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THE-BEAST
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:00:00 -
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Since the triple SP was postponed a day do we get an extra day?
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:06:00 -
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THE-BEAST wrote:Since the triple SP was postponed a day do we get an extra day?
you can find info about this in the dev blogs or by using the search function. yet I am sure some helpful little know it all will be along soon to hold your hand |
THE-BEAST
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:12:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:THE-BEAST wrote:Since the triple SP was postponed a day do we get an extra day?
you can find info about this in the dev blogs or by using the search function. yet I am sure some helpful little know it all will be along soon to hold your hand
Thanks smart a$s if your so smart do the search and show me where it is, but I already did the search and couldn't find the announcement that said they are extending the event by one day. Allowing those that capped an extra 500+ if they grind it out wed. |
Raist Soulforge
the troll hord
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:15:00 -
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seem to recall they said the event ends with the usual SP cap reset. |
THE-BEAST
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:17:00 -
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Raist Soulforge wrote:seem to recall they said the event ends with the usual SP cap reset.
A couple people in game told me they extended it one day since it was shorted by a day. Just trying to find the truth. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
505
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:19:00 -
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THE-BEAST wrote:Raist Soulforge wrote:seem to recall they said the event ends with the usual SP cap reset. A couple people in game told me they extended it one day since it was shorted by a day. Just trying to find the truth. you people are smart, real smart.
When did it start? add one week. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
2354
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:21:00 -
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THE-BEAST wrote:Raist Soulforge wrote:seem to recall they said the event ends with the usual SP cap reset. A couple people in game told me they extended it one day since it was shorted by a day. Just trying to find the truth. The bonus SP was added after the following day's downitme. |
THE-BEAST
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:23:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:THE-BEAST wrote:Raist Soulforge wrote:seem to recall they said the event ends with the usual SP cap reset. A couple people in game told me they extended it one day since it was shorted by a day. Just trying to find the truth. The bonus SP was added after the following day's downitme.
So logic says yes it goes through Wednesday and ends downtime Thursday correct?
What are you guys ccp don't want to give straight answers? |
Raist Soulforge
the troll hord
7
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:30:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1014512#post1014512
CCP Frame wrote:Dear players, On Thursday, July 4th we deployed the Triple Skill Point event to Tranquility. After the deployment we discovered the script that was supposed to increase your Skill Point cap was not working as intended, increasing only the amount of skill points remaining to the original, 190.400 cap. This made players that already capped their skill points by playing from Wednesday to Thursday receive no skill point cap increase after the downtime on Thursday. Because of this error, we will be deploying a new Triple SP script today (5th of July), to reset everyoneGÇÖs weekly Skill Point cap and increase it to its intended triple value GÇô 571.200 for the duration of this event. DUST 514 will go offline for an extended period of time today and is expected to come back online at 12:00 GMT. We apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused on the first day of the event, and we hope that you will enjoy the remainder of this event. -DUST 514 Community team
Note the second paragraph there:
Quote:Because of this error, we will be deploying a new Triple SP script today (5th of July), to reset everyoneGÇÖs weekly Skill Point cap and increase it to its intended triple value GÇô 571.200 for the duration of this event.
The duration of the event part implies they are following the original schedule, which had it ending with the normal SP reset on Wednesdays. The only people that actually would have been "hurt" by this oversight would be those that capped out under the normal ~190k cap before they adjusted it, and continued playing after that and received only the SP based on their WP results (unless, perhaps they had mroe time to actually play, but wtopped because they hit their cap, then they missed some opportunity according to how long that may have been).
Just saying, I doubt they would be extending it an extra day becase a small percentage may have been left out for less then a days worth of play time (in most cases, I would hazard a guess it was considerably less then 24 hours). That would be grossly imbalanced even more...as it would give the die hards an extra 24 hour period to potentially max out an additional 571k SP that otherwise would not be availble to those who couldn't be on all day Wednesday to exploit it. Funny how the wheel goes 'round sometimes, eh? |
THE-BEAST
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:35:00 -
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Raist Soulforge wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1014512#post1014512CCP Frame wrote:Dear players, On Thursday, July 4th we deployed the Triple Skill Point event to Tranquility. After the deployment we discovered the script that was supposed to increase your Skill Point cap was not working as intended, increasing only the amount of skill points remaining to the original, 190.400 cap. This made players that already capped their skill points by playing from Wednesday to Thursday receive no skill point cap increase after the downtime on Thursday. Because of this error, we will be deploying a new Triple SP script today (5th of July), to reset everyoneGÇÖs weekly Skill Point cap and increase it to its intended triple value GÇô 571.200 for the duration of this event. DUST 514 will go offline for an extended period of time today and is expected to come back online at 12:00 GMT. We apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused on the first day of the event, and we hope that you will enjoy the remainder of this event. -DUST 514 Community team Note the second paragraph there: Quote:Because of this error, we will be deploying a new Triple SP script today (5th of July), to reset everyoneGÇÖs weekly Skill Point cap and increase it to its intended triple value GÇô 571.200 for the duration of this event. The duration of the event part implies they are following the original schedule, which had it ending with the normal SP reset on Wednesdays. The only people that actually would have been "hurt" by this oversight would be those that capped out under the normal ~190k cap before they adjusted it, and continued playing after that and received only the SP based on their WP results (unless, perhaps they had mroe time to actually play, but wtopped because they hit their cap, then they missed some opportunity according to how long that may have been). Just saying, I doubt they would be extending it an extra day becase a small percentage may have been left out for less then a days worth of play time (in most cases, I would hazard a guess it was considerably less then 24 hours). That would be grossly imbalanced even more...as it would give the die hards an extra 24 hour period to potentially max out an additional 571k SP that otherwise would not be availble to those who couldn't be on all day Wednesday to exploit it. Funny how the wheel goes 'round sometimes, eh?
Thank you |
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Raist Soulforge
the troll hord
7
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:36:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:THE-BEAST wrote:Raist Soulforge wrote:seem to recall they said the event ends with the usual SP cap reset. A couple people in game told me they extended it one day since it was shorted by a day. Just trying to find the truth. you people are smart, real smart. When did it start? add one week.
Nope... was never intended to run a full week. It was scheduled to run 6 days, started on Thursday's downtime, not Wednesday, and was scheduled to end with the following Wednesday's downtime.
According to their announcement about catching the exceptions (those who played Wednesday and/or capped out by sometime Thursday under the original 190k), and how they were making adjustments to compensate with Friday morning's downtime--they were sticking to the original schedule of ending it with Wednesday's downtime. |
THE-BEAST
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:38:00 -
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Raist Soulforge wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:THE-BEAST wrote:Raist Soulforge wrote:seem to recall they said the event ends with the usual SP cap reset. A couple people in game told me they extended it one day since it was shorted by a day. Just trying to find the truth. you people are smart, real smart. When did it start? add one week. Nope... was never intended to run a full week. It was scheduled to run 6 days, started on Thursday's downtime, not Wednesday, and was scheduled to end with the following Wednesday's downtime. According to their announcement about catching the exceptions (those who played Wednesday and/or capped out by sometime Thursday under the original 190k), and how they were making adjustments to compensate with Friday morning's downtime--they were sticking to the original schedule of ending it with Wednesday's downtime.
Yea! what he said darken-sol. Not so smart now..huh? |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
505
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:42:00 -
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THE-BEAST wrote:Raist Soulforge wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:THE-BEAST wrote:Raist Soulforge wrote:seem to recall they said the event ends with the usual SP cap reset. A couple people in game told me they extended it one day since it was shorted by a day. Just trying to find the truth. you people are smart, real smart. When did it start? add one week. Nope... was never intended to run a full week. It was scheduled to run 6 days, started on Thursday's downtime, not Wednesday, and was scheduled to end with the following Wednesday's downtime. According to their announcement about catching the exceptions (those who played Wednesday and/or capped out by sometime Thursday under the original 190k), and how they were making adjustments to compensate with Friday morning's downtime--they were sticking to the original schedule of ending it with Wednesday's downtime. Yea! what he said darken-sol. Not so smart now..huh?
link? otherwise we will see.
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
505
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:44:00 -
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I am also going off of the last 3x sp event. I double capped that one too |
Raist Soulforge
the troll hord
11
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:48:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:[quote=THE-BEASTlink? otherwise we will see.
Was provided several posts ago...post #9. A subsection was even requoted in that post, with a section bolded for emphasis.
In case you still don't see it, here it is again:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1014512#post1014512
If you're asking for a quote on the original schedule for the event, that post has a link to the thread where the schedule was revealed and the event was discussed and reclarified exhaustively. |
Provolonee
Undefined Risk DARKSTAR ARMY
51
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:52:00 -
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The last event ended end of day wed. It was a 1 day shot at extra sp. Take that for what it is. |
Raist Soulforge
the troll hord
11
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:52:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:I am also going off of the last 3x sp event. I double capped that one too
It was discussed at length in the thread linked within that posting, and it was clarified by the DEV's that this in fact was scheduled to end with Wednesday's normal reset. They even gave their reason for not starting it on a Wednesday reset. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
505
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:53:00 -
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had to jump around a bit but still see no reason this wont go until downtime. you should read it again |
Raist Soulforge
the troll hord
11
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Posted - 2013.07.09 02:06:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:had to jump around a bit but still see no reason this wont go until downtime. you should read it again
As stated earlier, it could be potentially even more imbalanced.
Do the math.
If someone was able to fully cap 190,400 in one day....what makes you think they couldn't recap thier 571,200 from Friday to Wednesday, and then do it again the following Wednesday?
I mean, after all, they did it on July 3rd (190,400 X 3 = 517,200). Why couldn't they do that again on July 10th?
Now, compare that to everyone else who couldn't cap out in one day.
This also plays with those who have more than just a couple hours available on Wednesdays. If they could knock out a substantial amount, say....100k, vs players that might only get 50k--then they are shortchanged. Compare the numbers:
100k x 3=300k, they have 90k left after next downtime and 3x is cut off (190k-100k). That's a total of 390k for that week.
50k x 3-150k, they have 140k left until next downtime (190k-50k). That's a total of 290k
So... no matter how you slice it, it's still unbalanced.
Have to remember their intent was to give everyone a shot at earning 571,200 SP within the duration of one normal SP cap.
Have they not met this goal (and even exceeded that, might I add)?
They've delivered what was promised. Those that were able to exploit the situation and got more, should be thankful they've gotten to keep it. Another game I've played was notroious for taking away anything gained due to an exploit, including banning people for taking advantage of it. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
505
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Posted - 2013.07.09 02:12:00 -
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Raist Soulforge wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:had to jump around a bit but still see no reason this wont go until downtime. you should read it again As stated earlier, it could be potentially even more imbalanced. Do the math. If someone was able to fully cap 190,400 in one day....what makes you think they couldn't recap thier 571,200 from Friday to Wednesday, and then do it again the following Wednesday? I mean, after all, they did it on July 3rd (190,400 X 3 = 571,200). Why couldn't they do that again on July 10th? Now, compare that to everyone else who couldn't cap out in one day. This also plays with those who have more than just a couple hours available on Wednesdays. If they could knock out a substantial amount, say....100k, vs players that might only get 50k--then they are shortchanged. Compare the numbers: 100k x 3=300k, they have 90k left after next downtime and 3x is cut off (190k-100k). That's a total of 390k for that week. 50k x 3-150k, they have 140k left until next downtime (190k-50k). That's a total of 290k So... no matter how you slice it, it's still unbalanced. Have to remember their intent was to give everyone a shot at earning 571,200 SP within the duration of one normal SP cap. Have they not met this goal (and even exceeded that, might I add)? They've delivered what was promised. Those that were able to exploit the situation and got more, should be thankful they've gotten to keep it. Another game I've played was notroious for taking away anything gained due to an exploit, including banning people for taking advantage of it. like i said we will see. i have seen no info contrary to the last event like this and everyone who payed attention scored big. these mistakes have to be engineered. A gaming company can not drop the ball everytime they deploy something and still have fans. I wont cry if i dont get the cap again but i see no reason why i wont. to bad grandma has to die a second time. hope my boss isnt a super slueth like you |
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Raist Soulforge
the troll hord
12
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Posted - 2013.07.09 02:25:00 -
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why should they feel compelled to extend it an extra day? It's a holiday weekend, and there was still 5 full days of playtime until it would terminate.
Are you really thinking CCP is afraid people would feel disenfranchised because they couldn't cap out their SP in 5 days versus the originally planned 6 day window? Especially when it's stamped all over nearly every guide/forum to this game to start a 7-day booster on a Saturday so you can cap out before Wednesday reset and then cap out again before the booster wears off so you get 2 caps worth at 1.5x the normal rate?
Really?
/facepalm
They have provided what was planned. Sufficient opportunity to earn 571, 200 SP from Wednesday to Wednesday. No matter how it happened, (capping out Wednesday or Thursday, then again after the reset Friday, or just once after the Friday reset)---everyone has had an opportunity to get the promised shot at 571,200SP.
Now, those that were able to benefit from the slip up and get as much as 2x that (capping once, then hit it again after Friday's reset)---not sure I'd be mouthing off about it, in case big brother decides to take action against you for exploiting the glitch. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
506
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Posted - 2013.07.09 02:38:00 -
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Raist Soulforge wrote:why should they feel compelled to extend it an extra day? It's a holiday weekend, and there was still 5 full days of playtime until it would terminate.
Are you really thinking CCP is afraid people would feel disenfranchised because they couldn't cap out their SP in 5 days versus the originally planned 6 day window? Especially when it's stamped all over nearly every guide/forum to this game to start a 7-day booster on a Saturday so you can cap out before Wednesday reset and then cap out again before the booster wears off so you get 2 caps worth at 1.5x the normal rate?
Really?
/facepalm
They have provided what was planned. Sufficient opportunity to earn 571, 200 SP from Wednesday to Wednesday. No matter how it happened, (capping out Wednesday or Thursday, then again after the reset Friday, or just once after the Friday reset)---everyone has had an opportunity to get the promised shot at 571,200SP.
Now, those that were able to benefit from the slip up and get as much as 2x that (capping once, then hit it again after Friday's reset)---not sure I'd be mouthing off about it, in case big brother decides to take action against you for exploiting the glitch.
I told you to use the search function and some know it all would be along to help. i didnt realise i'd be trolled into being that guy. do what you want, i couldnt care less. believe what you want, you will regardless of the information available.
im sticking with subjective experience and intuition. This has payed off in the past. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2192
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Posted - 2013.07.09 02:50:00 -
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Provolonee wrote:The last event ended end of day wed. It was a 1 day shot at extra sp. Take that for what it is. last time it said it would end on thursday, it ended thursday morning, so this event will end wednesday because that's when it said it would end.
So no, no Thursday
edit: technically last time they said "through" thursday, but yeah, point still stands. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
506
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Posted - 2013.07.09 02:59:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Provolonee wrote:The last event ended end of day wed. It was a 1 day shot at extra sp. Take that for what it is. last time it said it would end on thursday, it ended thursday morning, so this event will end wednesday because that's when it said it would end. So no, no Thursday edit: technically last time they said "through" thursday, but yeah, point still stands.
long live sloth who survived the ban hammer. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
506
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Posted - 2013.07.09 03:08:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Provolonee wrote:The last event ended end of day wed. It was a 1 day shot at extra sp. Take that for what it is. last time it said it would end on thursday, it ended thursday morning, so this event will end wednesday because that's when it said it would end. So no, no Thursday edit: technically last time they said "through" thursday, but yeah, point still stands. long live sloth who survived the ban hammer.
would you like to know how? |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
506
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Posted - 2013.07.09 03:14:00 -
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hey sloth u got a link? sloth, sloth, SLOTH |
Raist Soulforge
the troll hord
12
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Posted - 2013.07.09 03:22:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote: I told you to use the search function and some know it all would be along to help. i didnt realise i'd be trolled into being that guy. do what you want, i couldnt care less. believe what you want, you will regardless of the information available.
im sticking with subjective experience and intuition. This has payed off in the past.
Guessing your basing it in part on the 8 day event they held, which was announced to run Wednesday to Thursday (4/24 to 5/2)...they planned it to happen that way.
This one was specifically set up to run from Thursday to Wednesday. From the Dev Blog:
Quote:Triple SP Event
Starting on July 4 and ending on July 10, we will be hosting a Triple Skill Point Event for all players who log in to play. During the event period your skill point cap will be tripled and your skill booster bonuses are stacked with the triple skill point reward. DonGÇÖt miss out on this great opportunity to earn extra skill points and get that level 5 skill that youGÇÖve been training for.
Here's some details on the Triple SP event that you will want to know:
GÇóThe weekly SP cap will reset on Wednesday, July 3rd as usual after DT. If you hit your weekly in the first day then you will still be eligible for the extended SP cap for the event on Thursday. GÇóThe passive SP gain and caps are not part of the triple SP event, so they will work normally. GÇóYour extra SP earned from skill boosters do not count towards your weekly SP cap.
Unfortunately, the implementation was bugged when loaded out on Thursday, July 4th. However, they were made aware of it and they took action on the problem and had a fix within 24 hours of capturing the exception.
I find it odd that you continue to hope for an extra day this time around, in light of all the evidence pointing to the contrary. In one thread where the bug was reported, discussed, and ultimately lead to quick reaction, a DEV even said this: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1011729#post1011729
Quote:We'll resolve everyone with a bugged cap so you'll be able to hit the full cap by the end of the event. We're aiming to have a fixed deployed tomorrow during downtime so you'll get up to the full 570k-ish SP cap.
By the way... you posted in that thread...granted, it was several pages down the line. Guess you weren't paying much attention to the DEV posts in it, or you might have picked up on it too.
So, again....they have delivered on what was promised, and should be no need to extend the event further. If by chance, it is still active after the Wednesday reset, than that would appear to be a glitch. As it stands right now, there shouldn't be a reason to have it go longer than originally intended without it being an oversight or glitch in the scripting. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
506
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Posted - 2013.07.09 03:28:00 -
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I'm done with you. I'm talking to sloth now. i would like his help finding something |
Raist Soulforge
the troll hord
12
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Posted - 2013.07.09 03:30:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:I'm done with you. I'm talking to sloth now. i would like his help finding something
Sorry.. just delivering what was asked, just took a while to gather the information, but it wasn't all that hard to find. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
506
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Posted - 2013.07.09 03:36:00 -
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Raist Soulforge wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:I'm done with you. I'm talking to sloth now. i would like his help finding something Sorry.. just delivering what was asked, just took a while to gather the information, but it wasn't all that hard to find.
dont be sorry. each argument has been layed out. we will have to wait and see. if i am wrong so be it. i still have confidence things will go my way.
sloth you cant even say hi? |
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Krythor Motrec
Queen ind.
30
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Posted - 2013.07.09 03:37:00 -
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with CCP assume it is over after tommorrow. ALways think worse case scenario and work towards that. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
706
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Posted - 2013.07.09 04:19:00 -
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Hey im down... lets have this event extended into thursday. Really could use another 900k SP... |
Eriknaught
Vader's Taco Shack
20
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Posted - 2013.07.09 04:29:00 -
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So, worst case scenario Wednesday turns out to be a regular Wednesday. Best case scenario we get a possible 500kish SP cap (without boosters of course...) Sounds win-win to me. That is all. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
506
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Posted - 2013.07.09 04:43:00 -
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Eriknaught wrote:So, worst case scenario Wednesday turns out to be a regular Wednesday. Best case scenario we get a possible 500kish SP cap (without boosters of course...) Sounds win-win to me. That is all. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION.
yep. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2193
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Posted - 2013.07.09 04:55:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Raist Soulforge wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:I'm done with you. I'm talking to sloth now. i would like his help finding something Sorry.. just delivering what was asked, just took a while to gather the information, but it wasn't all that hard to find. dont be sorry. each argument has been layed out. we will have to wait and see. if i am wrong so be it. i still have confidence things will go my way. sloth you cant even say hi? Hi |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
507
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Posted - 2013.07.09 05:01:00 -
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hi |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2193
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Posted - 2013.07.09 05:03:00 -
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Sup? |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
507
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Posted - 2013.07.09 05:07:00 -
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that whole thread is elsewhere on the net. |
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