But waiting on a dropsuit (and for me, also weapon skills) is getting old, real old, so I feel your pain.
I mean, CORE skills are great but after a while you get bored b/c you are still getting a reasonable beat down with your MLT fits & core skills when going up against adv/proto suits and weapons.....
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KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
268
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:59:00 -
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Mike Poole wrote:I want to play a heavy. I've been waiting for CCP to get their **** together and release the remaining racial suits in any possible form and I'm at the end of my rope and losing interest in this game.
Should I gimp myself by running in a militia suit in the hope that one day CCP gets around to releasing the missing suits but will be too pig headed to offer a respec?
Or should I invest in the Amarr heavy tree on the miniscule hope that someone at CCP actually knows what they're doing and realizes they need to offer a respec along with the release?
Not saying I don't want racial variants as much as anybody else but for real breh the basic frame heavy suits aren't THAT bad. And you will have to spec them out eventually to access racial variants anyway. You don't HAVE to run militia or skinweave suits. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
395
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:15:00 -
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KripnawtiQ Prime wrote:Not saying I don't want racial variants as much as anybody else but for real breh the basic frame heavy suits aren't THAT bad. And you will have to spec them out eventually to access racial variants anyway. You don't HAVE to run militia or skinweave suits.
What are you talking about? You don't specialize in heavy to get to racial heavies, you specialize in racial heavies to get to specialized racial heavies. |
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