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Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:44:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1033684#post1033684
I think adding friendly fire to all game modes can help alot with many of the current issues facing us today. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
905
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:47:00 -
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No |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:49:00 -
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You must be an avid MD/Flaylock spammer/Murder taxi driver/Supply Depot grenade launcher hugger/overall unskilled idiot.
I mean, come on, you'd have to be to ignore the obvious benefits this would bring. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
971
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:51:00 -
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I don't think you should question someone else's intelligence if you think the mass driver is an abused weapon. |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
122
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:53:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:I don't think you should question someone else's intelligence if you think the mass driver is an abused weapon. The MD IS an abused weapon. It takes no skill whatsoever to panic spam all over the place. You must be an avid MD spammer as well.
There is no reason to not implement this broad fix on this game's issues. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
905
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:54:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:You must be an avid MD/Flaylock spammer/Murder taxi driver/Supply Depot grenade launcher hugger/overall unskilled idiot. I mean, come on, you'd have to be to ignore the obvious benefits this would bring.
Dont use any of those things actually and even if I did it wouldnt make me as bad as the guy who was seriously asking if RPing a pedophile was ok Back on topic you must be an idiot to ignore the massive downsides it would bring completely negating any perceived positives you might come up with FF works in PC because the players are a bit more serious and striving towards a common goal so random griefing is less common and when it happens its a sign of a saboteur
Now if you said adding modes that incorporate FF and letting players choose whether they want to opt into it or not then you would have had a half decent suggestion over "herp derp FF is da bestest fix" The only thing that will stop people from AFKing or hiding in the redline is getting rid of it completely and even then I wouldnt be surprised if some people still tried to hide in out of the way spots to avoid playing |
Loki Keller
Corvus Conspiracy
22
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:54:00 -
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This is the single worst idea I've heard today. |
Seraph Prime
The.Primes
8
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:56:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Dont use any of those things actually and even if I did it wouldnt make me as bad as the guy who was seriously asking if RPing a pedophile was ok Back on topic you must be an idiot to ignore the massive downsides it would bring completely negating any perceived positives you might come up with FF works in PC because the players are a bit more serious and striving towards a common goal so random griefing is less common and when it happens its a sign of a saboteur
Now if you said adding modes that incorporate FF and letting players choose whether they want to opt into it or not then you would have had a half decent suggestion over "herp derp FF is da bestest fix" The only thing that will stop people from AFKing or hiding in the redline is getting rid of it completely and even then I wouldnt be surprised if some people still tried to hide in out of the way spots to avoid playing
That would make AFK camper hunting actually enjoyable. That could be a game mode altogether. Gigatron Prime made some excellent points though that I think outweigh any supposed negatives. |
Seraph Prime
The.Primes
8
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:57:00 -
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Loki Keller wrote:This is the single worst idea I've heard today. You must be an avid MD/Flaylock spammer/Murder taxi driver/Supply Depot grenade launcher hugger/overall unskilled idiot.
I mean, come on, you'd have to be to ignore the obvious benefits this would bring. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
295
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:57:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote: There is no reason to not implement this broad fix on this game's issues.
How about the fact that PSN accounts are free, as well as Dust characters. One can easily create a throwaway character simply to troll and team kill without fearing any real consequences. |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
905
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:59:00 -
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Seraph Prime wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Dont use any of those things actually and even if I did it wouldnt make me as bad as the guy who was seriously asking if RPing a pedophile was ok Back on topic you must be an idiot to ignore the massive downsides it would bring completely negating any perceived positives you might come up with FF works in PC because the players are a bit more serious and striving towards a common goal so random griefing is less common and when it happens its a sign of a saboteur
Now if you said adding modes that incorporate FF and letting players choose whether they want to opt into it or not then you would have had a half decent suggestion over "herp derp FF is da bestest fix" The only thing that will stop people from AFKing or hiding in the redline is getting rid of it completely and even then I wouldnt be surprised if some people still tried to hide in out of the way spots to avoid playing That would make AFK camper hunting actually enjoyable. That could be a game mode altogether. Gigatron Prime made some excellent points though that I think outweigh any supposed negatives.
You seriously switched characters to try and white knight yourself? |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
122
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:59:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote: There is no reason to not implement this broad fix on this game's issues.
How about the fact that PSN accounts are free, as well as Dust characters. One can easily create a throwaway character simply to troll and team kill without fearing any real consequences. One of my suggestions was an auto kick after a certain amount of team kills. We could even go so far as to add a penalty timer before you can reque. |
Seraph Prime
The.Primes
8
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:01:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:You seriously switched characters to try and white knight yourself? I don't know what you mean. I am simply agreeing with Gigatron Prime's very intelligent and wonderfully presented idea on a fix for the many broken things in this game. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
971
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:01:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:I don't think you should question someone else's intelligence if you think the mass driver is an abused weapon. The MD IS an abused weapon. It takes no skill whatsoever to panic spam all over the place. You must be an avid MD spammer as well. There is no reason to not implement this broad fix on this game's issues. That is grade A bullshit, I've only seen maybe 4 people use mass drivers the past 3 or so months. Why don't you make an alt to go try it? I did and saw that it was ******, but I guess you're too dim to actually TRY it before bitching. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
905
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:02:00 -
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Seraph Prime wrote:Delta 749 wrote:You seriously switched characters to try and white knight yourself? I don't know what you mean. I am simply agreeing with Gigatron Prime's very intelligent and wonderfully presented idea on a fix for the many broken things in this game.
Ok that confirms it |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
295
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:03:00 -
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Seraph Prime wrote:Delta 749 wrote:You seriously switched characters to try and white knight yourself? I don't know what you mean. I am simply agreeing with Gigatron Prime's very intelligent and wonderfully presented idea on a fix for the many broken things in this game. Yeah, ok. Sure. |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
122
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:04:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:I don't think you should question someone else's intelligence if you think the mass driver is an abused weapon. The MD IS an abused weapon. It takes no skill whatsoever to panic spam all over the place. You must be an avid MD spammer as well. There is no reason to not implement this broad fix on this game's issues. That is grade A bullshit, I've only seen maybe 4 people use mass drivers the past 3 or so months. Why don't you make an alt to go try it? I did and saw that it was ******, but I guess you're too dim to actually TRY it before bitching. I doubt you would notice with your all proto gear logi assault pub stomping noobs. I bet that proto MD you spam with also disagrees with my idea.
The fact there is so much opposition to such an obvious fix proves that this community is very bad; that they themselves are the toxic players that need to use these unskilled tactics. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
905
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:04:00 -
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Dude Jennifer Lawrence, I would break it off if you know what I mean |
Seraph Prime
The.Primes
8
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:06:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:I don't think you should question someone else's intelligence if you think the mass driver is an abused weapon. The MD IS an abused weapon. It takes no skill whatsoever to panic spam all over the place. You must be an avid MD spammer as well. There is no reason to not implement this broad fix on this game's issues. That is grade A bullshit, I've only seen maybe 4 people use mass drivers the past 3 or so months. Why don't you make an alt to go try it? I did and saw that it was ******, but I guess you're too dim to actually TRY it before bitching. I doubt you would notice with your all proto gear logi assault pub stomping noobs. I bet that proto MD you spam with also disagrees with my idea. The fact there is so much opposition to such an obvious fix proves that this community is very bad; that they themselves are the toxic players that need to use these unskilled tactics. Wonderfully said good sir. You, Gigatron Prime, speak to the vast silent majority that have no voice in this sea of trolls whose shouts are so deafening as to drown out all reasoning. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
971
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:09:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:I don't think you should question someone else's intelligence if you think the mass driver is an abused weapon. The MD IS an abused weapon. It takes no skill whatsoever to panic spam all over the place. You must be an avid MD spammer as well. There is no reason to not implement this broad fix on this game's issues. That is grade A bullshit, I've only seen maybe 4 people use mass drivers the past 3 or so months. Why don't you make an alt to go try it? I did and saw that it was ******, but I guess you're too dim to actually TRY it before bitching. I doubt you would notice with your all proto gear logi assault pub stomping noobs. I bet that proto MD you spam with also disagrees with my idea. The fact there is so much opposition to such an obvious fix proves that this community is very bad; that they themselves are the toxic players that need to use these unskilled tactics. Read this clearly, I neither have any sp in mass driver's nor logi suits beyond standard. It's people like you using exaggerated examples that are ruining this community. I disagree with you for one reason only, you're ignorant. |
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
295
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:09:00 -
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I like how you are going to simply ignore my argument of free accounts to troll without consequence. |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
123
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:11:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:I don't think you should question someone else's intelligence if you think the mass driver is an abused weapon. The MD IS an abused weapon. It takes no skill whatsoever to panic spam all over the place. You must be an avid MD spammer as well. There is no reason to not implement this broad fix on this game's issues. That is grade A bullshit, I've only seen maybe 4 people use mass drivers the past 3 or so months. Why don't you make an alt to go try it? I did and saw that it was ******, but I guess you're too dim to actually TRY it before bitching. I doubt you would notice with your all proto gear logi assault pub stomping noobs. I bet that proto MD you spam with also disagrees with my idea. The fact there is so much opposition to such an obvious fix proves that this community is very bad; that they themselves are the toxic players that need to use these unskilled tactics. Read this clearly, I neither have any sp in mass driver's nor logi suits beyond standard. It's people like you using exaggerated examples that are ruining this community. I disagree with you for one reason only, you're ignorant. If your dislike of me is the only reason and opposition you can present to this idea, than it is you sir and all others like you that refuse to see reason, that are ignorant. Not I. |
Seraph Prime
The.Primes
8
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:12:00 -
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Gigatron Primeote wrote:If your dislike of me is the only reason and opposition you can present to this idea, than it is you sir and all others like you that refuse to see reason, that are ignorant. Not I. Wonderfully put. I believe your idea Gigatron Prime can save this game. |
Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
120
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:19:00 -
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No no no, Gigatron.
Adding friendly fire would turn this game into a that would actually require more patience, tactics, and skill!
Now we just can't have that. We NEED fast careless explosionfest mania to keep the arcade style fans from leaving the game!
Sarcasm aside. I support 25% friendly damage to keep players from firing carelessly and to give other players a chance to survive. I also support punishment for team killers. |
Loki Keller
Corvus Conspiracy
22
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:21:00 -
[25] - Quote
Ok, ok, let's stop feeding the troll. |
Celestias Prime
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:23:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote:No no no, Gigatron.
Adding friendly fire would turn this game into a that would actually require more patience, tactics, and skill!
Now we just can't have that. We NEED fast careless explosionfest mania to keep the arcade style fans from leaving the game!
Sarcasm aside. I support 25% friendly damage to keep players from firing carelessly and to give other players a chance to survive. I also support punishment for team killers. Finally a fellow supporter that has seen reason. I am with Gigatron all the way. His brilliant idea can save this game. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
973
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:23:00 -
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You misunderstood me, which looks like a regular occurrence for someone off your "intellect". I dislike you because of the way you present your idea, calling the mass driver op is about as valid as calling the shotgun op, it's an extremely niche weapon that 9 times out of 10, the user will be regularly put at a disadvantage. Now, it not only has a ludicrous amount of drop, it also deals with low velocity and useless sights. It doesn't even have the rof to spam, unless you're right on top of your target, which means you risk killing yourself. |
Celestias Prime
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:27:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:You misunderstood me, which looks like a regular occurrence for someone off your "intellect". I dislike you because of the way you present your idea, calling the mass driver op is about as valid as calling the shotgun op, it's an extremely niche weapon that 9 times out of 10, the user will be regularly put at a disadvantage. Now, it not only has a ludicrous amount of drop, it also deals with low velocity and useless sights. It doesn't even have the rof to spam, unless you're right on top of your target, which means you risk killing yourself. The OP never claimed the MD was overpowered. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
973
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:33:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote: You must be an avid MD/Flaylock spammer/Murder taxi driver/Supply Depot grenade launcher hugger/overall unskilled idiot.
I mean, come on, you'd have to be to ignore the obvious benefits this would bring.
This is him referring to it being unbalanced, and in a way that suggests it's too powerful. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
907
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:34:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote: You must be an avid MD/Flaylock spammer/Murder taxi driver/Supply Depot grenade launcher hugger/overall unskilled idiot.
I mean, come on, you'd have to be to ignore the obvious benefits this would bring.
This is him referring to it being unbalanced, and in a way that suggests it's too powerful.
Stop feeding the troll, hes posting with his alts to support his ass backwards ideas |
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Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
123
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:34:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote: You must be an avid MD/Flaylock spammer/Murder taxi driver/Supply Depot grenade launcher hugger/overall unskilled idiot.
I mean, come on, you'd have to be to ignore the obvious benefits this would bring.
This is him referring to it being unbalanced, and in a way that suggests it's too powerful. Not at all. If you are still at a loss, I'll make it clear...
I don't think the MD is OP.
However, MD spam is an annoying, unskilled nuisance. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
122
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:36:00 -
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sup delta are u in scouts united by any chance? |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
973
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:37:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote: You must be an avid MD/Flaylock spammer/Murder taxi driver/Supply Depot grenade launcher hugger/overall unskilled idiot.
I mean, come on, you'd have to be to ignore the obvious benefits this would bring.
This is him referring to it being unbalanced, and in a way that suggests it's too powerful. Stop feeding the troll, hes posting with his alts to support his ass backwards ideas Agreed, but I don't have much better to do so I decided to use my time to humor what I hope is a troll. And if it isn't a troll thread, this guy is an absolute idiot. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
907
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:38:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:sup delta are u in scouts united by any chance?
Nah, Im one of those mean old medium players |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
973
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:40:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote: You must be an avid MD/Flaylock spammer/Murder taxi driver/Supply Depot grenade launcher hugger/overall unskilled idiot.
I mean, come on, you'd have to be to ignore the obvious benefits this would bring.
This is him referring to it being unbalanced, and in a way that suggests it's too powerful. Not at all. If you are still at a loss, I'll make it clear... I don't think the MD is OP. However, MD spam is an annoying, unskilled nuisance. Please show me how "spamming" a weapon is any different than using it normally? How is using an Ar at a supply depot less of an issue when it has more range, more accuracy, better sights, and no ballistic drawbacks? |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
126
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:42:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote: You must be an avid MD/Flaylock spammer/Murder taxi driver/Supply Depot grenade launcher hugger/overall unskilled idiot.
I mean, come on, you'd have to be to ignore the obvious benefits this would bring.
This is him referring to it being unbalanced, and in a way that suggests it's too powerful. Not at all. If you are still at a loss, I'll make it clear... I don't think the MD is OP. However, MD spam is an annoying, unskilled nuisance. Please show me how "spamming" a weapon is any different than using it normally? How is using an Ar at a supply depot less of an issue when it has more range, more accuracy, better sights, and no ballistic drawbacks? AR is broken too, but I digress.
CCP, implement friendly fire now. The fact that you fight this so vigorously proves me right because you are one such unskilled, toxic player that utilizes these very unsavory methods. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
618
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:42:00 -
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Friendly fire in pub matches would kill this game overnight.
If CCP wanted to commit videogame suicide, they would do this.
So yeah, no. |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
126
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:44:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Friendly fire in pub matches would kill this game overnight.
If CCP wanted to commit videogame suicide, they would do this.
So yeah, no. What reasoning have you to support this outlandish claim?
You must be an MD user too. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
973
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:45:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote: You must be an avid MD/Flaylock spammer/Murder taxi driver/Supply Depot grenade launcher hugger/overall unskilled idiot.
I mean, come on, you'd have to be to ignore the obvious benefits this would bring.
This is him referring to it being unbalanced, and in a way that suggests it's too powerful. Not at all. If you are still at a loss, I'll make it clear... I don't think the MD is OP. However, MD spam is an annoying, unskilled nuisance. Please show me how "spamming" a weapon is any different than using it normally? How is using an Ar at a supply depot less of an issue when it has more range, more accuracy, better sights, and no ballistic drawbacks? AR is broken too, but I digress. CCP, implement friendly fire now. The fact that you fight this so vigorously proves me right because you are one such unskilled, toxic player that utilizes these very unsavory methods. I fight your ideas because you are an idiot repeating an idea that's been asked for countless times, it's not hard to use the search button. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
973
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:46:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Friendly fire in pub matches would kill this game overnight.
If CCP wanted to commit videogame suicide, they would do this.
So yeah, no. What reasoning have you to support this outlandish claim? You must be an MD user too. Wow your reasoning method makes sense. |
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Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
126
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:50:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:I fight your ideas because you are an idiot repeating an idea that's been asked for countless times, it's not hard to use the search button. Again, your only reasoning you present to me for objecting to this idea is your disdain for me which shows your ignorance. You have no say in this matter anymore. Your words mean nothing.
Troll. |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
126
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:51:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Friendly fire in pub matches would kill this game overnight.
If CCP wanted to commit videogame suicide, they would do this.
So yeah, no. What reasoning have you to support this outlandish claim? You must be an MD user too. Wow your reasoning method makes sense. No intelligent mind would oppose this obvious fix unless you can somehow present an intelligent argument. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
973
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:52:00 -
[43] - Quote
Gigatron Prime wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:I fight your ideas because you are an idiot repeating an idea that's been asked for countless times, it's not hard to use the search button. Again, your only reasoning you present to me for objecting to this idea is your disdain for me which shows your ignorance. You have no say in this matter anymore. Your words mean nothing. Troll. My disdain is for you being an idiot. |
Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
57
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:54:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Friendly fire in pub matches would kill this game overnight.
If CCP wanted to commit videogame suicide, they would do this.
So yeah, no.
Friendly Fire is on in all areas for PS2, and I have got to say that the players there seem to be several hundred percent better behaved towards each other than some of the obnoxious types in DUST.
I don't believe FF would cause the problems you are thinking of. Moronic abusers would be quickly weeded out and given their marching orders (with repeated blue 'friendly fire' incidents) |
Celestias Prime
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:55:00 -
[45] - Quote
Karazantor wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Friendly fire in pub matches would kill this game overnight.
If CCP wanted to commit videogame suicide, they would do this.
So yeah, no. Friendly Fire is on in all areas for PS2, and I have got to say that the players there seem to be several hundred percent better behaved towards each other than some of the obnoxious types in DUST. I don't believe FF would cause the problems you are thinking of. Moronic abusers would be quickly weeded out and given their marching orders (with repeated blue 'friendly fire' incidents) Finally, a fellow intellectual! |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
973
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:57:00 -
[46] - Quote
Gigatron Prime wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Friendly fire in pub matches would kill this game overnight.
If CCP wanted to commit videogame suicide, they would do this.
So yeah, no. What reasoning have you to support this outlandish claim? You must be an MD user too. Wow your reasoning method makes sense. No intelligent mind would oppose this obvious fix unless you can somehow present an intelligent argument. I guess you don't know what FF also causes in free to play games, which is unlimited trolling. We already do have friendly fire but only in planetary conquest where it's deemed suitable only because PC is generally played by organised team, not a few small groups or a whole team of complete strangers who not only have no interest in cooperating, but also little disregard for the lives of their teammates. |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
126
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:59:00 -
[47] - Quote
Vermaak Doe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Friendly fire in pub matches would kill this game overnight.
If CCP wanted to commit videogame suicide, they would do this.
So yeah, no. What reasoning have you to support this outlandish claim? You must be an MD user too. Wow your reasoning method makes sense. No intelligent mind would oppose this obvious fix unless you can somehow present an intelligent argument. I guess you don't know what FF also causes in free to play games, which is unlimited trolling. We already do have friendly fire but only in planetary conquest where it's deemed suitable only because PC is generally played by organised team, not a few small groups or a whole team of complete strangers who not only have no interest in cooperating, but also little disregard for the lives of their teammates. Karazantor presented a rebuttal to your qualms. Anything else you have to say? I think the notion is defeated. FF should be implemented. |
Seraph Prime
The.Primes
8
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Posted - 2013.07.09 11:00:00 -
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Karazantor wrote:Friendly Fire is on in all areas for PS2, and I have got to say that the players there seem to be several hundred percent better behaved towards each other than some of the obnoxious types in DUST.
I don't believe FF would cause the problems you are thinking of. Moronic abusers would be quickly weeded out and given their marching orders (with repeated blue 'friendly fire' incidents)
Wonderfully put. OP knew this to be true all along. Gigatron Prime is an innovative thinker. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
973
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Posted - 2013.07.09 11:07:00 -
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Besides vehicles, there's little reason to get in a dispute over ff in PS2, since you don't pay for every loadout you use (I think?). But in Dust, accidentally shooting a teammate is likely to lead to a loss of 100s of thousands of isk because of a reason they couldn't prevent without game mechanics punishing them. And what about when it's the other players fault? Now you have someone chasing after you because they ran head first into a group of enemies while you tried to kill them. Also, making a character to troll with in ps2 is a much longer process. |
DaleGribbles
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.09 16:26:00 -
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I think something must be done before dust vanishes like a fart in the wind.
Planetside has friendly fire and it works marvelously. Adapt or die dust. |
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Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
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Posted - 2013.07.09 16:30:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:
I mean, come on, you'd have to be to ignore the obvious benefits this would bring.
Friendly fire for PC matches. Friendly fire for Merc battles only after standings, loyalty rewards, or something signifying a consequence is implemented. No FF for instant battles, its just a bad idea for a lot of reasons, and there is 0 reason to think this would fix any of the "problems" this game has.
I would like to add, that in general I prefer FF.
Karazantor wrote: Friendly Fire is on in all areas for PS2, and I have got to say that the players there seem to be several hundred percent better behaved towards each other than some of the obnoxious types in DUST.
I don't believe FF would cause the problems you are thinking of. Moronic abusers would be quickly weeded out and given their marching orders (with repeated blue 'friendly fire' incidents)
This is basically, "trust me, it'll be ok." There is very little reason to think that what doesn't happen in PS2 won't happen in Dust514. |
SnakeSix
Pradox One
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Posted - 2013.07.09 16:41:00 -
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By flipping through this constructive thread I have learned a few things:
1. People who RP as a pedo are mentally disabled
2. People who are as mentally disabled as the OP can't come up with alts that are any more obvious
How much more obvious of a troll can you be?
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DEATH KLOK
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.09 16:46:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1033684#post1033684
I think adding friendly fire to all game modes can help alot with many of the current issues facing us today.
What do you think?
AHMEN!!!! OMFG!!! if FF was on maybe all these kids wouldn't run around acting like lil TRY HARD PROS! its my honest belief the general attitude of the dust 514 player right now is **** POOR! and that's why our game is suffering. and neither CCP nor your negligent corp leaders do anything about it cuz they r too busy syphoning your ISK or ur $$$ from u while ur distracted with " WHO JUST RAN ME OVER IN THAT FREE JEEP???"
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Shadowswipe
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.09 16:51:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1033684#post1033684
I think adding friendly fire to all game modes can help alot with many of the current issues facing us today.
What do you think? No. Because then random games will be blue dots trolling and running over all blue dots while claiming, "I was trying to hit red dots, sorry you were in the way. It will only happen 15 more times this match... weeeeeeeeeeee"
Ya, just no. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.07.09 16:51:00 -
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DaleGribbles wrote:I think something must be done before dust vanishes like a fart in the wind.
Planetside has friendly fire and it works marvelously. Adapt or die dust. Ps2 doesn't have a sense of loss beyond for vehicles, meaning people have little reason to kill each other in retaliation to accidents. |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
135
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Posted - 2013.07.09 16:51:00 -
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At the very least CCP, how about you just try FF for a month. Just a MONTH and see what wonders this does for you. |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
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Posted - 2013.07.09 16:57:00 -
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Shadowswipe wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1033684#post1033684
I think adding friendly fire to all game modes can help alot with many of the current issues facing us today.
What do you think? No. Because then random games will be blue dots trolling and running over all blue dots while claiming, "I was trying to hit red dots, sorry you were in the way. It will only happen 15 more times this match... weeeeeeeeeeee" Ya, just no. Auto kick after a certain amount of team deaths with a possible reque penalty as well.
There. Solved your problem. |
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