DUST Search - [Feedback] Forge guns are still broken OP

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

''Been a while now. When will you fix forge guns. Yes vehicles need a counter but not something that strong with that range and that short fire time and that can also be use to snipe infantry,''
-IT takes for you to use HEAVY that is already a huge disadvantage and a huge Mobility impairment ..
-It takes careful aiming, since they dont even have an AIM function.
-They Have a Bluish glow that covers the whole center of the screen making it difficult to aim at long distances, even more infantry
-S*it.If a forge-gunner kills me with it, GG to him, cuz it aint easy using that thing, much less Full long range or Full Close quarters. And at Mid range you would have to deal with AR's....

''I mean really. You spawn with an AV weapon... no vehicles spawn.. who cares its an awesome sniper or a splash killer. Too many strengths too few weaknesses. dial it back. ''
-It might be, but it has reduced ammo (and heavies cant carry ammo)
-Huge CPU/PG consumption
-Highly expensive ISK
-ITS A HEAVY WEAPON, is supposed to e stronger than Light ones.

Take Manus peak. Stand in the middle and DOMINATE the whole map. It's so OP it makes me wonder if you ever tested it.
-TAke MANUS PEAK, if it wasnt for Forge-gunners it would be TAnks vs Tanks every single time....And when we DONT have forge gunners, it IS SWARMED with tanks since very few people have PROTO SWARM LAUNCHERS with proficiency 5 to scare them off....

As a scout i say: Thanks you Forge gunners. F*ck Vehicles.

All you vehicle users what you want is to have an immortal tank / LAV to just rampage with no deaths,well, NO.
If an AV grenade kills you , you whine.
Swam launcher kills you: ''It takes no skill, its homing QQ....''
If a Forge gun takes you out, well ^^^^

Forgeguns have LOTS of downsides, you are just unlucky to have stumbled upon GOOD forge-gunners.

DEAL WITH IT Bear

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Judge Rhadamanthus Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 222	Posted - 2013.07.08 23:31:00 - [1] - Quote Been a while now. When will you fix forge guns. Yes vehicles need a counter but not something that strong with that range and that short fire time and that can also be use to snipe infantry, I mean really. You spawn with an AV weapon... no vehicles spawn.. who cares its an awesome sniper or a splash killer. Too many strengths too few weaknesses. dial it back. Take Manus peak. Stand in the middle and DOMINATE the whole map. It's so OP it makes me wonder if you ever tested it.
Arcturis Vanguard Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 38	Posted - 2013.07.08 23:32:00 - [2] - Quote Absolutely not. Go away and leave the forge alone.
Judge Rhadamanthus Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 222	Posted - 2013.07.08 23:34:00 - [3] - Quote It's bust. we know it. sort it.
Wojciak Soldiers Of One Network Orion Empire 51	Posted - 2013.07.09 00:25:00 - [4] - Quote there should be a max and min angle that it can be fired at, like +/-45 from horizontal, anything other that that would start to damage or outright destroy the gun or person using it.
castba Penguin's March 21	Posted - 2013.07.09 02:24:00 - [5] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Take Manus peak. Stand in the middle and DOMINATE the whole map. It's so OP it makes me wonder if you ever tested it. Vid or it didn't happen. forge is fine. Big power but plenty of drawbacks. Only three guns need to be changed. AR - still too good at everything Flaylock - splash is too high for a sidearm with such a high fire rate and fast reload Laser Rifle - needs a useful sight and a little more damage. Oh, and maybe a faster moving projectile for the plasma cannon.
Funkmaster Whale 0uter.Heaven 51	Posted - 2013.07.09 02:38:00 - [6] - Quote castba wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Take Manus peak. Stand in the middle and DOMINATE the whole map. It's so OP it makes me wonder if you ever tested it. Vid or it didn't happen. forge is fine. Big power but plenty of drawbacks. Only three guns need to be changed. AR - still too good at everything Flaylock - splash is too high for a sidearm with such a high fire rate and fast reload Laser Rifle - needs a useful sight and a little more damage. Oh, and maybe a faster moving projectile for the plasma cannon. The AR is still too good at everything? What? The AR is great for killing infantry which is exactly what it's supposed to do. I don't recall tank or dropship pilots complaining about them damn ARs one-shotting them.
KING CHECKMATE A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 312	Posted - 2013.07.09 02:46:00 - [7] - Quote ''Been a while now. When will you fix forge guns. Yes vehicles need a counter but not something that strong with that range and that short fire time and that can also be use to snipe infantry,'' -IT takes for you to use HEAVY that is already a huge disadvantage and a huge Mobility impairment .. -It takes careful aiming, since they dont even have an AIM function. -They Have a Bluish glow that covers the whole center of the screen making it difficult to aim at long distances, even more infantry -Sit.If a forge-gunner kills me with it, GG to him, cuz it aint easy using that thing, much less Full long range or Full Close quarters. And at Mid range you would have to deal with AR's.... ''I mean really. You spawn with an AV weapon... no vehicles spawn.. who cares its an awesome sniper or a splash killer. Too many strengths too few weaknesses. dial it back. ''* -It might be, but it has reduced ammo (and heavies cant carry ammo) -Huge CPU/PG consumption -Highly expensive ISK -ITS A HEAVY WEAPON, is supposed to e stronger than Light ones. Take Manus peak. Stand in the middle and DOMINATE the whole map. It's so OP it makes me wonder if you ever tested it. -TAke MANUS PEAK, if it wasnt for Forge-gunners it would be TAnks vs Tanks every single time....And when we DONT have forge gunners, it IS SWARMED with tanks since very few people have PROTO SWARM LAUNCHERS with proficiency 5 to scare them off.... As a scout i say: *Thanks you Forge gunners. Fck Vehicles.** All you vehicle users what you want is to have an immortal tank / LAV to just rampage with no deaths,well, NO. If an AV grenade kills you , you whine. Swam launcher kills you: ''It takes no skill, its homing QQ....'' If a Forge gun takes you out, well ^^^^ Forgeguns have LOTS of downsides, you are just unlucky to have stumbled upon GOOD forge-gunners. DEAL WITH IT
Captain Wontubulous Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 19	Posted - 2013.07.09 02:46:00 - [8] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Been a while now. When will you fix forge guns. Yes vehicles need a counter but not something that strong with that range and that short fire time and that can also be use to snipe infantry, I mean really. You spawn with an AV weapon... no vehicles spawn.. who cares its an awesome sniper or a splash killer. Too many strengths too few weaknesses. dial it back. Take Manus peak. Stand in the middle and DOMINATE the whole map. It's so OP it makes me wonder if you ever tested it. I need you to get a screenshot of you using the forge gun. Show us your KD and then let us know how OP you think it is.
Shijima Kuraimaru WarRavens League of Infamy 238	Posted - 2013.07.09 02:54:00 - [9] - Quote Forge gunners have no zoomed aim. Forge gunners have on center dot to show where their projectile will most likely hit before dispersion (Yes the Forge had a little dispersion). Forge gunners have to contend with screen shake. Forge gunners have to contend with travel time. Forge gunners contend with being slowed down while charging/holding a charge (Immobilized if using a breach). Forge gunners have to contend with having a very limited amount of ammunition. Forge gunners have to contend with being able to be killed by everything on the field, except swarms. Forge gunners are heavies, so they are slow and large making them easy targets. How many mercs can be killed with the AR before the wielder runs completely out of ammo and has to go resupply? I'm sure it's more than seven or eight. Ten if it's a lucky Forge gunner ignoring drop ships, HAVs, redline rail snipers, installations, etc. When we just wanted more ammo and reasonable travel time and range for a projectile that's supposed to excede, as per the weapon description, 7000 meters/7 kilometers/4.35 miles per second, much of the non forge community said HTFU and get good. Well now that several of us have hardened the f**k up and have gotten good, those same people are now QQing that the forge is OP and the Forge gunner is godlike. I guess it your turn to HTFU.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1129	Posted - 2013.07.09 03:20:00 - [10] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Yes vehicles need a counter but not something that strong with that range and that short fire time and that can also be use to snipe infantry, Why is this a big deal? The forge gun being used as a heavy sniper rifle is fine by me.

KING CHECKMATE A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 314	Posted - 2013.07.09 03:25:00 - [11] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Yes vehicles need a counter but not something that strong with that range and that short fire time and that can also be use to snipe infantry, Why is this a big deal? The forge gun being used as a heavy sniper rifle is fine by me. Plus its hard to do. I mean i get killed by a scout ONCE every what...20+ games? That does NOT make the FG a problem in my opinion....
Lynn Beck Tank Bros. DARKSTAR ARMY 70	Posted - 2013.07.09 04:11:00 - [12] - Quote Funkmaster Whale wrote: castba wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Take Manus peak. Stand in the middle and DOMINATE the whole map. It's so OP it makes me wonder if you ever tested it. Vid or it didn't happen. forge is fine. Big power but plenty of drawbacks. Only three guns need to be changed. AR - still too good at everything Flaylock - splash is too high for a sidearm with such a high fire rate and fast reload Laser Rifle - needs a useful sight and a little more damage. Oh, and maybe a faster moving projectile for the plasma cannon. The AR is still too good at everything? What? The AR is great for killing infantry which is exactly what it's supposed to do. I don't recall tank or dropship pilots complaining about them damn ARs one-shotting them. About the only thing ars can't do, they still outrange scramblers
Kador Ouryon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 88	Posted - 2013.07.09 04:12:00 - [13] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Been a while now. When will you fix forge guns. Yes vehicles need a counter but not something that strong with that range and that short fire time and that can also be use to snipe infantry, I mean really. You spawn with an AV weapon... no vehicles spawn.. who cares its an awesome sniper or a splash killer. Too many strengths too few weaknesses. dial it back. Take Manus peak. Stand in the middle and DOMINATE the whole map. It's so OP it makes me wonder if you ever tested it. Lol I wouldn't mind if the forge gun was single shot that would be epic!
GET ATMESON NEW AGE EMPIRE The Family Syndicate 41	Posted - 2013.07.09 04:24:00 - [14] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ''Been a while now. When will you fix forge guns. Yes vehicles need a counter but not something that strong with that range and that short fire time and that can also be use to snipe infantry,'' -IT takes for you to use HEAVY that is already a huge disadvantage and a huge Mobility impairment .. -It takes careful aiming, since they dont even have an AIM function. -They Have a Bluish glow that covers the whole center of the screen making it difficult to aim at long distances, even more infantry -Sit.If a forge-gunner kills me with it, GG to him, cuz it aint easy using that thing, much less Full long range or Full Close quarters. And at Mid range you would have to deal with AR's.... ''I mean really. You spawn with an AV weapon... no vehicles spawn.. who cares its an awesome sniper or a splash killer. Too many strengths too few weaknesses. dial it back. ''* -It might be, but it has reduced ammo (and heavies cant carry ammo) -Huge CPU/PG consumption -Highly expensive ISK -ITS A HEAVY WEAPON, is supposed to e stronger than Light ones. Take Manus peak. Stand in the middle and DOMINATE the whole map. It's so OP it makes me wonder if you ever tested it. -TAke MANUS PEAK, if it wasnt for Forge-gunners it would be TAnks vs Tanks every single time....And when we DONT have forge gunners, it IS SWARMED with tanks since very few people have PROTO SWARM LAUNCHERS with proficiency 5 to scare them off.... As a scout i say: *Thanks you Forge gunners. Fck Vehicles.** All you vehicle users what you want is to have an immortal tank / LAV to just rampage with no deaths,well, NO. If an AV grenade kills you , you whine. Swam launcher kills you: ''It takes no skill, its homing QQ....'' If a Forge gun takes you out, well ^^^^ Forgeguns have LOTS of downsides, you are just unlucky to have stumbled upon GOOD forge-gunners. DEAL WITH IT Nicely said. +1 hits all the right spots
noobsniper the 2nd The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 22	Posted - 2013.07.09 05:44:00 - [15] - Quote he's just mad because i forge sniped his fancy enforcer tank or just him in general so what if we can ******* aim deal with it stop being butt hurt about a gun that has massive draw backs try using it tell us how you do guarantee you will be awful with it takes skill to hit ppl even harder at close range i find so yeah stop QQING and stfu
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Top Men. 1020	Posted - 2013.07.09 09:40:00 - [16] - Quote posting in another thread by a pissed off tanker who got his ass blown off. Leaving without even so much as a chuckle. This thread's Butthurt-o-meter rating: Bored now \|\|===========================================X=================\|\| PL losing a Revenant Supercap We can do better
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 264	Posted - 2013.07.09 11:35:00 - [17] - Quote I've tried forgeguns, they are very effective in the right hands, especially the assault version, but you have to have a great timing with it because when it's fully charged it shoots. Swarm launcher are the real noob tube in this game, they require no skill it's only fire and forget. AV nades should loose their homing ability.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 376	Posted - 2013.07.10 09:02:00 - [18] - Quote im a tanker and i dont mind the forge gun. i just want adv and proto tanks....or cheaper tanks (50% cheaper).
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 134	Posted - 2013.07.10 09:05:00 - [19] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: im a tanker and i dont mind the forge gun. i just want adv and proto tanks....or cheaper tanks (50% cheaper). Makes sense. If they won't give us PROTO, then lower the damn price.
Void Echo Internal Error. League of Infamy 452	Posted - 2013.07.10 09:24:00 - [20] - Quote forge guns are a ***** to deal with, but its only 1 thing out of the 100+ items that infantry can use against us. so whatever, imho the av grenade are the real op av weapon out there, they do too much damage for being a tiny grenade, yes they are designed to kill vehicles, but im pretty sure that they aren't meant to 2 shot a tank.



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